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No not a mistake and the 2005 compilation set but there is new compilation with tracks remixed, remastered and better than ever before coming to mark John's 80th birthday on the 9th October. The Daily Beatle has the image, details etc but the rumoured tracklisting for now is

1. Instant Karma !
2. Cold Turkey
3. Working Class Hero
4. Isolation
5. Love
6. God
7. Power To The People
8. Imagine
9. Jealous Guy
10. Gimme Some Truth
11. How Do You Sleep?
12. Oh My Love
13. Oh Yoko!
14. Come Together (Live)
15. Angela
16. Mind Games
17. Out The Blue
18. I Know (I Know)

1. Whatever Gets You Through The Night
2. Bless You
3. #9 Dream
4. Stand By Me
5. Steel And Glass
6. Angel Baby
7. (Just Like) Starting Over
8. I’m Losing You
9. Beautiful Boy (Darling Boy)
10. Watching The Wheels
11. Woman
12. Dear Yoko
13. Every Man Has A Woman Who Loves Him
14. Nobody Told Me
15. I’m Steppin’ Out
16. Grow Old With Me
17. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)
18. Give Peace A Chance
(rumoured track list)

First off, couldn't they have bothered to find a different name? 

Second, this sounds really dull. Yes it's all remixed, has a lovely book, and best ever listening experience (what release is not?) but seriously! Another compilation! Plus there is nothing coming for the 50th POB anniversary. Sorry. There is a lovely book. I got into the Beatles due to all the lovely book reading. 

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Reports going that some of the tracks will be alternate versions. Still not sure of the point of this.

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I can see what they're doing. Would have been John's 80th birthday year but, instead, it's the 40th anniversary of his death -- the year when John's been dead longer than he was alive. It's bound to throw up more media attention latter end of the year than usual. What do you do if you're the Lennon Estate? You throw together a new "best of" and hope for a bunch of sales of the same old stuff for nostalgia's sake.

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A sad reality that John was taken so early, but so inspiring how important he is today in a whole lifetime since his passing. 

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A sad reality that John was taken so early, but so inspiring how important he is today in a whole lifetime since his passing.   

Yes. His creative output shines so bright, and his creative output is what it is. We can’t have any more than what we have. It’s one of history’s most cruellest scars, but his death is kind of like how The Beatles disbanded. It can’t help but make the subject matter even more legendary. Hard to believe he’s been gone that long when you listen to his interviews, particularly the 1980 stuff where he’s so warm and full of life.

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I kind of want this but it’s hardly essential.

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Ron Nasty said
I can see what they're doing. Would have been John's 80th birthday year but, instead, it's the 40th anniversary of his death -- the year when John's been dead longer than he was alive. It's bound to throw up more media attention latter end of the year than usual. What do you do if you're the Lennon Estate? You throw together a new "best of" and hope for a bunch of sales of the same old stuff for nostalgia's sake.

I guess I see what they're doing, but it seems a bit unnecessary. This is like the third greatest hits album released in the past decade. I think he may have more greatest hits albums than he has studio albums at this point. They could have done something more fun like remaster Plastic Ono Band or his Anthology which can only be found second hand now. 

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Yes. His creative output shines so bright, and his creative output is what it is. We can’t have any more than what we have. It’s one of history’s most cruellest scars, but his death is kind of like how The Beatles disbanded. It can’t help but make the subject matter even more legendary. Hard to believe he’s been gone that long when you listen to his interviews, particularly the 1980 stuff where he’s so warm and full of life.

An innocent person being murdered by some random guy with psychosis is not even remotely the same as a group of adults deciding they no longer want to play music together. Also, saying that us missing out on all the music he didn't make is "one of history's most cruelest scars" is really bad taste. He was murdered. His children lost their father. His wife lost her other half. He was a human being, not a music making object. Even if he had no intentions of continuing to make music, his death would be just as tragic.

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Little Piggy Dragonguy said

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I can see what they're doing. Would have been John's 80th birthday year but, instead, it's the 40th anniversary of his death -- the year when John's been dead longer than he was alive. It's bound to throw up more media attention latter end of the year than usual. What do you do if you're the Lennon Estate? You throw together a new "best of" and hope for a bunch of sales of the same old stuff for nostalgia's sake.

I guess I see what they're doing, but it seems a bit unnecessary. This is like the third greatest hits album released in the past decade. I think he may have more greatest hits albums than he has studio albums at this point. They could have done something more fun like remaster Plastic Ono Band or his Anthology which can only be found second hand now. 

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Yes. His creative output shines so bright, and his creative output is what it is. We can’t have any more than what we have. It’s one of history’s most cruellest scars, but his death is kind of like how The Beatles disbanded. It can’t help but make the subject matter even more legendary. Hard to believe he’s been gone that long when you listen to his interviews, particularly the 1980 stuff where he’s so warm and full of life.

An innocent person being murdered by some random guy with psychosis is not even remotely the same as a group of adults deciding they no longer want to play music together. Also, saying that us missing out on all the music he didn't make is "one of history's most cruelest scars" is really bad taste. He was murdered. His children lost their father. His wife lost her other half. He was a human being, not a music making object. Even if he had no intentions of continuing to make music, his death would be just as tragic.

  

I do agree but there was the addition that the fans pretty much lost John for five years when he stopped to bring up Sean and were only just getting him back when he was killed. The timing in regards to John's music and fan re-connection was therefore much worse for many. Does it make it worse overall? Not for many of us now and certainly not looking at it all now - John was a ultimately a father and husband and an ordinary man living his life happily and looking forward to the future - but certainly reading the accounts back then this was certainly a more wretched killing and loss. 

I hope that makes sense and doesn't come across as crude or taking away in any way what Yoko, Sean and Julian have had to live with then and ever since.

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Little Piggy Dragonguy said

An innocent person being murdered by some random guy with psychosis is not even remotely the same as a group of adults deciding they no longer want to play music together. 

I'm well aware of that. The end result is similar though. 'It's not exactly the same therefore it's totally different!' 
 

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Also, saying that us missing out on all the music he didn't make is "one of history's most cruelest scars" is really bad taste. He was murdered. His children lost their father. His wife lost her other half. He was a human being, not a music making object. Even if he had no intentions of continuing to make music, his death would be just as tragic.

I'm well aware of all this too, so no need to be condescending. In the comment you cite I was talking about his death in general terms. I didn't even mention the music he didn't make. I was communicating we have what we have, and we have to appreciate it.

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Timothy said

I'm well aware of all this too, so no need to be condescending. In the comment you cite I was talking about his death in general terms. I didn't even mention the music he didn't make. I was communicating we have what we have, and we have to appreciate it.

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Yes. His creative output shines so bright, and his creative output is what it is. We can’t have any more than what we have. It’s one of history’s most cruellest scars, but his death is kind of like how The Beatles disbanded. It can’t help but make the subject matter even more legendary. Hard to believe he’s been gone that long when you listen to his interviews, particularly the 1980 stuff where he’s so warm and full of life. 

I think I might have misunderstood what you were saying. I thought when you said we can't have any more than what we have you were still specifically talking about John's music. Then you followed that up talking about his death, so I thought that's what you were speaking about. Sorry about that. 

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meanmistermustard said

Little Piggy Dragonguy said

Ron Nasty said

I can see what they're doing. Would have been John's 80th birthday year but, instead, it's the 40th anniversary of his death -- the year when John's been dead longer than he was alive. It's bound to throw up more media attention latter end of the year than usual. What do you do if you're the Lennon Estate? You throw together a new "best of" and hope for a bunch of sales of the same old stuff for nostalgia's sake.

I guess I see what they're doing, but it seems a bit unnecessary. This is like the third greatest hits album released in the past decade. I think he may have more greatest hits albums than he has studio albums at this point. They could have done something more fun like remaster Plastic Ono Band or his Anthology which can only be found second hand now. 

Timothy said

Yes. His creative output shines so bright, and his creative output is what it is. We can’t have any more than what we have. It’s one of history’s most cruellest scars, but his death is kind of like how The Beatles disbanded. It can’t help but make the subject matter even more legendary. Hard to believe he’s been gone that long when you listen to his interviews, particularly the 1980 stuff where he’s so warm and full of life.

An innocent person being murdered by some random guy with psychosis is not even remotely the same as a group of adults deciding they no longer want to play music together. Also, saying that us missing out on all the music he didn't make is "one of history's most cruelest scars" is really bad taste. He was murdered. His children lost their father. His wife lost her other half. He was a human being, not a music making object. Even if he had no intentions of continuing to make music, his death would be just as tragic.

I do agree but there was the addition that the fans pretty much lost John for five years when he stopped to bring up Sean and were only just getting him back when he was killed. The timing in regards to John's music and fan re-connection was therefore much worse for many. Does it make it worse overall? Not for many of us now and certainly not looking at it all now - John was a ultimately a father and husband and an ordinary man living his life happily and looking forward to the future - but certainly reading the accounts back then this was certainly a more wretched killing and loss. 

I hope that makes sense and doesn't come across as crude or taking away in any way what Yoko, Sean and Julian have had to live with then and ever since.

No, that definitely does make a lot of sense and I've never thought about it like that. 

The Jonas Brothers got back together when I was in high school and were supposed to release a new album and have a tour, but ended up not releasing the album and cancelling the tour. It was definitely like "mourning" them a second time after them being disbanded for so long. Very tragic for me at the time, and they didn't even die. 

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What's the point in another John Lennon compilation? We've had thirty-two already, and we don't need another one. True. Nobody needs another version of Pepper/The White Album /Abbey Road /*Anniversary/remastered edition of classic album* but we still spend our money and marvel at the way we can now hear Ringo sniff just before the drums come in on A Day In The Life .

There's obviously a market for this kind of thing, otherwise record companies wouldn't bother.

For new John Lennon fans (I'm sure they exist) the cheaper versions will be a useful way to dip their toe into the water. My Lennon compilation is the Legend one that came out in about 1997. 

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Aren't compilation albums pointless now cause we can just sort the songs on our own?

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Yeah I don't know many people who still buy albums. Most people have spotify or youtube premium or apple music and have no reason to. 

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The appeal for these is that they are new remixes but that is then down to those who care that 'Instant Karma ' etc is different and even then if they notice; those who don't and/or stream won't be that bothered. 

  

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Yeah I don't know many people who still buy albums. Most people have spotify or youtube premium or apple music and have no reason to. 

  

Maybe I'm showing my age, but I still prefer buying physical music to downloading.paul-mccartney-thumb_gif

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What I don’t understand is why every single new Beatles-related release has to have five versions and one version with a book that costs 80-100 dollars or more.

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What I don’t understand is why every single new Beatles-related release has to have five versions and one version with a book that costs 80-100 dollars or more.

  

Most releases that come out now ave multiple versions tho the older reissues and artists do seem to have even more. Probably to bulk up sales and give collectors a cash clear-out if they want them all. 

To be fair to Yoko, John's releases have been far more affordable than Paul's.

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Yeah I don't know many people who still buy albums. Most people have spotify or youtube premium or apple music and have no reason to. 

  

I have physical releases for things I really love mostly for display purposes. I hope it's always an option. 

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JW OBoogie said

Little Piggy Dragonguy said

Yeah I don't know many people who still buy albums. Most people have spotify or youtube premium or apple music and have no reason to. 

  

Maybe I'm showing my age, but I still prefer buying physical music to downloading.paul-mccartney-thumb_gif

  

I do too, and I'm of the younger generation.  I'm not a fan of using streaming services unless I'm using them to discover new artists which I then buy physical copies of their albums to listen to if I end up enjoying them. 

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