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John’s death: where were you, how did you react?
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It’s a shame John had to die at so young, we missed out on him encouraging America not to go to war after 9/11 and even worse is that Yoko had to live through all of this, it must’ve felt like hell to her because I can’t think of a truer love than John and Yoko and if they weren’t pacifists, Yoko probably would’ve tracked Mark down and impaled him in the middle of Strawberry Fields.

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Legendary newspaper writer Jimmy Breslin passed away 11 days ago. Breslin had an incredible knack for reporting major new stories from unique perspectives. When John F. Kennedy was shot, he took readers through a day in the life of Clifton Pollard – the man who dug the President’s grave.

On December 9 1980, Breslin told the story of what happened the night before from an angle that still gives me chills to this day.

A Part of Cop’s Past Lies Dead

That summer in Breezy Point, when he was 18 and out of Madison High in Brooklyn, there was the Beatles on the radio at the beach through the hot days and on the jukebox through the nights in the Sugar Bowl and Kennedys. He was young and he let his hair grow and there were girls and it was the important part of life. Last year, Tony Palma even went to see Beatlemania.

And now, last night, a 34-year-old man, he sat in a patrol car at 82nd St. and Columbus Ave. and the call came over the radio: “Man shot, 1 West 72 St..”

Palma and his partner, Herb Frauenberger, rushed through the Manhattan streets to an address they knew as one of the most famous living places in the country, the Dakota apartments. Another patrol car was there ahead of them, and as Palma got out he saw the officers had a man up against the building and were handcuffing him.

“Where’s the guy shot?” Palma said. “In the back,” one of the cops said.

Palma went through the gates into the Dakota courtyard and up into the office, where a guy in a red shirt and jeans was on his face on the floor. Palma rolled the guy over. Blood was coming out of the mouth and covering the face. The chest was wet with blood. Palma took the arms and Frauenberger took the legs. They carried the guy out to the street. Somebody told them to put the body in another patrol car.

Jim Moran’s patrol car was waiting. Moran is from the South Bronx, from Williams Ave., and he was brought up on Tony Bennett records in the jukeboxes. When he became a cop in 1964, he was put on patrol guarding the Beatles at their hotel. Girls screamed and pushed and Moran laughed. Once, it was all fun.

Now responding to the call, “Man shot, 1 West 72,” Jim Moran, a 45-year-old policeman, pulled up in front of the Dakota and Tony Palma and Herb Frauenberger put this guy with blood all over him in the backseat. As Moran started driving away, he heard people in the street shouting, “That’s John Lennon !” Moran was driving with Bill Gamble. As they went through the streets to Roosevelt Hospital, Moran looked in the backseat and said, “Are you John Lennon ?” The guy in the back nodded and groaned.

Back on 72 St., somebody told Palma, “Take the woman.” And a shaking woman, another victim’s wife, crumpled into the backseat as Palma started for Roosevelt Hospital. She said nothing to the two cops and they said nothing to her. Homicide is not a talking matter.

Jim Moran, with John Lennon in the backseat, was on the radio as he drove to the hospital. “Have paramedics meet us at the emergency entrance,” he called. When he pulled up to the hospital, they were waiting for him with a cart. As Lennon was being wheeled through the doors into the emergency room, the doctors were on him. “John Lennon ,” somebody said.“Yes, it is,” Moran said.

Now Tony Palma pulled up to the emergency entrance. He let the woman out and she ran to the doors. Somebody called to Palma, “That’s Yoko Ono.” “Yeah?” Palma said. “They just took John Lennon in,” the guy said.

Palma walked into the emergency room. Moran was there already. The doctors had John Lennon on a table in a trauma room, working on the chest, inserting tubes. Tony Palma said to himself, I don’t think so. Moran shook his head. He thought about his two kids, who know every one of the Beatles’ big tunes. And Jim Moran and Tony Palma, older now, cops in a world with no fun, stood in the emergency room as John Lennon , whose music they knew, whose music was known everywhere on earth, became another person who died after being shot with a gun on the streets of New York.

The original article, in two sections, is under the spoiler.

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@Zig, the date above is surely wrong.

9th October 1980!!

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meanmistermustard said
@Zig, the date above is surely wrong.

9th October 1980!!  

I originally typed it out that way. Then I realized that my calendar only has one October, not nine. Just how many Octobers were there in the UK in 1980? a-hard-days-night-ringo-7

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Apparently greater than or equal to number nine. 

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Zig said

I originally typed it out that way. Then I realized that my calendar only has one October, not nine. Just how many Octobers were there in the UK in 1980? a-hard-days-night-ringo-7  

I am almost certain the problem @meanmistermustard is pointing to is the date of the article, @Zig. John was shot on 8 December 1980 while on the 9 October 1980 he was celebrating his 40th and final birthday.

Very good article though, and thanks for sharing, but I’m with mmm that it’s unlikely to have been published two months before John’s murder.

Oh, and we had just the one October in 1980.

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It’s one of those days that won’t ever really leave my memory. I was 14 (15 that July) and in the early part of my freshman year of High School. Of course it happened late and I was in bed asleep. The next morning, mom told me. She’d been drowsing and thought she was dreaming when my dad, watching the news, told her John Lennon had been shot, and continued sleeping. Flipping on the TV the next morning, the first thing to greet us was the photo of John from The White Album photo set on the screen, with the final chord of “A Day In The Life ” resonating, screen fading to black. We both broke down and sobbed.

Another song portion that played often during photo montages and images of fans mourning was from “God “. The words still make me choke up now: “The dream is over, what can I say? The dream is over, yesterday. I was the dream weaver, but now I’m reborn. I was the Walrus, but now I’m John. And so dear friends, you just have to carry on. The dream is over.” And I’d be crying all over again.

It was s surreal thing. Here’s this person, sort of larger than life… he loomed large in mine, anyway. You think nothing can ever happen to him, almost like he’s immortal, you know? I was young, and at least that’s how I felt about him. When I turned on that TV to the final chord of that song, and it really, really hit home, it was like a sucker punch to the gut. Still is so fresh this many years later.

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Ron Nasty said

I am almost certain the problem @meanmistermustard is pointing to is the date of the article, @Zig. John was shot on 8 December 1980 while on the 9 October 1980 he was celebrating his 40th and final birthday.

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apology for poor english

when were you when john lenin dies?

i was sat at home eating smegma butter when pjotr ring

‘john is kill’

‘no’

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I’ve found a number of quotes from one of the doctors who tried to save John’s life in a book that I have at home,but they’re quite difficult to read, and obviously the last thing I want to do is upset anyone. If enough people want to see them,I’ll post them here. Just drop me an @paul-mccartney-thumb_gif 

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Just out of interest, @Father McKenzie, which doctor?

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@Ron Nasty: Dr Stephan Lynn

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Thought it might be. You might find this and this interesting. His account of his role in the events of that night are unsupported by nearly everyone who was there, including his claims about Yoko’s reaction.

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@Ron Nasty: thanks for these. In the 2nd report,where it says that Halleran squeezed John’s heart,in my book,Lynn takes credit for that. He said “I literally held John Lennon ‘s heart in my hand and massaged it to try to get it going again. We transfused blood but it was clear that with all of the vessels destroyed,there would be nothing we could do”. 

He then goes on to say that, once they all realised that it was John “a lot of people started to cry. We then told the staff that they couldn’t sell their uniforms that might be bloodstained”.  Why that would be the first thing out of your mouth to a group of people who were presumably in shock and traumatized I don’t know ahdn_paul_01

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Ron Nasty said
Thought it might be. You might find this and this interesting. His account of his role in the events of that night are unsupported by nearly everyone who was there, including his claims about Yoko’s reaction.  

I really enjoyed reading those, thanks @Ron Nasty. As awful as it all was, it’s cool to have some light shed on the people who had to deal with that kind of emergency.

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I was only 6 months old at the time of his death. I mourned him as a teenager when I first really stared listening to The Beatles and found John so fascinating and awe inspiring. Not just because he wasn’t alive but because he lead such a complex life. A comical goofball with real historical trauma, anger and confusion. I can’t help but wonder what he would have been like if he were still with us today. 

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Necko said
apology for poor english

when were you when john lenin dies?

i was sat at home eating smegma butter when pjotr ring

‘john is kill’

‘no’  

I love this

I've been up on the mountain, and I've seen his wondrous grace,
I've sat there on the barstool and I've looked him in the face.
He seemed a little haggard, but it did not slow him down,
he was humming to the neon of the universal sound. 

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My clock radio used to click on at 6:50 to get me up for work. At that time Radio 1 only started at 7am and I remained half asleep whilst Radio 2 played muzak. At 7pm Dave Lee Travis came on and in a sombre voice and highly unusually said they were going straight over to the news.”And we begin today the the shock news that John Lennon has been shot dead outside his home in New York” said the newsreader in an excitable voice, I’ll never forget it. I sat bolt upright and screamed “WHAT” at the top of my voice, horrified and suddenly completely awake. It was numbing. I went through the day in a haze, recorded the news at 7:30 and could hardly do anything whilst at work. I’ve still got the tape. The evening was spent watching pretty much everything I could about the murder in the days before VCR ownership. A vile day.

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My Beatles journey properly started around 2007. I was first year university and was staying at the student accomodation. My roommates used to play the Beatles on their speakers, and naturally I couldn’t help but listen to the music as well. I knew of the band but never really gave them much thought for some reason until then. I became interested and did my own research. I actually started by listening to John Lennon ’s solo career first before launching into the Beatles.

I remember listening to Imagine on loop over and over one night, and thinking about how this man was no longer alive. It was beautiful but sad. I distinctly remember having a shower that night and being deep in thought about it all, and shivering. It was in this moment I fully realised what a huge loss John was to the world. I was so fascinated about this man, mixed in with a melancholy feeling. I couldn’t get enough. I had an image of John on my wall, and I decided to grow my hair longer – something I’ve maintained since then.

I bought the Working Class Hero compilation CD and that’s all I listened to. While I was driving or when I was in my room, or in the library with my iPod. I was amazed at how good the music was, almost like I was in on a secret. Like I had this mythical Lennon on my side, with his words and melodies getting me through the day, always at the back of my mind and engrained in my soul. I began thinking about what he would think about certain things, and began thinking like him in general. I watched all the videos and listened to all the interviews I could. 

I then explored the Beatles, buying all the 1987 edition CDs wherever I could find them. I eventually got the whole collection. Around 2009 the remasters were released, and naturally I traded up. I have both the stereo and mono sets. 

I have visited New York three times in the last five years, and made the pilgrimage to the Dakota and Strawberry Fields memorial. It was a special moment for me, to walk where John walked. I also went to Liverpool, which was also special. 

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I didn’t find out ’till the morning of the 9th, walking to school, meeting one of my 8th grade classmates: “Hey, did you hear? One of the Beatles got shot last night!” 

We were the two student safety-patrol volunteer crossing guards, keeping our eyes on all the younger and youngest kiddies as they crossed a fairly busy intersection approaching the school; we both liked doing the job because we weren’t expected to show up in class at 9, not with our responsibilities; so we could dawdle until 9:10 or 9:15 or whenever…anyways, Cliff and I were both required to wear those bright-orange over-the-shoulder belts, and had plastic badges to pin on them…

…and I just found mine, amongst a bunch of old stuff my mum kept for decades!

So here it is – the very badge I was wearing on the morning of Dec. 9/80, nine hours after the gunshots, when I heard the news, oh boy

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