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2 July 2010
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Joe
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Attention people who remember the early 1970s!

I've been doing a bit of research into the Imagine songs, and found this on the <sarcasm>ever-reliable</sarcasm> Wikipedia:

"Lennon's dig at US President Richard Nixon, referring to him in the lyrics of the song as "Tricky Dicky," proved to be increasingly relevant after the song's release, when in 1972 the Watergate scandal erupted. "Tricky Dicky" became a popular nickname for Nixon during the Watergate hearings, and came into widespread usage."

Wasn't Nixon widely known as Tricky Dicky prior to Watergate? Otherwise how would anyone have known that Lennon was referring to him in Gimme Some Truth? Wikipedia seems to imply that Lennon popularised the term, but I'm pretty sure that can't be the case. Anyone know?

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2 July 2010
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Joe said:

Attention people who remember the early 1970s!

I've been doing a bit of research into the Imagine songs, and found this on the <sarcasm>ever-reliable</sarcasm> Wikipedia:

"Lennon's dig at US President Richard Nixon, referring to him in the lyrics of the song as "Tricky Dicky," proved to be increasingly relevant after the song's release, when in 1972 the Watergate scandal erupted. "Tricky Dicky" became a popular nickname for Nixon during the Watergate hearings, and came into widespread usage."

Wasn't Nixon widely known as Tricky Dicky prior to Watergate? Otherwise how would anyone have known that Lennon was referring to him in Gimme Some Truth? Wikipedia seems to imply that Lennon popularised the term, but I'm pretty sure that can't be the case. Anyone know?


He indeed referred to him as Tricky Dicky before Watergate. Something with a reserve act, I'll never know.

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2 July 2010
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I thought it was just Tricky Dick.

Edit: Here we go - 1950 Senate race from the same reliable source!

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2 July 2010
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There's also Philip Roth's 1971 novel "Our Gang", featuring president "Tricky Dixon"

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2 July 2010
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I seem to remember my parents referring to him as Tricky Dick prior to Watergate.

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3 July 2010
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Cool, that's good enough for me. Thanks all.

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5 July 2010
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Helen Gahagan Douglas used that name for Nixon in his 1950 Senate race.  Two decades before John Lennon used it.

That's not to say that John didn't popularize its use.

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The Hair musical which came out in 1967-1968 had a song called Initials which was altered I believe for the Australian production in 1969 to go this way:

Tricky Dick took the IRT
Down to Wall St USA
When he got there what did he see?
LBJ on LSD!
LBJ, IRT
USA, LSD
LSD, LBJ
FBI, CIA
FBI, CIA
LSD, Tricky Dick!

That's how I heard it on the Australian cast recording record. My parents had a weird record collection.

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