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Wow -- John and Paul (Paul Simon, that is)
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Here’s John Lennon and Paul Simon presenting awards for best pop song (not sure of the year, probably 78 or 79?).  Introduced by Andy Williams (with whom they kid for a minute or two)!

John is being a good boy, going along with the scripted jokes, and perhaps ad-libbing a couple of times — though no doubt he was high as a kite at the time.

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17th Grammy Awards, Los Angeles, 1 March 1975.

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He certainly looks as high as a kite – and Yoko in the audience. She must have been just a couple of months pregnant with Sean by my reckoning.

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And then Art Garfunkel shows up… wow… you think John and Paul (McCartney) didn’t get along in the last years of the ’60s, neither did Paul and Art, though unlike John and Paul, Paul and Art did work together on occasion even after the break-up. BTW, nice shirt, Art.

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Haha, nice clip! I especially liked Garfunkel’s “Still writing, Paul?” wisecrack. Weird to see Yoko in the audience doing the good-natured laughter-thing.

Was that Fred Seaman next to Yoko?

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And Paul Simon’s reply “trying my hand at a little acting”.

Where Paul and Art friendly again at this point or where they still pissed at each other and being polite for the audience, did Paul even know Art was going to accept the award?

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wetsroosa said
And then Art Garfunkel shows up… wow… you think John and Paul (McCartney) didn’t get along in the last years of the ’60s, neither did Paul and Art, though unlike John and Paul, Paul and Art did work together on occasion even after the break-up. BTW, nice shirt, Art.

I think the Paul and Art breakup has been exaggerated.  They had more of a sense of humor than that.  There was a famous SNL show back in 1975 where the two of them reunite for the first time in public.  Art is the SNL host that night, and Paul comes out of the audience and joins him on stage.  When the applause dies down, Art takes a long pause, then says with a dry straight face:  “So you decided to come crawling back, eh?”

And Paul and Art have been doing lots of stuff together, concerts in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s.

Speaking of great SNL shows, the one that featured Paul Simon and George Harrison doing “Here Comes The Sun ” was especially special.

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Funny Paper said

wetsroosa said
And then Art Garfunkel shows up… wow… you think John and Paul (McCartney) didn’t get along in the last years of the ’60s, neither did Paul and Art, though unlike John and Paul, Paul and Art did work together on occasion even after the break-up. BTW, nice shirt, Art.

I think the Paul and Art breakup has been exaggerated.  They had more of a sense of humor than that.  There was a famous SNL show back in 1975 where the two of them reunite for the first time in public.  Art is the SNL host that night, and Paul comes out of the audience and joins him on stage.  When the applause dies down, Art takes a long pause, then says with a dry straight face:  “So you decided to come crawling back, eh?”

And Paul and Art have been doing lots of stuff together, concerts in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s.

Speaking of great SNL shows, the one that featured Paul Simon and George Harrison doing “Here Comes The Sun ” was especially special.

 

Yet they’ve never fully reunited for long-term. Probably pretty smart on their part. I’vve just always heard/read that it got pretty bad between them in the last year or two together, but then again I don’t know my Simon and Garfunkel history at all, so I’ll just shut up now.

I do remember seeing the Simon/Harrison show, with them playing “Here Comes The Sun ” and George’s 2 music videos for 33 1/3. I believe that was also the same show Simon sang “Still Crazy After All These Years” in a turkey suit.

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Art and Simon hate each other. I have seen pre-show press conferences where they look like boxers about to go into the ring. Simon’s Hearts and Bones was originally meant to be a reunion but they’d fallen out again by then, and they still had the Central Park to do. Johnny Ace was originally meant to be them unveiling it, but Paul had kicked Art off the album, so ended up with the scary version where he got the crap scared out of him.

Why do they still do it occasionally? Simon knows many of his songs sound better with a Garfunkel vocal, Art knows they’re rare good pay days. It’s not unusual – the Everly brothers, the Reid brothers (Jesus and Mary Chain), the Gallaghers, Morrissey and Marr, Sonny and Cher – maybe the ones worth respect are the ones who admit, like John and Paul, that they couldn’t do it anymore, rather than those like Mick and Keith that keep coming back for the payday.

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Funny Paper said
Speaking of great SNL shows, the one that featured Paul Simon and George Harrison doing “Here Comes The Sun ” was especially special.

Yes…yes it was. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?…..iOr5WoAJgg

 

From that same show…

 

There is so much to love in this rehearsal audio from that show. Listen to George warming up in the beginning. Damn he was funny.

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I domt think John and Paul couldnt do it any more just needed a break. They wanted to I heard a Story from Art where John asks should I write with my Paul, how was it writing with your Paul again. Art said do it. John was suppose to go to New Orleans to work on Venus And Mars . After the fued died there egos were in the way. Paul showed up many times at Johns house around 76-77 with a guitar but John had baby Sean. Jack Douglas said that John was obsessed during DF session on getting the boys back together for Ringos album. Ringos late 70s albums tarnished his name and he wanted to help his friend. My guess that Ringo would of been an excuse to put there egos aside and right a song for Ringo and move from there. What could of been John was suppose to start working with Ringo in January ’81. 

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I found this exact post on a Simon & Garfunkel message board I could be interesting seeing another point of view on the same subject matter

 

http://www.simonandgarfunkelme…..sg-4922821

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Ron Nasty said
Art and Simon hate each other. I have seen pre-show press conferences where they look like boxers about to go into the ring. Simon’s Hearts and Bones was originally meant to be a reunion but they’d fallen out again by then, and they still had the Central Park to do. Johnny Ace was originally meant to be them unveiling it, but Paul had kicked Art off the album, so ended up with the scary version where he got the crap scared out of him.

I’ve always been a huge Simon and Garfunkel fan.  I was bitterly disappointed when Paul kicked Art of off that album, because I would have loved another S&G album.  

I heard a press conference where Paul said he didn’t really think of Art as a friend, he had known him so long he’s more like family.  But there seemed to be a lasting tension between them, which was unfortunate, especially compared to how beautiful and gentle their music was.  I think Art resented that Paul wanted to have a solo career without him.  And Paul, when his confidence or sales were low, could fall back on another Simon and Garfunkel tour for the payday, and to get back into the spotlight.  And I’m sure he just wanted to play those old songs now and then, and they sounded best with Art’s voice.  

Paul wrote the songs, played the guitar, and even sang lead on many (most?) of the songs.  Art mainly added harmonies and sang lead on some tunes.  As such, Art sometimes didn’t feel like he was contributing enough.  According to him, the reason he wanted to build his acting career was so that he could take that fame, and bring it to Simon and Garfunkel – since Paul was doing most of the musical work.  In his mind, this would make him a better partner, but to Paul it just meant he was seeking glory for himself, and detracting from the music.  Paul wasn’t going to take six months off every time Art wanted to make a movie.  And it turned out Art’s acting career fizzled anyway.

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Hey @forn,

I believe the song The Only Living Boy In New York from the BOTW album addresses Paul’s feelings about Art. The first line is a reference to their original group name, Tom & Jerry. I always get a kick out of Artie singing the “Here I Am” part when he returned from Mexico. When you read about all the challenges Paul faced while making this album, its easy to understand his feelings of abandonment. Despite this, he allowed Art to sing his most acclaimed song. Paul was never a prolific writer, using covers, sound collages, scatting, remixed singles, and even Silent Night to fill albums to the proper length. I would imagine this was frustrating and added to the tension. Regardless, I loved every minute of their collaboration.

The Only Living Boy In New York

Tom, get your plane right on time
I know your part’ll go fine
Fly down to Mexico
Da-n-da-da-n-da-n-da-da and here I am
The only living boy in New York

I get the news I need on the weather report
Oh, I can gather all the news I need on the weather report
Hey, I’ve got nothing to do today but smile
(Da-n-do-da-n-do-da-n-do here I am)
The only living boy in New York

Half of the time we’re gone but we don’t know where
And we don’t know where
(Here I am)
Half of the time we’re gone, but we don’t know where
And we don’t know where

Tom, get your plane right on time
I know that you’ve been eager to fly now
Hey, let your honesty shine, shine, shine
(Da-n-do-da-n-do-da-n-do)
Like it shines on me
The only living boy in New York
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sigh butterfly said
When you read about all the challenges Paul faced while making this album, its easy to understand his feelings of abandonment. Despite this, he allowed Art to sing his most acclaimed song. Paul was never a prolific writer, using covers, sound collages, scatting, remixed singles, and even Silent Night to fill albums to the proper length.

Yeah, I can see things from Paul’s perspective too.  And remember, both he and Art were supposed to be in Catch 22, but Paul’s part got cut out.  I don’t see how you cast Simon and Garfunkel, and then cut one of them.  But whatever.  I love that song, OLBINY, and the story about repeatedly overdubbing the backups in the plate reverb room.  As for Bridge Over Troubled Water, that’s always the song I think of when I say something like “If I was a famous songwriter, I wouldn’t mind having Bridge Over Troubled Water on my resume”.  But I doubt it would have been as famous without Art’s rendition of it.  

I never thought of Paul not being a prolific writer.  It’s not like the Beatles, where you have three to four writers in the group.  When you look at what he did, I mean how prolific do you have to be?  I always thought there were a few clunkers on the Bridge album though, considering what a classic it was (Baby Driver, Why Don’t You Write Me).
  

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