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Julian Lennon Thread
13 June 2019
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Maybe I haven't heard the right things, but I don't really like much of Sean or Julian's music. I did like that one Julian song, "It's Much Too Late for Goodbyes" or whatever it was called.

I liked that cover of Happy X-mas that Sean did with Miley Cyrus.

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15 June 2019
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I think that all of the Beatles' children were behind the eight-ball from the beginning while pursuing the dream of becoming a successful recording artist...  their music would obviously be compared to their fathers' work and have to be something truly extraordinary to gain any longevity in the respect department...  I liked Julian's debut when it came out a lot but have rarely listened to any of his work since...  his best one was 'Valotte', in my opinion, and a lot of it has to do with his voice eerily resembling his Dad's...  Sean's best stuff is his covers of John's stuff when performing live, but I've yet to be impressed by any of his originals...  I haven't even heard any of Paul's son's recordings yet and haven't gone out of my way to do so...  Dhani's best that I've heard was his cover of 'For You Blue ' that I believe was a television commercial for something...

 

some of you may remember an early 90's album called 'Hormonally Yours' by a UK group named 'Shakespeare's Sister' which I learned much later after many listens, and finally reading the CD liner notes, was recorded at Friar Park...  if I remember correctly (don't have the disc off hand) Dhani had a hand in the production/engineering...  this album was top notch in the day but probably the best success story in The Beatles' kids' body of works has to be Zak's numerous projects with big names...  Mr. Starkey quickly made his way out of his father's immense shadow, coming into his own in a way that none of the others will likely ever accomplish...  I still don't think he's as good as Ringo though...;-)

 

Julian turned out to be a fine human being, especially considering the surreal circumstance of his upbringing, but his music is something that he unfortunately didn't find himself...  it found him, and all things considered he dealt with it admirably and appears to have moved on from it and pursued other interests that ARE his own...  I don't knock him for any of the "whiny" statements that he's made to the press...  many of those responses were from being cornered by journalists asking questions about things that were nobody's business but Julian and his family's, such as details about the Lennon Estate...  he could use some advice from Yoko on how to deal with the press and provide them with a "don't go there" list before commencing interviews...  Julian is a class act, as are all of the Beatles' children...:-) 

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26 June 2019
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So how do we all feel about John and Julian's relationship? Personally despite what Julian says about John, him and John did have a good relationship. Reading Cynthia's book "John", she was saying in the early days John did take great care of Julian. But when John got into drugs, his relationship with Julian was no more. After the divorce John was asking to see Julian frequently (might I add Julian was at Tittenhurst quite a lot). We also all know about The Lost Weekend era and that was a big turning point in John and Julians relationship. Julian was present at the Dakota quite a bit. Towards the end of John's life Julian was there. John was thinking about Julian a lot. Well anyways i wanna hear what you folks think!

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26 June 2019
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^That's pretty consistent with my understanding. I haven't done a lot of research into the topic, though.

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30 June 2019
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StarEmblem said
Personally despite what Julian says about John, him and John did have a good relationship.

That makes absolutely no sense. You are not Julian, nor are you John, so how can you just disregard Julian's and John's own experiences?

Julian has said before that Paul was more of a father to him than his own dad was. 

If you've read Cynthia's book, you would know how uncomfortable Julian was visiting his father, and how he never truly felt like he was a part of John's family after John moved to New York. "It was still very distant. I probably knew him as much as I know you. That's about how warm it was. There were cuddles now and then but there was always an uneasy tension."

“I had a great deal of anger towards Dad because of his negligence and his attitude to peace and love. That peace and love never came home to me." I've seen this same sentiment from Julian in multiple interviews, and I believe Cynthia writes in her book about him saying this to her even as a young child. 

"I got rights to see him on his holidays and all that business, and at least there's an open line still going. It's not the best relationship between father and son, but it is there. He's 17 now. Julian and I will have a relationship in the future." (Spoiler alert: there was no future)

It seems to me that at the time of John's death they were beginning to build their relationship, but before then, there was not a very strong bond between them. 

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1 July 2019
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I just saw this pic. Thought it was cool:

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