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If John was here today...
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He and Yoko would go on tour (possibly world tour) in early 1981 to promote Double Fantasy , although I doubt the Milk And Honey tracks would get released. Free As A Bird ,  Real Love and Now And Then are recorded and become tracks on his following albums.

There’s a problem with that. You see, after The Beatles split up, John only played a handful of live performances, so it’d be wrong to assume he’d go on a tour for the album if he lived. If he were to go on tour to promote the album, he would’ve not been in New York at the time and it’s very clear he didn’t want to tour for the album.

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HMBeatlesfan said

SgtPeppersBulldog said
He and Yoko would go on tour (possibly world tour) in early 1981 to promote Double Fantasy , although I doubt the Milk And Honey tracks would get released. Free As A Bird ,  Real Love and Now And Then are recorded and become tracks on his following albums.

There’s a problem with that. You see, after The Beatles split up, John only played a handful of live performances, so it’d be wrong to assume he’d go on a tour for the album if he lived. If he were to go on tour to promote the album, he would’ve not been in New York at the time and it’s very clear he didn’t want to tour for the album.  

Actually, he was planning a tour for the next year.

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@HMBeatlesfan said

@SgtPeppersBulldog said
He and Yoko would go on tour (possibly world tour) in early 1981 to promote Double Fantasy , although I doubt the Milk And Honey tracks would get released. Free As A Bird ,  Real Love and Now And Then are recorded and become tracks on his following albums.

There’s a problem with that. You see, after The Beatles split up, John only played a handful of live performances, so it’d be wrong to assume he’d go on a tour for the album if he lived. If he were to go on tour to promote the album, he would’ve not been in New York at the time and it’s very clear he didn’t want to tour for the album.  

There’s a problem with your assessment, @HMBeatlesfan: John was talking about touring at the time of his death. Asked about touring in David Sheff’s Playboy interview, and whether he’d consider it, John replied:

I wouldn’t have believed it a month ago. But then I thought, “What the hell, why not?” If it’s enjoyable and if it doesn’t become something that one doesn’t want to do, ’cause it’s nice to get up and sing sometimes, like it’s nice to make music. I don’t want to get mixed up in deals and business and spin-offs and pressures, though, because I don’t need that anymore. Once was enough. But sure, I’d like to get up on stage with Yoko and a good band and play these songs, and really do ’em, because the band’s hot as shit. They just came off the album and they were all good — we’ve got the good feeling among ourselves. So it would be great. I’m just a little nervous about all that goes on around it. But I think we can probably handle it a bit better this time.

The day after John’s birthday, 9 October, Fred Seaman told the press that John was planning to tour the UK, Japan and United States the following year. During his BBC interview on the 6th, John would talk about a trip to England the following year.

More details have emerged about a possible 1981 tour since John’s death.

It was to be known as the “One World, One People” tour, and was planned for around May 1981. To those places already suggested by Seaman before John’s death, it has been said he was considering South Africa, Australia and Canada to the itinerary. John had the band until the end of January, as they were due to be finishing off Milk And Honey  during that month. According to guitarist Earl Slick, John was increasingly talking touring during the August and September sessions, and was talking to all the main Double Fantasy  musicians about their availability by the end of September.

Roadie Henry Smith tells a convincing story of being employed as road manager and de-facto booking agent, on a 5% cut. Smith says he had the idea of using video during the shows, and brought in Mark Fisher to help with the staging. John was discussing performing rearranged versions of earlier songs, including Beatles songs, with producer Jack Douglas.

While John may have got cold feet and kiboshed the tour before a single date was announced, but at the time of his death a major, and possibly very innovative, 1981 tour seems to have been well into the planning stages.

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Thanks guys, I had no idea he was actually planning one, but why the hell would John say this in a Playboy magazine because isn’t Playboy a magazine that displays naked women.

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While Playboy is/was a magazine that displays naked women, it has always been considered one of the most important American publications for its journalism and interviews. Nearly every major figure in American life over the last 70 years, from Presidents to entertainers, including all the other Beatles, has been interviewed by Playboy.

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Reviving an old thread, but I thought this might be of interest to some. https://www.vanityfair.com/cul…..-70-201009

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I stopped reading when I got here…

And from there, there’s no stopping him: the stream of consciousness flows as freely as it did in the days of In His Own Write, with Lennonesque aperçus on everything from his Club Penguin addiction (“I’ve 16 Puffles in me igloo, man”)

Ummmmmm….. a-hard-days-night-paul-10a-hard-days-night-paul-10a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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I stopped reading when I got to this.

Hung on a hook nailed to one of the trees is a handmade sign bearing the words “old mclennon’s swimmin hole.”

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Seriously though, it’s a very interesting imagining. How I wish it were true.

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I stopped reading when I got to this.

Hung on a hook nailed to one of the trees is a handmade sign bearing the words “old mclennon’s swimmin hole.”

SHIPPERS UNITE a-hard-days-night-john-3
a-hard-days-night-george-10  

Seriously though, it’s a very interesting imagining. How I wish it were true.

This almost made me spit out my delicious pumpkin spice latte. Thank you for the much needed laugh @Beatlebug!!! a-hard-days-night-george-9

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If the great man was here today, I’d love to see John,Paul and Ringo performing on stage,even if it was just once, for me and all the other Beatles fans who weren’t lucky enough to be around to see it at the height of Beatlemania

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Still writing the words to the sermon that no one will hear......

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If John was here today, I’d love to see him on twitter. He’d rip Trump and others apart and generally be hilarious.

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I've been up on the mountain, and I've seen his wondrous grace,
I've sat there on the barstool and I've looked him in the face.
He seemed a little haggard, but it did not slow him down,
he was humming to the neon of the universal sound. 

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I’d also love to talk to him about when he said that the Stones were copying the Beatles,with the Let It Bleed album, dressing up as wizards on Their Satanic Majesties request,which John said was basically a rip off of Sgt Pepper

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Father McKenzie said
I’d also love to talk to him about when he said that the Stones were copying the Beatles,with the Let It Bleed album, dressing up as wizards on Their Satanic Majesties request,which John said was basically a rip off of Sgt Pepper   

There’s a whole bunch of cases where this happened. For example, Paint It Black ripped off Norwegian Wood in its use of the sitar, As Tears Go By copied Yesterday in using a string quartet, Satanic Majesties was a big Pepper rip off, You Can’t Always Get What You Want was a rip off of Hey Jude (The Stones attempt to create a similar singalong). Not to mention how they basically based their entire identity on not being the Beatles, whilst musically copying them at every term. Man, I love the Stones but they were so much better when they were doing their own thing. 

On topic, I would just speak to him about his writing process as i find that absolutely fascinating.

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…I can imagine him having designed websites like this https://www.thoraxcorp.com/ back in the nineties a-hard-days-night-john-6

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– that literally sounds like something from In His Own Write

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He’d probably have something to say about the police rn.

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I wouldn’t want to speak to John at all.

“Hey John, remember that song you did? It was really awesome!”

“What song? Oh that one! Nah that’s forgettable trash and I wrote it in two minutes. Beatles are dead, get over it…”

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Yeah, I would probably ask him something like “John, how the hell did you write Strawberry Fields Forever ” and then he’d say “stop kissing my arse”. 

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“John, I quoted you in my college admissions essay!”

“….tf why?” 

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QuarryMan said
Yeah, I would probably ask him something like “John, how the hell did you write Strawberry Fields Forever ” and then he’d say “stop kissing my arse”. 

  

Depends on his mood at the time. I could also see him saying “with a pencil and piece of paper.”

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I would say, John, need anybody to give backing vocals to your latest song?

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