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Miscellaneous questions about John Lennon
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@Ahhh Girl said
RN might be willing to receive the document. I can pay for it.  

That would be something I would be most willing to do.

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Oh wow AG, thanks. I was more than willing to split the costs with you! 

 

The people in-charge of wills are going to be quite confused that we’re looking for one that’s almost 30 years old from some random old lady. I imagine they deal mostly with people who were cut-out of recent wills and want to see what the bequeathed got.

 

I am very much looking forward to our findings. I know Yoko sold Mimi’s house (put it up for sale the day Mimi was cremated if I remember correctly- very charming) which meant John must have kept the house in his own name rather than ‘gifted’ it to Mimi. 

 

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I would really love to read the will as well. This is very cool and I didn’t know that it was possible. 

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Starr Shine? said
I don’t think Yoko was subordinate.

  

Subordinate  musically……….Surely you agree she wasn’t up to John or Paul’s level.

Maybe you don’t!

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Shamrock Womlbs said
How did John influence, or inspire, Yoko’s creativity? I mean, Yoko came from a very artistic ambient. Fluxus and all that. I guess pretty much everything John and Yoko did (bagism, bed peace, their performances with john making noise with his guitar…, planting seeds and those things) were motivated by Yoko. I might be wrong, though.

What inspiration she found in John?

  

Reading the book in the Imagine deluxe edition Yoko says that she, before meeting John, used to be an snob artist. Then she changed in the way that she wanted to do things more easy to understand.

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Wigwam said

Starr Shine? said

I don’t think Yoko was subordinate.

  

Subordinate  musically……….Surely you agree she wasn’t up to John or Paul’s level.

Maybe you don’t!

  

You can’t compare them because they weren’t trying to do the same things.

Don’t pretend that when Yoko wrote “Fly” she was going for “PS I Love You .”

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I have a question: Did John ever give up meditation itself?

The main take away from the India fiasco for John always seemed to be that the Maharishi was phony. We know that. However on the ’69 Christmas record, John says he “Would like (A bowl of) cornflakes, and i’d like it blessed with a Hare Krishna manta.” – This seems to imply a devotion to meditation even despite his feelings about Mehesh Yogi. I was wondering if he indeed still believed in it at the time of his passing. I know he was deeply into astrology and numbers and planetary alignments, that sort of thing.

In the 2000 movie Two Of Us (Which is a nice work of McLennon Fan-fiction beatlemaniacs_02_gif ) John and Paul share a meditation session together. IF that is a true showcase of what he was into then, I was curious as to what form of meditation it was. The bell he rung intrigued me as I know it likely has a meaning similar to the one in (Just Like) Starting Over , so I’m interested to know if any of that was factual and what it was?

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 Interesting question a-hard-days-night-ringo-8

Did John play live regularly after the breakup? I’ve seen a few videos, but I wasn’t sure if they were just one-offs or part of a larger pattern. 

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he was humming to the neon of the universal sound. 

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I have a question: Did John ever give up meditation itself?

  

My guess is that he did abandon it altogether…  the attraction to meditation for John was that he could reach a certain euphoric state of mind without having to use L.S.D….  his pathway during the 70’s was one of a more grounding road…  I remember him speaking fondly about learning to cook rice (“anyone can cook rice but few can cook it well”) and even boasting that he could make rice “reasonably well”…  he was done with Pepperland after The Beatles quit…  meditation was just another phase for him…  Yoko was the real thing and he was able to replace all of the other escapisms with his new found life…  “The Dream Is Over” was also very “real”…  he wasn’t interested in revisiting the dream-like scenario that meditation provided, in my opinion…:-)

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Billy Rhythm said
I remember him speaking fondly about learning to cook rice (“anyone can cook rice but few can cook it well”) and even boasting that he could make rice “reasonably well”…  

As someone who cooks rice on a daily basis, I can confirm this is true. I’ve been doing it for years and it’s still hit-or-miss for me. ahdn_paul_01

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Ohhh Boy introduced me to rice cookers. Oh, how wonderful they are. Ours is from the 1960s or 70s. It still works great.

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Beatlebug said

Billy Rhythm said

“anyone can cook rice but few can cook it well”

As someone who cooks rice on a daily basis, I can confirm this is true. I’ve been doing it for years and it’s still hit-or-miss for me. ahdn_paul_01

  

that is a direct quote from John himself…  in my opinion, one has to have the right rice to begin with and White Basmati gets my vote…  not sure on this but I believe that John became practiced at the Art of Rice after a trip to Japan with Yoko during the Dakota Years…:-)

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I also think it’s about not dismissing the act of cooking. He was singing for his supper but couldn’t make it himself. That changed and he appreciated something he took for granted. 

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So far as I understand it, none of the Beatles abandoned meditation, Paul and Ringo still mention doing it when it crops it. It was the Guru they abandoned, not the teaching. Now they’d call it mindfulness.

The bell was John’s Wishing Bell. He liked that he had moved from the doomy Mother  bell to the hope of his Wishing Bell and Starting Over.

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Ron Nasty said
So far as I understand it, none of the Beatles abandoned meditation, Paul and Ringo still mention doing it when it crops it. It was the Guru they abandoned, not the teaching. Now they’d call it mindfulness.

The bell was John’s Wishing Bell. He liked that he had moved from the doomy Mother  bell to the hope of his Wishing Bell and Starting Over.  

I thought thats what it was, but the story took place in 1976 so I was certain it was different. ahdn_john_08_gif

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The Wishing Bell, a Tibetan prayer bell, was a present to John from Yoko in around 1973. It sat on a shelf in the Dakota. When John got the idea that it would make a nice contrast to the Mother  funereal bell that opened Plastic Ono Band, someone was dispatched to bring in the bell.

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Ron Nasty said
The Wishing Bell, a Tibetan prayer bell, was a present to John from Yoko in around 1973. It sat on a shelf in the Dakota. When John got the idea that it would make a nice contrast to the Mother  funereal bell that opened Plastic Ono Band, someone was dispatched to bring in the bell.  

Cool!

I have another question, Ron, and this one is rather specific and might require you to do some brain….er…brain-ary! Me am good talker, I Is! a-hard-days-night-john-1

I’m doing a rather extensive fan fiction idea based around the HOLLYWOOD VAMPIRES drinking club at the Rainbow bar & grill in LA that John was a part of. For my project, I want to know a lot of very specific details.

Exactly WHEN did John become a frequenter of the bar? There’s a lot of conflicting information on this that I have read. Some say he stopped by “Whenever he toured america”, but that would be impossible as the bar opened in ’72 and John didn’t “tour” after that. Alice Cooper himself says John AND Keith Moon were there “Every night”, and i know John was living in LA partying with Nilsson when he was kicked out of the Troubadour, so I need an exact time frame of when the period began. Was he known as a member of the vampires BEFORE work on the Pussy Cats album began, IE, before Moon arrived in LA or the Troubadour incident? I need dates!

This serves to tie into my next part of the questioning:

How long did Keith, Ringo, Harry, May and John live in the Santa Monica house? The dates I have seem unclear to me. From what I heard, A Toot And A Snore in ’74 took place on 28 March 1974, just six days after they all moved in (on the 22nd??) and that was the night of first Pussy Cats session. Further, the sources I read say that the very next day was when Paul showed up again and the last photos of them were taken. John then halts the sessions on April 10th to go back to NY to finish it. Does this all check out? Honestly it doesn’t seem to make sense to me because I still don’t know when John MOVED OUT OF THE HOUSE! Because the way Alice Cooper tells it, they were pretty much in there drinking every night, and to me that means way more than less than one month. There’s also the incident from the Rock N’ roll period where Keith and Harry peed on the mixing desk, which would indicate the trio–or at least, them living near each other– was active BEFORE Pussy Cats began in LA.

Currently in my fan fic i just had the story taking place in early May, but if John was back in NY by April, that date won’t work, will it? mccartney-shrug_01_gif

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what were the songs that john called “granny music” besides When I’m 64?? i just want to make sure i’m not missing any…

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@TheWalrusWasBrian  said
what were the songs that john called “granny music” besides When I’m 64?? i just want to make sure i’m not missing any…

 

  

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To answer your question, I believe Your Mother Should Know was also considered “granny music” by John. I think Honey Pie and Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da were also granny music…. which ones am I forgetting? I feel like Martha My Dear or Hello Goodbye might also qualify as granny music…

For the record, I am very fond of granny music john-lennon-salute_gif

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@TheWalrusWasBrian  said

what were the songs that john called “granny music” besides When I’m 64?? i just want to make sure i’m not missing any…

 

  

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oof yes here i am. 

To answer your question, I believe Your Mother Should Know was also considered “granny music” by John. I think Honey Pie and Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da were also granny music…. which ones am I forgetting? I feel like Martha My Dear or Hello Goodbye might also qualify as granny music…

For the record, I am very fond of granny music john-lennon-salute_gif

  

thanks! ikr, granny music is some good stuff. 

“is granny music a bad thing? it wouldn’t be bad if you were a granny.” -ringo (not really) 

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