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John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band
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Von Bontee
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12 September 2012 - 10.59pm

Well, Ringo hasn't had a true hit single in, what, 30 years?

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
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The Walrus
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12 September 2012 - 11.24pm

I have heard Photograph a few times, notably first thing a few days ago.

And I neeeeeeeeed her all the time

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Von Bontee
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12 September 2012 - 11.33pm

Haven't heard that in awhile...someday I really need to find that Ringo best-of that Zig recommended awhile back.

Damn, way off-topic and it's my fault! So, has anyone seen the "Classic Albums" episode regarding JL/POB?

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
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12 September 2012 - 11.59pm

Ive heard It Dont Come Easy on the radio before, tho it was part of a beatles solo double (cant remember the other song tho).

 

Classic Albums JL/POB is on Sky Arts occasionally tho i havent seen it as is some Bed In documentary and the NYC concert which is fabulous until Yoko starts. I want to hear John sing clearly not under Yoko's wailing, ruined a great show.

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13 September 2012 - 11.44am

Von Bontee said
Haven't heard that in awhile...someday I really need to find that Ringo best-of that Zig recommended awhile back.

Damn, way off-topic and it's my fault! So, has anyone seen the "Classic Albums" episode regarding JL/POB?

I did, it's actually very good.

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Von Bontee
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13 September 2012 - 2.47pm

Yeah, I like it a lot. (Love that whole "Classic Albums" series in fact, the ones I've seen.) It's too bad there was no existing performing/recording footage of that John/Ringo/Klaus trio (with or without Yoko.)

I appreciate Yoko more than most folks, but I agree with MeanMM about that NYC concert recording (and video.) Giving her a specific number of her own so she can do her thing is fine by me. Allowing her to ululate incessantly without regard while somebody else is trying to sing a SONG = not so fine.

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
-- Paul McCartney

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13 September 2012 - 9.21pm

Von Bontee said
Haven't heard that in awhile...someday I really need to find that Ringo best-of that Zig recommended awhile back.

Damn, way off-topic and it's my fault! So, has anyone seen the "Classic Albums" episode regarding JL/POB?

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28 May 2013 - 10.37am

i can´t believe it nobody had mentioned MOther, is such a great song, The Song of the album.

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fabfouremily
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28 May 2013 - 3.23pm

^^ It's very raw, and I like that now even though at first it was too hard to take (and sometimes still is). It's like he's had the PS therapy and now he just wants to let it out and say whatever he has had bubbling away inside of him for a quarter of a century, and that comes through enormously. It's the little boy that never went away inside of him talking, and it's lovely, but very sad. It was one of the first JL solo songs that I listened to and it put me off listening to any more for a while because I thought it'd all have a similar tone, but I was wrong. I listen to it rarely, but I love 'Mother'.

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31 May 2013 - 11.23pm

I think this is an amazing album, and one of my favourite ex-Beatle recordings... it's John at his rawest, and probably the most stripped-down album Phil Spector ever produced.   

There are several excellent tracks, with the best being "God" (great piano by Billy Preston), although this song offended George Harrison so much that he refused to allow another stand-out song from the album ("Love") be used in one his "Hand-Made Films" movies many years later.  

I have to admit the shrillness of "Well Well Well" is pretty hard to take, but I like most of the rest of the album -- especially "Working Class Hero" and "Remember", in addition to the two tracks mentioned above.   

Overall a fabulous album, and so different from anything The Beatles had released.

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21 June 2013 - 10.12am

"REMEMBER" is my all time favourite Lennon solo song. There's so much sonic, energy and power potential in that song, it could have been the rock'n'roll song of the seventies had John called on John Paul Jones and John Bonham for the backbeat. It's the only Lennon song I instinctively bounce up and down to. 

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21 June 2013 - 12.28pm

^ I do like that song a lot but I can't stand the ending (''the fifth of november''???). I think it could have been finished off better.

A colab between Lennon, Bonham and Jones?? Hmmm... Certainly sounds interesting... Call me biased but I don't think John ever worked with any drummer better than he did with Ringo, personally.

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21 June 2013 - 2.58pm

The fifth of november is a rhyme kids would say referring to Guy Fawkes and the whole fireworks thingy. John couldnt think of a way to end the track, remembered that and put it in. Personally i like it. As i do with this epic outtake that goes on for 9 minutes.

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21 June 2013 - 6.29pm

Fabfouremily,

I disagree with you. John could have worked with any big named drummer, or any big star for that matter. They all worshipped him. POB with Led Zep's or Motown's backbeat!! mmm mmm miam miam.

John solo recordings lack his rage and powerful figure. John relies almost exclusively on his soulful voice to get his message (?) through. It's as if Paul's ear-candy genius has dripped all over John's recording approach. 

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22 June 2013 - 3.52pm

^ You could be right there, I think though that they would have been too powerful for him. I can imagine that with Bonham on drums (amazing though he is), it could have taken the songs over a bit.

Oh, and I did know what the ''fifth of november'' meant, I just don't like how it's randomly sang at the end. Usually John's sense of humour and wittiness appeals to me but not in this instance.

Moving along in our God given ways, safety is sat by the fire/Sanctuary from these feverish smiles, left with a mark on the door.

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14 August 2013 - 8.26am

The thing I've always struggled with in regards to this album (and Imagine, to a lesser extent) is that, despite being his first proper solo album, it already sounds very un-Beatle-esque.  I mean, All Things Must Pass, McCartney and Ram all still had songs that sounded as though The Beatles could've realistically recorded them had they stayed together (and, indeed, many tracks on those albums were initially written while the group was still together), but John seems to have made an immediate clean break with his Fab Four days.  It gets easier to accept after a few years, but it's kind of jarring in those first couple years.

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30 August 2013 - 12.49pm

Duke_of_Kirkaldy said
The thing I've always struggled with in regards to this album (and Imagine, to a lesser extent) is that, despite being his first proper solo album, it already sounds very un-Beatle-esque.  I mean, All Things Must Pass, McCartney and Ram all still had songs that sounded as though The Beatles could've realistically recorded them had they stayed together (and, indeed, many tracks on those albums were initially written while the group was still together), but John seems to have made an immediate clean break with his Fab Four days.  It gets easier to accept after a few years, but it's kind of jarring in those first couple years.

Never been a problem for me after Cold Turkey and all, plus some of the songs would have fitted on Abbey Road or the White Album.

To the OP - I love this album too, I even bought it along with the 'Gimme Some Truth' box (which has every track off it) so I could get the liner notes and lyrics and play it in order as intended (yes, I know I could have ripped them off the other discs I own - but I just had to have it on the shelf 'in its own right' - no pun intended).

 

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27 March 2014 - 2.08am

Good watch on documentary making of album. Looks like Yoko was actually very helpful on this great album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JfgWul14e4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BK4C0Ny9uo

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Oyster Black Pearl
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27 March 2014 - 8.36pm

fabfouremily said
Call me biased but I don't think John ever worked with any drummer better than he did with Ringo, personally.

He worked with the great Hal Blaine on his 'Rock n Roll' album. Hal's book is a great read (if a little random in a conversational way), he says he worked with Elvis and Sinatra, but was bowled-over when he got the call to work with Lennon - he called it 'the big one'.

 

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Musketeer Gripweed
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27 March 2014 - 9.02pm

Oyster Black Pearl said

fabfouremily said
Call me biased but I don't think John ever worked with any drummer better than he did with Ringo, personally.

He worked with the great Hal Blaine on his 'Rock n Roll' album. Hal's book is a great read (if a little random in a conversational way), he says he worked with Elvis and Sinatra, but was bowled-over when he got the call to work with Lennon - he called it 'the big one'.

 

Blaine was part of the wrecking crew right?  I like how Ringo described his styles in the videos I posted above. Mentions that he plays in  the moment with the other musicians so no fills are ever the same. 

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