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Paul: ‘John is More Famous Than Me Because of Revisionism"
4 February 2016
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well, dunno what i did but there's a huge scroll that's really anoying. Sorry for that

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Woah that's cool how your post is scrolling.

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4 February 2016
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I'll re-post what i said i few posts above but was almost unreadable.

Anyway. I'd just like to say that having a huge/wide vocal range only makes your vocal range huge/wide. No more no less. No better no worse. Only wider.

Paul has a huge vocal range? Of course he did. But it was not an hability he got by any practice or study, it was his anatomy. A natural thing.

it'll be as if i said i'm better than you 'cause i am taller than you. Being taller is a fact, being better because of that it is not.

Technique is what makes the diffeence between to singers (violin players, cello players, piano players...), and honestly not john nor paul has any technique at all.

Versatility: Paul has 3 different kind of voices (mainly) . His yesterday voice, his Long Tall Sally thing, and his Oh Darling/Helter Skelter one . Which all of them are great,

 my favourite is the Oh darling one, terrific. John has his A Day In The Life voice, his Twist And Shout shoutin' thing, and his screamer I want you.../Mother thing. But they both oscillated between their middle-rocker/ballad range .

Talking about ballads This Boy comes to mind as an example of versatility. In the middle eight John's voice goes high and expressive and melodic ,

while in the verses it's calmed but also melodic and charming

 (isn't this versatility?)...

About failing takes, John nailed Twist And Shout at first take (and he nearly makes Mr. Moonlight at first attempt) and with a cold, while Paul took a few more takes to get his Oh Darling.

But i wouldn't ever say that John was better than Paul just because of that.

So saying Paul was better because his vocal range was wider it's incorrect. And both of them were very versatile, absolutely no doubts about that.

But this could go on this way forever, and i'm way too out of topic so... sorry for the derail.

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Well, Paul nailed Long Tall Sally in one take as well, which is similar to Twist And Shout

One could also make the argument that Oh! Darling was a brand new song while Twist And Shout and Long Tall Sally were being performed by them since quite some time when they had recorded them.

 

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P3pperish said
Well, Paul nailed Long Tall Sally in one take as well, which is similar to Twist And Shout

but without a cold.

One could also argument that what they were looking for in Any Time At All was a kind of call-response thing. With two different voices , tones and colors... 

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So, are you trying to say he couldn't have done it with a cold? I'm sure Paul has earned enough credibility to assume that he could. We will never know, however. But let's not hold even that against Paul now, shall we?

And I really don't know what you're trying to say with Any Time At All here. 

 

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The Any Time At All   thing came trough this:

JPM-Fangirl said

I recall a 'No Reply ' outtake, in which John says, 'I can't even get up to the light now.' That high note was within his range, but he couldn't get there within the context of the song, so he ended up taking the low harmony, and Paul did the high one. And then there's of course the second 'Any Time At All ', same thing, really.

P3pperish said
So, are you trying to say he couldn't have done it with a cold? 

 

No. i'm just trying to say that those two recording sessions and their circumstances were pretty different. Nailing Twist And Shout at first take, after a 11 hours recording session and with a cold it's not comparable at all (or it shouldn't be) with the Long Tall Sally thing which was recorded in a 4 and a half hours session and was the only song the main singer sang that day. With this, i'm not saying at all that Paul, under the same circumstances, couldn't have done it. I'm just saying that John's vocal prowess is, to say the less, equals to Paul's.

But the main point i wanted to do was that :

Paul was better because his vocal range was wider it's incorrect.

for the reasons i pointed at above.

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Paul recorded 'Yesterday ', 'I'm Down ' and 'I've Just Seen A Face ' all on the same day. John sang more on the day recording the 'Please Please Me ' album.

I think the point is that both John and Paul were really damn fine singers and whilst Paul probably had the wider vocal range (I don't know for certain nor do I particularly care) it doesn't automatically make him a better singer, that's down to opinion.

Mariah Carey has a wider vocal range than Paul (apparently a whole octave a-hard-days-night-ringo-6) but I'd rather have one of her albums forced down my throat and then ripped out my stomach than listen to it. And no doubt some Mariah fans would claim all day long she is a far superior singer compared to Paul.

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Thanks for clearing that up Lillo, about the Any Time At All 🙂

Ugh, Mariah Carey. If anyone was ever overrated, it's her. I can't stand her.

 

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I have been been a fan since this album, although I can't recall that I heard any tracks from it.Image Enlarger

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