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(Just Like) Starting Over
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(Just Like) Starting Over single artwork - John Lennon

Written by: Lennon
Recorded: 6 August-13 October 1980
Producers: John Lennon, Yoko Ono, Jack Douglas

Released: 24 October 1980 (UK), 20 October 1980 (US)

John Lennon: vocals, electric guitar
Earl Slick, Hugh McCracken: electric guitar
Tony Levin: bass guitar
George Small: keyboards
Michelle Simpson, Cassandra Wooten, Cheryl Mason Jacks, Eric Troyer: backing vocals
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I didn't realise this until recently but there are a few hidden nods and winks to Paul in this song all within the same line. "It's time to spread our wings and fly, don't let another day go by my love. It's debatable whether it was intentional but it's known John and Paul would put little hidden messages in their songs. Could this be a call to Paul about starting over and getting together..."like we used to in the early days"? We know there was some speculation that "Coming Up " contained a few lines directed at John..  "You want some peace and understanding So everybody can be free I know that we can get together We can make it, stick with me".  I've often also wondered if Coming Up was a metaphor for something like a seed that's been in hibernation to make it to the surface and flower...like John.

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Pivotal Moments in Beatles History No.118:  Yoko helps herself to one of George's digestives. 

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You can have intentional nods and winks, but unintentional nods and winks are just coincidences, hidden meanings people find that aren't really there.

Do I believe John wrote things into Starting Over as nods and winks to Paul? Do I believe it was message to Paul?

No. The song - or its parts - went through many stages. For those who know the home demos, the evolution is clear. Lines float through various demos throughout the late-70s, resulting in three semi-finished love songs - My LifeDon't Be Crazy and The Worst Is Over. At the last minute, as he'd done in the past, he pulled fragments from each to make up Starting Over. When you listen to the demos, it's pretty obvious Yoko is the subject.

Sometimes, most times, they're just the words that fit, and not some secret message to Paul.

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You might be right Ron but I don't think you can rule it out. I know there have been a lot of crazy Beatle fan theories over the years and it's easy to read more into things than is actually there. But it's a big coincidence to have two Wings song titles and a reference to wings in one line. It wouldn't be the first time either.

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Myself, I think it can be ruled out. Were they unusual phrases that Paul had used as songs titles then I could maybe see something there. Neither is an unusual phrase though.

If you're looking to find something chances are you'll find it.

I mean, you reference two phrases in the song, "another day" and "my love", that were also Paul song titles. Well, in the next verse John drops another Paul song title:

Like we used to in the early days

An argument for that being a tip of the hat from John to Paul can't be made though. Paul wouldn't write a song called Early Days  (which was clearly about him and John) for another few decades. Just John finding the right words to fit. Just as his use of "another day" and "my love" earlier in the song was John finding the right words to fit.

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Yes but perhaps Paul wrote Early Days as a nod to Starting Over 🙂 I'm kidding I don't really believe that but then again who knows? Also where else in John's songs can you find references to Paul Songs? Well there's How Do You Sleep which we know contained deliberate references to Another Day & Yesterday . I can't think of any others. 

Incidentally I'm not someone who pores over lyrics looking for meaning I just heard this theory mentioned on Something About the Beatles podcast

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