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18 June 2014 - 10.32pm

This article claims that John, who once met with four little grey men at the Dakota, was the mouthpiece for a race of peace-loving aliens, and that Chapman was enlisted by a warring group who wished to stamp out the other aliens' message of peace and love. Could this be true?

http://www.azcentral.com/story...../10661635/

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18 June 2014 - 10.38pm

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18 June 2014 - 10.44pm

I knew it all along!

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18 June 2014 - 10.46pm

Interesting article, but this is PID level.

Yoko's quote doesn't help does it? a-hard-days-night-john-7

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18 June 2014 - 11.01pm

Expert Textpert said
This article claims that John, who once met with four little grey men at the Dakota, was the mouthpiece for a race of peace-loving aliens, and that Chapman was enlisted by a warring group who wished to stamp out the other aliens' message of peace and love. Could this be true?

http://www.azcentral.com/story...../10661635/

Eh... no. I could, however, believe that Yoko is an alien. Just listen to "Don't Worry Kyoko" and all will be clear. Perhaps her alien friends actually do enjoy listening to that, and maybe on other planets screeching like a cat and braying like a goat is pop music.

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18 June 2014 - 11.15pm

Expert Textpert said
Could this be true?

Yes. Next?

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18 June 2014 - 11.17pm

I can only hope that its some kind of troll site looking to generate comments and stir up feedback because if a human is believing this then god help any alien(s) that come to our planet. Actually forget the aliens, god help the human race.

Sometimes things come your way that make you wonder why we are on this planet.

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Could this be true?

 No!

Next.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

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18 June 2014 - 11.29pm

meanmistermustard said

Expert Textpert said
Could this be true?

 No!

Next.

Yes! If for every reality there is an alternate reality, then that's complete fact in one of them. Complete bullocks in this reality, but could it be true? Too damn right!!!

Next?

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18 June 2014 - 11.29pm

I think it's as plausible an explanation as any. I would love to know what John and the grey men discussed, and if they drew up some kind of contract.

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18 June 2014 - 11.50pm

I can only hope you are all on the take over this. This is where i get out.

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19 June 2014 - 12.53am

Expert Textpert said
This article claims that John, who once met with four little grey men at the Dakota, was the mouthpiece for a race of peace-loving aliens, and that Chapman was enlisted by a warring group who wished to stamp out the other aliens' message of peace and love. Could this be true?

http://www.azcentral.com/story...../10661635/

To tackle this question seriously would require only those who in fact believe in Aliens to begin with to take it on, for if you aren't a "believer" you should heed the advice that some have suggested here, "Next", as your replies would be completely biased by your own "belief" or, more accurately, "non-belief" predispositions.

 

I, for one, am a BELIEVER of countless others existing beyond our own orbit and would call myself a "veteran UFO researcher" just as the article by Bang Showbiz linked by Expert Textpert portrays Luckman to be.  I have been interested in Aliens/UFOs since before I even listened to The Beatles and still pursue the subject passionately to this day.  My own research has lead me to conclude that there's far too much evidence on our own planet here over the ages to believe that's there's absolutely no possible way that we haven't been (and still are) visited by living entities from other worlds.

 

Now having said this, I don't believe that the article here is at all "true" as an accurate description of why John was killed.  I do, however, believe this to be yet another misinformation campaign to provide a smokescreen to why John was really killed.  It wreaks of misinformation so absolutely "unbelievable" that people will automatically swallow the "official" story and dismiss ANY alternate theories as to why John may have indeed been targeted by somebody else who wielded the asshole directly responsible for a weapon by their own hand.  That's an entirely different topic that has much more supporting evidence and is most certainly taboo on any "well-respected" media outlet.

 

My own take on John's well-publicised UFO encounter in Manhattan is that John was in fact under surveillance by a very influential world power (unknown to just about everyone else including Nixon himself).  John's description of the encounter doesn't exactly match up to most other "believable" UFO encounters.  It sounds more to me that he's describing a high tech surveillance device that was flown by remote.  Yes, it was an "Unidentified Flying Object" but not of the Alien variety by the sounds of his recollections, but something more of a top secret type of device following and gathering intelligence on his daily activities.  John Lennon disclosed to some that were close to him that he felt as though he was being followed and watched throughout the 'Dakota Years', he very likely was and not only by just the press.

 

There's too many unanswered questions as to why that asshole did what he did, or why he said he did what he did, but to completely accept the "official" story and not give alternate theories (even this one!) the time of day would be most naïve, in my opinion.  John Lennon was honest to a fault, and he didn't need to fabricate stories like the one he told about his UFO experience to garner more attention, we know his word is good and if you want "the truth" behind "why?" he was killed, his UFO encounter is a good place to start your own investigation and not to be so easily dismissed as this article has had some of you do all ready...:-)     

 

 

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19 June 2014 - 1.26am

Expert Textpert said
This article claims that John, who once met with four little grey men at the Dakota, was the mouthpiece for a race of peace-loving aliens, and that Chapman was enlisted by a warring group who wished to stamp out the other aliens' message of peace and love. Could this be true?

http://www.azcentral.com/story...../10661635/

Yes.  It's absolutely true.

 

Also, Paul is dead, Elvis is alive, the moon landing was fake, and Kurt Cobain was murdered.

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19 June 2014 - 2.28am

Billy Rhythm said

Expert Textpert said
This article claims that John, who once met with four little grey men at the Dakota, was the mouthpiece for a race of peace-loving aliens, and that Chapman was enlisted by a warring group who wished to stamp out the other aliens' message of peace and love. Could this be true?

http://www.azcentral.com/story...../10661635/

To tackle this question seriously would require only those who in fact believe in Aliens to begin with to take it on, for if you aren't a "believer" you should heed the advice that some have suggested here, "Next", as your replies would be completely biased by your own "belief" or, more accurately, "non-belief" predispositions.

I, for one, am a BELIEVER of countless others existing beyond our own orbit and would call myself a "veteran UFO researcher" just as the article by Bang Showbiz linked by Expert Textpert portrays Luckman to be.  I have been interested in Aliens/UFOs since before I even listened to The Beatles and still pursue the subject passionately to this day.  My own research has lead me to conclude that there's far too much evidence on our own planet here over the ages to believe that's there's absolutely no possible way that we haven't been (and still are) visited by living entities from other worlds.

Now having said this, I don't believe that the article here is at all "true" as an accurate description of why John was killed.  I do, however, believe this to be yet another misinformation campaign to provide a smokescreen to why John was really killed.  It wreaks of misinformation so absolutely "unbelievable" that people will automatically swallow the "official" story and dismiss ANY alternate theories as to why John may have indeed been targeted by somebody else who wielded the asshole directly responsible for a weapon by their own hand.  That's an entirely different topic that has much more supporting evidence and is most certainly taboo on any "well-respected" media outlet.

My own take on John's well-publicised UFO encounter in Manhattan is that John was in fact under surveillance by a very influential world power (unknown to just about everyone else including Nixon himself).  John's description of the encounter doesn't exactly match up to most other "believable" UFO encounters.  It sounds more to me that he's describing a high tech surveillance device that was flown by remote.  Yes, it was an "Unidentified Flying Object" but not of the Alien variety by the sounds of his recollections, but something more of a top secret type of device following and gathering intelligence on his daily activities.  John Lennon disclosed to some that were close to him that he felt as though he was being followed and watched throughout the 'Dakota Years', he very likely was and not only by just the press.

There's too many unanswered questions as to why that asshole did what he did, or why he said he did what he did, but to completely accept the "official" story and not give alternate theories (even this one!) the time of day would be most naïve, in my opinion.  John Lennon was honest to a fault, and he didn't need to fabricate stories like the one he told about his UFO experience to garner more attention, we know his word is good and if you want "the truth" behind "why?" he was killed, his UFO encounter is a good place to start your own investigation and not to be so easily dismissed as this article has had some of you do all ready...:-)

First, I have to admit I'm "basically" of the same belief.  While I'm not an active UFO/Alien researcher, to outright dismiss the concept that we're not alone in the universe (or to stand fast on the notion that we are) borders on the ridiculous.  But that would deviate into dogma arguments and I'm not about to go there.  Having said that, I wish people (like Mr. Luckman) could discontinue using phrases like "little grey aliens."  If you wish to be taken seriously, consider using terminology that isn't instantly dismissed by the general public as being looney-tunes.  It may be an apt description, but if you're bent on promoting a reality, recognize the reality of how it's perceived. 

/end rant

That Ono quote stopped me:

Yoko Ono has previously stated she believes her deceased husband and his Beatles bandmates - Sir Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr and the late George Harrison - were musical 'mediums.'  She is quoted as saying: ''They were like mediums. They weren't conscious of everything they were saying, but it (the music) was coming through them.''

That lends itself to the assertion that an energy existed between the four of them that was superior to their individual talents.

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19 June 2014 - 2.30am

Necko said

Expert Textpert said
This article claims that John, who once met with four little grey men at the Dakota, was the mouthpiece for a race of peace-loving aliens, and that Chapman was enlisted by a warring group who wished to stamp out the other aliens' message of peace and love. Could this be true?

http://www.azcentral.com/story...../10661635/

Yes.  It's absolutely true.

 

Also, Paul is dead, Elvis is alive, the moon landing was fake, and Kurt Cobain was murdered.

No, he's not.  No, he's not.  No, it wasn't.  Wait...

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19 June 2014 - 3.18am

Had to be warring aliens, pissed off over "Give Peace A Chance"...peaceful aliens woulda taken him for a ride!

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19 June 2014 - 7.18am

cra said

Necko said

Expert Textpert said
This article claims that John, who once met with four little grey men at the Dakota, was the mouthpiece for a race of peace-loving aliens, and that Chapman was enlisted by a warring group who wished to stamp out the other aliens' message of peace and love. Could this be true?

http://www.azcentral.com/story...../10661635/

Yes.  It's absolutely true.

 

Also, Paul is dead, Elvis is alive, the moon landing was fake, and Kurt Cobain was murdered.

No, he's not.  No, he's not.  No, it wasn't.  Wait...

In retrospect, maybe I should have added a '/sarcasm.'

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19 June 2014 - 12.05pm

Semi-related: I just read this on the YouTube comments (yes, yes, I'm a masochist):

I used to like the Beatles, but I don't like them anymore.Their music is demonic and evil. I've read John Lennon's biography, "the lives of john lennon" by albert goldman, and in that book, it says that yoko ono went to south america to meet a witch named Lena, to make a deal with the devil for John Lennon's career. Don't believe what I'm saying? If you buy that biography, all of that stuff is mentioned on page 586.

Albert Goldman wouldn't lie. What he said about Yoko Ono was true. He was a very reliable biographer on John Lennon. According to wikipedia, (speaking of his john lennon biography), it was "a product of years of research and hundreds of interviews with many of Lennon's friends, acquaintances, servants and musicians."

Ugh.

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19 June 2014 - 12.18pm

MrMoonlight said
Semi-related: I just read this on the YouTube comments (yes, yes, I'm a masochist):

I used to like the Beatles, but I don't like them anymore.Their music is demonic and evil. I've read John Lennon's biography, "the lives of john lennon" by albert goldman, and in that book, it says that yoko ono went to south america to meet a witch named Lena, to make a deal with the devil for John Lennon's career. Don't believe what I'm saying? If you buy that biography, all of that stuff is mentioned on page 586.

Albert Goldman wouldn't lie. What he said about Yoko Ono was true. He was a very reliable biographer on John Lennon. According to wikipedia, (speaking of his john lennon biography), it was "a product of years of research and hundreds of interviews with many of Lennon's friends, acquaintances, servants and musicians."

Ugh.

Or, as Wikipedia also says, George Martin, among many others, criticised, "I think it is iniquitous that people can libel the dead. If John was alive, that book would not have come out. It is largely untrue, but, sadly, if mud is thrown it tends to stick."

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19 June 2014 - 2.46pm

Necko said

Expert Textpert said
This article claims that John, who once met with four little grey men at the Dakota, was the mouthpiece for a race of peace-loving aliens, and that Chapman was enlisted by a warring group who wished to stamp out the other aliens' message of peace and love. Could this be true?

http://www.azcentral.com/story...../10661635/

Yes.  It's absolutely true.

 

Also, Paul is dead, Elvis is alive, the moon landing was fake, and Kurt Cobain was murdered.

See, now some of those may be true.

"This Beatles talk bores me to death." --John Lennon

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19 June 2014 - 2.51pm

By the way, for those who didn't figure it out, my "could this be true" was meant to be humorous.

However, I do actually believe in non-human, non-terrestrial beings, however you may describe them--little people, faeries, spirits, interdimensional beings, aliens, etc.

That being said, I think that experience of any such beings is subjective, and cannot be objectively proven. The idea that it is a commonly known fact that "little grey men" who visited the Dakota entered into a partnership with John Lennon is obviously ridiculous.

And again, that being said--I realize that such things as UFOs or "ghosts" can be seen by more than one person, which does remove them somewhat from the realm of subjectivity....although they still cannot be objectively proven.

"This Beatles talk bores me to death." --John Lennon

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