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13 March 2019
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*immediately starts scouring the internet for it*

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14 March 2019
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Bongo said
Hope you folks got to watch the Joko Film "Above Us Only Sky" on A&E last night.. Jealous guy was in it! two-virgins

https://www.aetv.com/specials/.....s-only-sky

  

I'm not able to watch A & E so I didn't see it. I don't really like how every new thing comes out on a completely different channel that you have to subscribe to in order to watch that one thing...Maybe my experience is not the same as most peoples', though. I don't really watch TV. I only recently got Netflix (just so I could watch Stranger Things). Before that I only watched DVD and Blu-ray.

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14 March 2019
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Agreed ^^ 

Back on topic, I like to see this song as part of a progression from the more misogynistic outlook of John's earlier writing (Run For Your Life , You Can't Do That ) to a more self aware point of view with this song and others like Getting Better and Woman . It's songs like this and Watching The Wheels that helped me come to terms with the worse sides of John's personality. He wasn't perfect, he was just human, but he did acknowledge his mistakes and try to better himself.

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15 March 2019
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I am crazy about the piano playing on this somg, especially the runs at the end. Probably my favorite track off of the new box set is the instrumental version, where you can hear guess who? Nicky Hopkins playing away in my favorite piano style. 

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15 March 2019
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QuarryMan said
Agreed ^^ 

Back on topic, I like to see this song as part of a progression from the more misogynistic outlook of John's earlier writing (Run For Your Life , You Can't Do That ) to a more self aware point of view with this song and others like Getting Better and Woman . It's songs like this and Watching The Wheels that helped me come to terms with the worse sides of John's personality. He wasn't perfect, he was just human, but he did acknowledge his mistakes and try to better himself.

  

Indeed. That’s why it’s not fair to bash someone for past deeds when they’ve changed their thinking over time. Do we as the human race believe in redemption or not? Or is the perceived slight from the past just too great to get over? I’d like to think people can move on and live for today, as John said in Imagine . I have no doubt people today would slam John’s past. Honestly it would be ancient history. He spoke all about his thoughts and feelings, in his last interview especially. He was honest. John never proclaimed to be perfect, or someone running for office. His appeal is being human, learning and evolving like all of us. But he also had this ability to seem ethereal and wise. It’s these contradictions that make him endlessly fascinating and still hard to completely pin down.

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15 March 2019
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8That sums it up perfectly. I'm glad we now live in a world where abusive artists aren't given a pass because of their popularity, though. If an artist today was accused of what John did today, their career would probably be over unless they did a very convincing job at redemption. I truly believe John changed his ways though, particularly after 1975. This song is a testament to how much he matured as a person.

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Recently been addicted to the JL anthology version of Jealous Guy . Really good perspective on the same song.

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I learned Nicky Hopkins’s piano part a few years ago and haven’t heard the song the same since. It is such a genius arrangement that follows the progression with perfect flow. John also stands out here, with an excellent lyric and tune. He’s so great at building themes and then paying them off, which is exactly what happens during the I Began To Lose Control... section

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This is the very first outtake I ever heard of John's as it was included on a Beatles bootleg cassette ('The Sweetest Apples' - I didn't own a CD player at the time) and I was obsessed with it.

 

There was also an outtake of 'How Do You Sleep' which I still prefer to the released version.

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