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Miscellaneous questions about John Lennon
3 June 2014
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Well you know I've heard two very different versions of this story both second hand through less than reliable sources so I can't vouch for accuracy

The first version:

They loved her!

Rumour has it they baked her a cake. Then George fed her biscuits, while Paul massaged her feet, and Ringo fluffed up her pillows.

They asked her, well really they begged her, to be the 5th Beatle but she said no, I couldn't possibly, what you all have is so special.

Then alas she took her bed and went home leaving them sad and bereft.

George was seen wandering around the studio, devastated and depressed, muttering 'I will never dust the top of that amp again'.

 

The second version:

There were one or two little issues.

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It was either that, or Paul thought she was a loon and suggested Lennon might be interested in funding her ridiculous project.

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I'm just watching Elvis Costello on Sky Arts, and he is telling the story of how his dad performed on the same bill as The Beatles at the Royal Command Performance in 1963.

His interviewer said that John got into trouble with his "rattle your jewellery" comments, and Elvis agreed.

This is the first time I have ever heard about John getting into trouble over this. I always thought it was an accepted part of his "scouse humour"!

Has anyone else ever heard this?

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Never heard that at all, no. Every account I've read has the press & "the establishment" delighted with the remark and singling it out as "Beatle wit". I don't know where Elvis or the interviewer got their information from.

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions, Marvin Gaye. PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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I remember reading somewhere that John had threatened to say "rattle your fucking jewelry" before the actual performance.  I don't know if it's actually true or not.

 

EDIT: It's only semi-related to the topic, but maybe they're confusing details or something is my point.

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A few years back I had an ex that had passed away.  I would like to think we were on good terms at the time of his passing, but you never know.

 

I am curious if the following people were on good terms with John right before the time of his death.

 

Paul McCartney

 

George Martin

George Harrison

 

Ringo Starr

 

I know Paul wished he ironed everything out with John , but thats about all I know.

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5 June 2014
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Paul was on good terms with John, They started to get some more communication and iron out some of the large things before his death

 

George wasn't as good with John as Paul was when he died, they had some problems in the seventies

 

Ringo was on good terms with John

 

I am not sure about George M

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6 June 2014
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Here's a thread about John and George.

https://www.beatlesbible.com/f.....t-beatles/

@onosoul1, I will do some more searching tomorrow evening to find more links to put into this post (keep checking here for edits) about John's relationship with the other three...unless someone beats me to it and adds a post after mine with some helpful links.

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thanks Ahhh Girll I appreciate it :)

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Hey, everyone, this is proving to be a harder task than what I thought it would be. I putting out a "all hands on deck" call. Please help me conversations about onosoul1's topic.

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I'll be out much of tomorrow, but I'll pitch in soon as I can.

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I am curious if the following people were on good terms with John right before the time of his death.

 

Paul McCartney

 

George Martin

George Harrison

 

Ringo Starr

 

OK well I'll do my best to provide some sensible info, there's a first time for everything :)

 

Paul McCartney : This is from a 1984 Interview with Playboy where Paul talked about his last ever contact with John

 

PLAYBOY: Do you remember your last conversation with John?

PAUL: Yes. That is a nice thing, a consoling factor for me, because I do
feel it was sad that we never actually sat down and straightened our
differences out. But fortunately for me, the last phone conversation I
ever had with him was really great, and we didn't have any kind of
blowup. It could have easily been one of the other phone calls, when we
blew up at each other and slammed the phone down.

PLAYBOY: Do you remember what you talked about?

PAUL: It was just a very happy conversation about his family, my family.
Enjoying his life very much; Sean was a very big part of it. And thining
about getting on with his career. I remember he said, "Oh, God , I'm like
Aunt Mimi, padding round here in me dressing gown"--robe, as he called
it, 'cause he was picking up the American vernacular--"feeding the cats
in me robe and cooking and putting a cup of tea on. This housewife wants
a career!" It was that time for him. He was about to launch Double Fantasy .

 

Ringo Starr : As Annadog said Ringo and John were on good terms. Ringo last saw John in New York at the Plaza on November 15th 1980 and they hung out for about five hours or so and Ringo said they had a real nice time

There is a sad Youtube clip with Ringo (he's quite upset) talking with Barbara Walters about the last time he saw John here:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?.....qXkOTYoys8

 

George Harrison : You have the great link from Ahhhgirl so that should cover that :)

 

George Martin: Well I don't really know much and others may be able to post or link more on this. George Martin has always remained very fond of John and talks of him with affection as he does all the Beatles. It is known of course that after the Beatles broke up there were a few less than happy exchanges between George Martin and John.

When John's letters were published a rather harsh letter to George Martin was included. Details of the rifts and what caused them are here https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/.....00104.html

Yoko told George Martin after John died that she wished John had worked with George again and George Martin said if he had been asked, he would have jumped at the chance - but they never did work together, unfortunately.

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Yeah John and Paul were on good terms but still not what they were. They jammed in '74, were hanging watching SNL in '76 jamming. They also talked on the phone quite a bit from '77-1980. John also made good comments about Paul in one of his last interviews maybe Rolling Stone. That he has only picked to work with two People Paul McCartney and Yoko Ono, that aint bad pickin or something. Also said to who ever did his last interview in a car ride that they were like brothers and would do anything for each other. 

He was mad at George because his autobiography I, Me,Mine he thought omitted him. Talks about it in the Playboy Interview I think its very long. 

He and Ringo were suppose to record in January of '81 for Ringos new album. I'm 99% sure he was the last Beatle who saw him in October or November of 1980 or something. 

John was upset with George Martin over some comments. Just a guess but I would also say his relationship with Paul or thoughts of favoritism annoyed him. But he mentions in one of last interviews either Rolling Stone or Playboy that he thought George Martin takes to much credit for The Beatles achievements.   

But I would recommend reading some of the final interviews or researching some of the other stuff. 

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There's a quote that gets attributed to John: "Being honest may not get you a lot of friends but it'll always get you the right ones.”

Did John actually say this, and if so, where? I couldn't a different author in my search but there's something about the quote that seems a bit off. I can't quite hear it in his voice.

I feel like we could have an entire thread called "Did John Say This?"

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Doesn't sound like something John would say in that way to me and i've never seen it in one of his interviews or in a book about him. I always get wary when a quote is plastered all over the net without an original source easy to come upon.

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Yeah, like that "What do you want to be when you grow up?" "I want to be happy" one.

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions, Marvin Gaye. PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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vonbontee said
Yeah, like that "What do you want to be when you grow up?" "I want to be happy" one.

I thought of that. You wouldn't believe how strongly people cling to that one as being a John story.

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parlance said
There's a quote that gets attributed to John: "Being honest may not get you a lot of friends but it'll always get you the right ones.”

Did John actually say this, and if so, where? I couldn't a different author in my search but there's something about the quote that seems a bit off. I can't quite hear it in his voice.

I feel like we could have an entire thread called "Did John Say This?"

parlance

Pretty sure that's yet another quote that originated on Tumblr. Home of made up quotes since 2007. The quote is on the web attributed to 'anonymous' in earlier times.

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I have a question about John's parents.

Did Julia and Alfred get divorced? I know Julia lived with Bobby Dykins until she died, but did she actually marry Dykins?

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@Beatleva No, Julia and Alfred never divorced. From what can be understood, there was no contact between them after the events in Blackpool. Although she lived as Mrs. Dykins, her and Bobby were unable to marry.

This caused some problems after Julia 's death as, still being married to Alfred, he was entitled to her estate.

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