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It's good to know that at least the mods haven't purposefully locked them (thanks for not being sneakyjohn-lennon-salute_gif). I became quite suspicious when I saw no announcement or anything whatsoever even hinting at locking any threads, so I hope this is just some weird glitch/mistake in the system that can be fixed.

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Ron Nasty said
Nice to have a mod be honest, @Ahhh Girl. Didn't you get the mod email AG refers to, @meanmistermustard?  

Yes, I got the email. It said threads would start to be locked but Joe would be mindful of which were locked so not to upset anyone. Having been on this forum for 8 years and gotten to know him and how temperamental the forum can be, I like to think Joe would stick to that and something has gone wrong in the process. Additionally, 300+ threads have been locked and it may be that you can lock threads in various multiple ways - I don't know how it works or how Joe has done it.

So, I can come on here kicking, screaming and throwing a tantrum about how unfair, deceitful and treacherous this all is or I can wait for Joe to come on and explain what's going on. I choose the second and will do every time. 

As for saying I was basically lying to everyone on here throws my very character into question and we've been here before - I got those emails too.

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WeepingAtlasCedars said
I became quite suspicious when I saw no announcement or anything whatsoever even hinting at locking any threads

Perhaps you missed this thread  https://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/getting-better/announcement-changes-to-all-together-now/  with the word 'Announcement' in the title...  Read the bolded text about halfway through Joe's first post and his intention is pretty clear...  Should you read through the thread you'll find that this has all ready been thoroughly discussed back in March and forum members were invited to participate (which was a mistake, in my opinion)...  There's nothing sinister going on here...  just Spring Cleaning...:-)

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I wouldn't say you were lying, @meanmistermustard, just that you were extremely economical about what you knew.

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Billy Rhythm said

WeepingAtlasCedars said
I became quite suspicious when I saw no announcement or anything whatsoever even hinting at locking any threads

Perhaps you missed this thread  https://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/getting-better/announcement-changes-to-all-together-now/  with the word 'Announcement' in the title...  Read the bolded text about halfway through Joe's first post and his intention is pretty clear...  Should you read through the thread you'll find that this has all ready been thoroughly discussed back in March and forum members were invited to participate (which was a mistake, in my opinion)...  There's nothing sinister going on here...  just Spring Cleaning...:-)  

And if you read this post in that thread, @Billy Rhythm, Joe said existing threads would remain "fully open", and that he would give "fair warning" of further changes. So over half of the threads suddenly being locked is a surprise, and even the mods seem surprised that among them are threads that they were led to believe were not to be locked.

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Ron Nasty said
I wouldn't say you were lying, @meanmistermustard, just that you were extremely economical about what you knew.  

You said it was nice to have a mod being honest implying I was not which is totally untrue. Nice to see the backtracking has started already.

Threads are going to be locked, everyone should be aware of that. That was decided, due notice has been given and the process has started. The issue is that a small handful of threads out of 300+ (I think) are locked that shouldn't be. It's not that big a deal and the matter will be revolved in some way when Joe returns.

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mccartney-shrug_01_gif Maybe I should have used the word "frank" or "open" instead of "honest". AG's explanation of what is happening was just far clearer, in my opinion, and explained the situation better.

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Ah, now that I think about it : "The rest of the forum will remain fully open." meant the other sections besides ATN . Those sections will remain open so that new threads can be created.

This will all get worked out. We're ok.

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That's not the way most of us understood that statement, @Ahhh Girl. Most of us understood Joe to be talking about the ATN forum, not The Songs forum, or The Albums forum, etc. Still, I suppose it is the job of the mods to defend Joe's words, even if it involves rewriting the meaning nearly everyone took from them at the time!

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Ahhh Girl said
"The rest of the forum will remain fully open." meant the other sections besides ATN . Those sections will remain open so that new threads can be created.
 

This is how I took it as well...  The thread had deteriorated to such a point by then that he appeared to be trying to move on as scheduled...

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That's not the way most of us understood that statement, @Ahhh Girl. Most of us understood Joe to be talking about the ATN forum, not The Songs forum, or The Albums forum, etc. Still, I suppose it is the job of the mods to defend Joe's words, even if it involves rewriting the meaning nearly everyone took from them at the time!

Speak for yourself...:-)

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Billy Rhythm said

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"The rest of the forum will remain fully open." meant the other sections besides ATN . Those sections will remain open so that new threads can be created.
 

This is how I took it as well...  The thread had deteriorated to such a point by then that he appeared to be trying to move on as scheduled...

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That's not the way most of us understood that statement, @Ahhh Girl. Most of us understood Joe to be talking about the ATN forum, not The Songs forum, or The Albums forum, etc. Still, I suppose it is the job of the mods to defend Joe's words, even if it involves rewriting the meaning nearly everyone took from them at the time!

Speak for yourself...:-)  

Except, as recent comments in this thread by others show, @Billy Rhythm,  many more understood it the way I did than the way you did.

I don't pretend to speak for everyone, but yours (apart from mods) is the only voice to be raised so far that sees it the way you did.

So, speak for yourself...:)

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It was in another "paragraph" so that's why I think he was meaning the other sections of the forum.

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Ahhh Girl said
It was in another "paragraph" so that's why I think he was meaning the other sections of the forum.  

And the paragraph before it, @Ahhh Girl, was about the stopping of the creation of new threads in the ATN forum, and the paragraph after was about how existing threads in the ATN forum provided plenty of places to discuss off-topic subjects.

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Ron Nasty said

Except, as recent comments in this thread by others show, @Billy Rhythm,  many more understood it the way I did than the way you did.

I don't pretend to speak for everyone, but yours (apart from mods) is the only voice to be raised so far that sees it the way you did.
 

How about the vast majority of members here who aren't even commenting here at all?  They all "understood it the way I (you) did" as well?  Perhaps they are getting a little sick and tired of this little soap opera that should've ended long ago...  You are chastising Joe & the mods for being nice enough to inform us in advance of their intentions, and being even nicer by inviting the community's input...  Not even going to comment on the fabricated "I don't pretend to speak for everyone" and mine "is the only voice to be raised so far" sentence, but thanks for brightening my morning coffee with a little chuckle...:-)

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Maybe I'm wrong. I'll let him sort it out for us.

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Ahhh Girl said

This will all get worked out. We're ok.  

Absolutely. I checked my email this morning for the first time in a few days and saw the one @meanmistermustard and @Ahhh Girl mentioned. The email was initially about a link to spam in the signature of someone who hasn't logged in for quite some time. Once that was easily resolved, @Joe  mentioned some other things he was testing (some automated) in regard to site optimization (age of threads, how many times the thread is accessed, etc...). We haven't heard from Joe since this latest locking occurred (the man has a life, after all) but my guess is that something was being tested and some desirable threads were caught in the proverbial net. He warned us that things may look wonky.

I will join my fellow mods in waiting to hear from Joe and do everything I can to help resolve the issue.

Thanks everyone.

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Just my two cents.

Joe is a Bowie fan! I don't see why he would lock that one and leave other music threads like the Prince thread open. It's probably a forum glitch. mccartney-shrug_01_gif

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Should also be noted he has a plans for a Bowie site in mind though. May want people to go there to talk Dave than let them talk Dave here. a-hard-days-night-george-10

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Should also be noted he has a plans for a Bowie site in mind though. May want people to go there to talk Dave than let them talk Dave here. a-hard-days-night-george-10  

If you are suggesting that Joe has deliberately locked the Bowie thread so folk with go there then a) the site doesn't exist yet and b) Joe currently has zero intention of having a forum there.

 

From the very beginning the plan has always been that there will be certain threads left open in ATN , many others locked, and all other sub-forums untouched. That was, is and remains the sole intention. What some are getting annoyed about and why there are claims of conspiracies and underhand actions is beyond me. 

I'm also not sure why one action, which is yet to be determined was by accident or deliberate, has caused all this. 

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George is winking, @meanmistermustard! It's clearly a joke!

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