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Am I the only one that feels really really bad for Jane?
2 November 2019
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I apologize if any of this sounds petty...but am I the only one that feels very bad for Jane Asher? She's no tragic figure and got over the whole thing in like two seconds (and I'm aware about her seeing some guy in the Bristol Old Vic thing), but the stuff I've been reading in books and elsewhere: she's was kicked at, hair yanked and threatened by jealous fans, having to be at odds with Paul and his friend's drug use, finds him in bed with somebody else and breaks up, she loses her father to suicide a year later, and if this is correct based on some anecdotes I've seen, Linda had something against her despite the two literally having never interacted in any shape or form at all. Like what...sorry but damn.

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Huh, I'd not heard about a lot of that. That's pretty bad, but I feel like Jane is a trooper and doesn't need any pity from anyone. Interesting nonetheless.

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2 November 2019
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Jane is a classy woman......A big part of the story and Paul's muse for years.......We owe a lot of songs in part to her....

I've related elsewhere my most tenuous of connections with her.......

 

She's never spoken about any of it.......Class!

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4 November 2019
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Yeah, the fact that she's never given in to anybody about what happened is very impressive and I admire her a lot. She is a very strong woman! But I just can't help but think that, especially that Linda thing, if true, is still kind of pathetic...there was an article I saw on the Daily Mail (which I'm aware is a notorious tabloid, that's why I say if true) Linda had talked a bit of trash about Jane to this one man, and he used Jane's party cake cookbook to jolt Linda into being more uplifting when she was down or something. If this is to be believed, that's just a petty cheap shot, especially when Jane has never spoken of her relationship with Paul ever and did nothing to Linda especially. If I had a wife I certainly wouldn't be talking smack about an ex-boyfriend she had, whom I would have never seen or did nothing to me, decades ago...

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Give that Jane's family gave Paul a home for 3 years, I hope he at least appreciates that.

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6 November 2019
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JW OBoogie said
Give that Jane's family gave Paul a home for 3 years, I hope he at least appreciates that.

  

From what I'm aware of Paul hasn't said anything negative about Jane (in public or in print) especially after Linda passed, so maybe he does. One thing I would also like to point out would be a French news clipping that I found on here: https://janeasherdaily.tumblr......ey-and-her

If the French-English translation is correct, it's Jane speaking of Paul a little while after they'd broken up. She said that now having split from Paul, she could finally seriously indulge in theatre and be taken more seriously herself.

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While I won't say I totally disagree with your view, @ognirrrats69, for those Beatle women to feel bad for, she would come a long way behind Cynthia and Maureen, and a little bit behind Patti (in that order).

Aside from the Bristol Old Vic relationship, there are also rumours of infidelity when she toured a play in America, so neither her and Paul were that faithful to each other.

As to being mishandled by jealous Beatles fans, nothing compared to what Cynthia and Maureen experienced in Liverpool before the security came into place as their success grew.

As to her having a big problem with Paul's drug use, I don't see it. She came from quite a liberal lower upper class family where drugs were discussed, an example being Jane's father explaining to Paul how to use the Benzedrine found in nasal inhalers (though he already knew), as revealed in the Barry Miles/Paul McCartney book, Many Years from Now:

Dr Asher loved to shock his family. Once, when Paul had a bad cold, Dr Asher wrote him a prescription for a nasal inhaler and showed him how to use it. "You take off the top and place it on your little finger, like so." He demonstrated. "Then you take a sniff with each nostril as per normal; then, after you’ve finished with it, you can unscrew the bottom and eat the Benzedrine." Peter shuffled his feet nervously and Paul grinned, not knowing how much he could confide in the good doctor. Paul: "We learned about that stuff up in Liverpool but hearing it coming from him was quite strange."

And Jane, as recently as 2010, was calling for drug legalisation:

They should be legalised, the lot of them, as far as I'm concerned. That's the only hope.

There are so many 'legal' highs out there just now, which are incredibly dangerous because they haven't been tested, and yet they are readily available to buy over the internet. Some of the ones we do know about are illegal. It's a mad situation – we're chasing after something we can never catch up with.

Anyone who pretends that the policies on drugs have worked is talking nonsense.

As to catching Paul in bed with Francie Schwartz leading to their break-up, there is another version of that story which says it happened after their split and she'd come to Cavendish Avenue to collect some of her belongings. Whichever way round, it certainly wasn't as brutal as Cynthia discovering John in bed with Yoko.
 
New partners are often critical of former significant partners, though I'm unaware of any major criticism from Linda of Jane, unlike the problems Cynthia faced with Yoko.
 
I think Paul treated Jane badly but, compared to what happened to other women involved with the four of them, I also think she got off lightly.
 
 

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ognirrrats69 said
I apologize if any of this sounds petty...but am I the only one that feels very bad for Jane Asher? She's no tragic figure and got over the whole thing in like two seconds (and I'm aware about her seeing some guy in the Bristol Old Vic thing), but the stuff I've been reading in books and elsewhere: she's was kicked at, hair yanked and threatened by jealous fans, having to be at odds with Paul and his friend's drug use, finds him in bed with somebody else and breaks up, she loses her father to suicide a year later, and if this is correct based on some anecdotes I've seen, Linda had something against her despite the two literally having never interacted in any shape or form at all. Like what...sorry but damn.

  

You are not petty at all. Unfortunately, some people tend to dismiss Jane's part in Paul's life, which is a great mistake. Trust me on this. Myself and someone else are going through Paul's songs about Jane for the past 50 years. Jane and Paul's love and relationship was not PR like the others. Yes, when I read about what happened to Jane I empathize with her. Most of us girls could share first love heartbreak stories. Paul was her first love, her first lover, her first everything, and she was only 22 years old when she caught him after five years of believing in him -trusting him. That happened to me too. There's no shame on her whatsoever, as she did nothing wrong. As Jane said "Acting has been useful in my life." I do not think it's a easy feat for anyone to get over a deep and passionate love in which they both shared. Someone noted that Jane dated Peter Brown, who is gay BTW. Also, that she dated Robert Kidd, which I think they were good friends and it was PR. Neither of them ever confirmed any relationship. There were like three pictures of them and he directed her in a play. Big deal. Part of it was most likely to show Paul she could move on without him because it was in the media. Otherwise, Jane's too private. As for the jealous fans Cynthia, Mo, Patti and Jane were subjected to the same insane stuff. I know when Jane was with Paul he protected her as did their handlers. I am not aware of Jane at odds with Paul over his drug use. Although, Marianne Faithful describes Jane and Paul going back and forth with a window. As biographer Scounce points out there was most likely a lot of pot smoke in the room. Jane did find Paul in bed with Francie Schwartz, who was not worth the loss of Jane. Paul knows that. None of them were See "Playboy to a Man" song. Read the lyrics of the song. Reports suggest her father died on April 25 and had been reported missing from the home on on 30th of April, 1969. The kids were gone and only Jane's mother resided with him. He suffered from depression in later life and reportedly died by suicide at the age of 57.  It was terrible news. A month earlier Paul married Linda. However, as Taylor said Jane is a very strong person and she got through the loss of her father. As for Linda, she was only one of three groupies Paul thought he could choose from. He asked Maggie about marriage and taking care of him, as he did with Francie. Then, there was Linda who was stalking him. When he wasn't home she came over anyway and hoped into bed with Paul's friend Stash. When Paul told them to get out, Stash took Linda over to Graham Nash's house for three days. However, Linda was more easy to control than the other two. The rest is history. So, why would Linda, who never met Jane, be so insecure and jealous about her? I thought the very same thing and when I reached a dead end I went to Paul's lyrics. It's all there. When Linda met Jo Jo Laine the first thing she asked was "Do you know Jane Asher?" Laine thought it was a very strange thing to ask, but not if your husband is still in love with Jane. I bet Linda was not too happy when she sang on all those songs but she decided to tolerate it and remain with him to the end. She was just a band member who was paid wages like the rest. So, it was her job. I also hear their marriage wasn't the best as well and this came from Paul.

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To be honest, I think if Jane has managed to move on from events that happened fifty-plus years ago, we should be able to move on too. There doesn't need to be a hidden meaning in every song Paul McCartney ever wrote etc.

The only people who know the ins-and-outs of a relationship/marriage are the two persons directly involved. No amount of speculation/gossip/theory is ever going to change that.

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