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Did Elvis Presley hate John Lennon?
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Did you know that ordering your martini cocktail "shaken, not stirred" doesn't make you James Bond?

Did you know that snorting your favorite rock star's "medication" doesn't put you in the same league with him? (but you might sound like one of his skipping records when posting on a forum)   

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Wow, this is interesting, but makes sense. I have never heard about this! 

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I'm all shook up!

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The Beatles were definitely a sign of changing times and the more old-fashioned Elvis (although very progressive for his time) was left in the dust.  I can see why he was upset.

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"Elvis liked all the Beatles, but John was his favorite. Years later John had Elvis' hotline number, which very few people did. Elvis later told me that in the seventies, when the U. S. Immigration and Naturalization Service sought to deport John...he advised John to make a public statement against drugs, which he did." --Larry Geller

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Ron Nasty said (on 7 January 2013)

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meanmistermustard said  John was right when he said that Elvis died when he went into the Army.

Actually, I think the quote was slightly different -- and so had a much broader and more profound import:

"Rock died when Elvis joined the Army."

The quote was, not sure from exactly which interview (maybe the Playboy), but one of the 1980 interviews:

"Up until Elvis joined the army, I thought it was beautiful music and Elvis was for me and my generation what the Beatles were to the '60s. But after he went into the army, I think they cut "les bollocks" off. They not only shaved his hair off but I think they shaved between his legs, too. He played some good stuff after the army, but it was never quite the same, It was like something happened to him psychologically. Elvis really died the day he joined the army. That's when they killed him, and the rest was a living death."

So, the quote was specifically about Elvis and not rock'n'roll in general, though he had similar views about what happened to that early period of rock'n'roll.

It's interesting to discover that John was offering this same view on Elvis, minus the death parallels, to French television in 1975. It can be found here, though you need to tune out the translator.

It shows John had a pretty consistent view on Elvis' career during the last years of his life, a view that wasn't changed and made more sympathetic following the death of Elvis.

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"Elvis liked all the Beatles, but John was his favorite. Years later John had Elvis' hotline number, which very few people did. Elvis later told me that in the seventies, when the U. S. Immigration and Naturalization Service sought to deport John...he advised John to make a public statement against drugs, which he did." --Larry Geller

  

Just curoius...how was that public statement done? ... in interviews, or newspaper, or press conference...? 

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I believe it was something he said in court during his immigration hearing, but I’m not sure.

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It is amazing to me that John Lennon immediately addressed Elvis' major issue at their meeting, which was, in effect, how did he lose his clout?  I see that as pure Lennon -- getting to the guts of the matter with no delay.  I can only imagine that this had a significant effect on Elvis, who was looking for ways to increase his presence, such as by performing opera, which he was not able to do because of the machinations of Col. Parker.  So, no, I do not think Elvis hated the Beatles. 

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I don’t think Elvia hated the Beatles but I’d imagine he was envious of their success and popularity, mainly as he was wasting away in a mansion making crap Run Of The Mill films no one carried about, miles away from the actual fans. It must have played in his head when seeing The Beatles out there being hero worshipped at every turn. 

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"Elvis liked all the Beatles, but John was his favorite. Years later John had Elvis' hotline number, which very few people did. Elvis later told me that in the seventies, when the U. S. Immigration and Naturalization Service sought to deport John...he advised John to make a public statement against drugs, which he did." --Larry Geller

  

Even if Elvis hated John I’d still be able to put that aside, but this makes me happy. John and Elvis are two titans of music, so even this little encounter shows they got on well enough more than I thought. 

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Wow, this is interesting, but makes sense. I have never heard about this! 

  

Because these people are clueless....Elvis Popularity "went down"...LMFAO... Elvis had a no.1 album in 1965..and a worldwide no.1 single that had nothing to do with the album, also *65. Btw, it was in top ten for a month and a half in the US. Elvis won a Grammy for an album 1967. Elvis had the no. 1 tv show in 1968. Elvis had sold-out concerts in 69. Elvis sold out three shows in the Houston Astro Dome in 1970. Beatles biggest concert, 55400 in 65...Elvis' was 66000+ in 75.

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Ron Nasty said

Ron Nasty said (on 7 January 2013)

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meanmistermustard said  John was right when he said that Elvis died when he went into the Army.

Actually, I think the quote was slightly different -- and so had a much broader and more profound import:

"Rock died when Elvis joined the Army."

The quote was, not sure from exactly which interview (maybe the Playboy), but one of the 1980 interviews:

"Up until Elvis joined the army, I thought it was beautiful music and Elvis was for me and my generation what the Beatles were to the '60s. But after he went into the army, I think they cut "les bollocks" off. They not only shaved his hair off but I think they shaved between his legs, too. He played some good stuff after the army, but it was never quite the same, It was like something happened to him psychologically. Elvis really died the day he joined the army. That's when they killed him, and the rest was a living death."

So, the quote was specifically about Elvis and not rock'n'roll in general, though he had similar views about what happened to that early period of rock'n'roll.

It's interesting to discover that John was offering this same view on Elvis, minus the death parallels, to French television in 1975. It can be found here, though you need to tune out the translator.

It shows John had a pretty consistent view on Elvis' career during the last years of his life, a view that wasn't changed and made more sympathetic following the death of Elvis.

  

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Custom made diamond-encrusted pendant....he may have criticized Elvis' varied music styles, but obviously something stuck.  Btw, lots of Elvis fans "have a period or style choice".

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Yes, my favorite Elvis decade happens to be the 70's. To each his own. John was a big Elvis fan until the day he died. He even talked about his fantasy of producing an Elvis album in the 70's (he was too afraid to approach him about it).

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May also come from the 1965 playboy interview the Beatles did.

http://www.beatlesinterviews.o......int2.html

PLAYBOY: "Speaking of fave raves, why do you think the rock 'n roll phenomenon is bigger in England than in America?"

JOHN: "Is it?"

PAUL: "Yes. You see, in England... after us... you have thousands of groups coming out everywhere, but in America they've just sort of had the same groups going for ages. Some have made it and some haven't, but there aren't really any new ones. If we'd been over there instead of over here, there probably would have been the same upsurge over there. Our road manager made an interesting point the other day about this difference in America. In America the people who are big stars are not our age. There's nobody who's really a big star around our age. Possibly it may seem like a small point, but there's no conscription... no draft... here. In America, we used to hear about somebody like Elvis, who was a very big star and then suddenly he was off to the Army."

JOHN: "And the Everly Brothers."

PAUL: "Yes, the Everly Brothers as well went into the Army at the height of their fame. And the Army seems to do something to singers. It may make them think that what they're playing is stupid and childish. Or it may make them want to change their style, and consequently they may not be as popular when they come out of the Army. It may also make people forget them, and consequently they may have a harder job getting back on top when they get out. But here, of course, we don't have that problem."

 

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From an interview where John discusses Elvis in the 70s:

I’d like to see him in Vegas ’cause that’s where he’s supposed to be at home. But I’d be embarrassed if they said, “And there in the audience is John Lennon .” I’d hate it. I’m dying to see him.

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From an interview where John discusses Elvis in the 70s:

I’d like to see him in Vegas ’cause that’s where he’s supposed to be at home. But I’d be embarrassed if they said, “And there in the audience is John Lennon .” I’d hate it. I’m dying to see him.

https://www.spin.com/2019/10/a.....Rz3Eq5Hau0

  

Yep. I think the childhood admiration of Elvis never left John. It’s a huge part of his life and an inspiration.

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An interesting contrast to the statement that “rock died when Elvis joined the army.” This shows that decades after Elvis joined the army he was “dying to see him.”

Many people changed their opinions of Elvis in the 70s when he enjoyed a resurgence in popularity.

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Oh sure, on one level the admiration never goes away even after fanship cools - like, I myself might jump at a (convenient and economical) chance to see the Stones, even though they're 5 decades past their peak. They're living legends, as was E in the 70s. I can easily imagine John enthusiastic about seeing Elvis live, even if he disliked all of his post-50s work...which surely wasn't the case.

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Elvis also recorded some of his best songs in the 70s, in my opinion.

In the 50s he was cutting edge, blending country and R & B.

In the 60s his voice was in top form. He did some great gospel recordings but he was also locked into doing the movies/pop music soundtracks. 

In the late 60s/70s he came back full force and did some great live performances and also recorded lots of good rock music with a country influence, more gospel, as well as some easy listening type things.

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