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15 January 2013
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RunForYourLife
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- 1963: "Imagine I'm in love with you, it's easy 'cos I know..." 

- 1971: "Imagine there's no Heaven, it's easy if you try..."

 

15 January 2013
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Oh my goodness! a-hard-days-night-john-3  No, I hadn't noticed that before. Wow...Just, wow...

15 January 2013
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It was pointed out in a book i read a few years ago, might have been The Complete Guide to music of the Beatles by John Robertson but i'd have to check. (Edit: No it wasnt, it is mentioned in 'A Hard Day's Write' by Steve Turner)

John was always 'borrowing' lines from elsewhere as did everyone else for example George from James Taylor (Something In The Way She Moves ) and The Merseys (Sorrow).

There is a song called 'Remember (Walking in the Sand)' by the Shangri-Las (a 60's girl group best known for Leader of the Pack for those who are too young to have heard of them) which has the lyrics

Whatever happened to
The boy that I once knew?
The boy who said he'd be true
Oh, what will happen to
The life I gave to you?
What will I do with it now?

which have a strong resemblence to John's Free As A Bird

Whatever happened to
the lives that we once knew?
Can we really live without each other?

You can even fit the words from both into the melody of both.

Was blown away when i noticed that.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

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15 January 2013
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meanmistermustard said 
There is a song called 'Remember (Walking in the Sand)' by the Shangri-Las (a 60's girl group best known for Leader of the Pack for those who are too young to have heard of them) which has the lyrics

Whatever happened to
The boy that I once knew?
The boy who said he'd be true
Oh, what will happen to
The life I gave to you?
What will I do with it now?

which have a strong resemblence to John's Free As A Bird

Whatever happened to
the lives that we once knew?
Can we really live without each other?

I think these lyrics were added by the rest of the Beatles...

Sont des mots qui vont très bien ensemble.

15 January 2013
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"Whatever happened to the lives that we once knew" was John, and Paul wrote the rest of the middle eight. 

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15 January 2013
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unknown said
"Whatever happened to the lives that we once knew" was John, and Paul wrote the rest of the middle eight. 

The original melody and the "Whatever happened to the lives that we once knew" line are still incredibly similar.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of "self" to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

15 January 2013
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Yeah, they are. 

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16 January 2013
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"Free As A Bird" always reminded me a bit of "Sleepwalk" by Santo & Johnny.

But back to the topic at hand, it wasn't totally unknown for John to pilfer from himself.

"I Feel Fine" became "Day Tripper" and the chord progression in "It's Only Love" became "Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite". "I'm A Loser" and "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" both share the G-D-F-G bit too, though the latter adds more onto it.

The "Living is easy with eyes closed..." bit in "Strawberry Fields Forever" is also similar to the "But I know you won't leave me 'cause you told me so..." bit in "Bad To Me".

 

Only so many chords in music, I suppose.

17 January 2013
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I've already noticed before since I heard The Beatles first before John Lennon. Lots of stuff were "re-used" by the Beatles like diamond ring, see how they run and etc.

18 January 2013
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I'm very bad with this, I hardly ever notice these things. Funny though.

21 January 2013
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RunForYourLife said
- 1963: "Imagine I'm in love with you, it's easy 'cos I know..." 

- 1971: "Imagine there's no Heaven, it's easy if you try..."

 

 

Paul mentions that in the book Many Years From Now as well.

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23 January 2013
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RunForYourLife said
- 1963: "Imagine I'm in love with you, it's easy 'cos I know..." 

- 1971: "Imagine there's no Heaven, it's easy if you try..."

 

 

Um... what's that first song?

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23 January 2013
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Egroeg Evoli said

RunForYourLife said
- 1963: "Imagine I'm in love with you, it's easy 'cos I know..." 

- 1971: "Imagine there's no Heaven, it's easy if you try..."

 

 

Um... what's that first song?

Been away to the Isle of Wight for a few days but now I'm back again. The first song is the b-side to "She Loves You", also on "Past Masters", and is called "I'll Get You".

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