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Typing out song names as a show of respect
25 July 2015
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Silly Girl, yeah, ironically, in my first post of my topic here, I misspelled Everybody’s Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey …! 

The reason I did that was that I was remembering how they actually sang it in the song.  I just confirmed it:  They ARE singing:  “Everybody’s got something to hide, ‘cept for me and my monkey”.  (But that’s okay, sometimes a song title can vary from the line in the song it’s supposed to be invoking; and the point of my topic was to respect the song title as is.)

You’ve probably heard of that longest song title of all history, by Christine Lavin:

“Regretting What I Said to You When You
Called Me 11: 00 On a Friday Morning to Tell Me that at 1: 00
Friday Afternoon You’re Gonna Leave Your Office, Go Downstairs,
Hail a Cab to Go Out to the Airport to Catch a Plane to Go Skiing
In the Alps for Two Weeks, Not that I Wanted to Go With You, I
Wasn’t Able to Leave Town, I’m Not a Very Good Skier, I Couldn’t
Expect You to Pay My Way, But After Going Out With You for Three
Years I don’t Like Surprises!! “

I think that would be the exception to my rule…!

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Just mho – using the abbreviations could also be taken as a sign of respect (the song is so famous that it’s easily identifiable by its acronym). Of course, they are all “easily identifiable” to the person who uses them – not necessarily so to the reader. Then there is the pita factor on mobiles, the fact that there are still a couple people on earth who aren’t fast keyboardists, and the camaraderie that comes with “thinking” the full title when reading the acronym (like when you know a second language well you can actually “think” in it). And it’s fun trying to figure out ones you haven’t come across yet (I’m so used to seeing LSD that it took me awhile to figure out LitSwD). Finally, as much as musical and especially linguistic purists may hate it, I think acronyms and anything that uses fewer keystrokes is the future of informal written (at least) communication. Some, like WTF, OMG, TBH, and OTOH, have already found their way into the spoken realm.

even the spellchecker here recognizes LSD as a valid abbreviation for Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds a-hard-days-night-ringo-13

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Trouble with Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds is when someone types “I Love LSD”. Can be taken in a very wrong way. Good code tho if you actually do love LSD and not the song.a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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Trouble with Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds is when someone types “I Love LSD”. Can be taken in a very wrong way. Good code tho if you actually do love LSD and not the song.a-hard-days-night-paul-7

Context, context, context 😉 When I read “LSD” here I think first of the song, but in other paces or if if the topic isn’t related to the Beatles, I think first of the drug. Well no that’s overgeneralizing…I’m trying to say it depends on the context, whether here or elsewhere. It certainly refers to the drug in some Beatley discussions.

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I often times have no idea what song people are abbreviating so unless people want lol and ttyl8r, then they shouldn’t abbreviate the songs 

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I type it out as it is first e.g. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds , then I shorten it if I continue referencing it LitSwD, then everyone knows what you’re on about!

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Off-topic but why is this in the ‘Getting Better ‘ forum, shouldn’t it be in ‘The Songs’ or ‘All Together Now ‘ ?

 

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I suppose at the time that FP thought it would make the forum a better place.

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You’ve probably heard of that longest song title of all history, by Christine Lavin:

“Regretting What I Said to You When You
Called Me 11: 00 On a Friday Morning to Tell Me that at 1: 00
Friday Afternoon You’re Gonna Leave Your Office, Go Downstairs,
Hail a Cab to Go Out to the Airport to Catch a Plane to Go Skiing
In the Alps for Two Weeks, Not that I Wanted to Go With You, I
Wasn’t Able to Leave Town, I’m Not a Very Good Skier, I Couldn’t
Expect You to Pay My Way, But After Going Out With You for Three
Years I don’t Like Surprises!! “

@Pineapple Records @Beatlebug I don’t believe this is the longest song title. That I think belongs to Stars on 45, and is Beatles related. When Stars on 45 wanted to do a Beatles medley, it was agreed that each Beatles song used would be named in the title. There are several different versions, but the longest, and what I think is probably the longest song title ever, is the album version:

Medley: Stars on 45/No Reply /I’ll Be Back /Drive My Car /Do You Want To Know A Secret /We Can Work It Out /I Should Have Known Better /Nowhere Man /You’re Going To Lose That Girl /Ticket To Ride /The Word /Eleanor Rigby /Every Little Thing /And Your Bird Can Sing /Get Back /Eight Days A Week /It Won’t Be Long /Day Tripper /Wait /Stars on 45/Good Day Sunshine /My Sweet Lord /Here Comes The Sun /While My Guitar Gently Weeps /Taxman /A Hard Day’s Night /Things We Said Today /If I Fell /You Can’t Do That /Please Please Me /From Me To You /I Want To Hold Your Hand /Stars on 45

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Thanks to everybody who commented above.

At first, I was persuaded by Matt’s counter-argument; then I found Annadog’s succinct comment refreshing; then AppleScruffsJunior’s point made sense…  I don’t know what to think now…!paul-mccartney

Also, I think when I posted this topic long ago, I hadn’t quite familiarized myself with the logic of the different forum divisions (but I thank Ahhh Girl for the nice save!).

As for that song Ron Nasty cited, I’d never heard of that.  Has that medley been discussed elsewhere on BB?  I have some thoughts and questions about it, but don’t want to stretch this topic here into unmanageably off-topic taffy proportions…

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Weird how I didn’t see this thread first time ’round! I love that Funny Pineapple cared enough about this topic to make it an issue, and I appreciate the sentiment. But I have to agree with Matt’s point – that the Beatles songs in question loom so large in our legend that when we use a shortened name it IS a show of respect, like the song is an old friend, that it can’t possibly be confused with any other combination of words forming a similar acronym. Me, I’ll always use my own shortened song titles in place of the overlong ones – I’ve often referred to “Mr. Kite” or “She’s So Heavy” or “Me And My Monkey”. And I think that Joe’s policy of automatically hyperlinking song titles (which I believe started after this thread) gives me more reason to do so. I still find it annoying that I can’t use innocent words/phrases like “Yesterday ” or “Two of Us” without the irrelevent link popping up, and try to avoid it if I can. 

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The shortened songs are ok, like Sgt. Pepper , but when you hit me with MHYFGR, I’m totally lost!

Of course SELTAEB took me a while too! a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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I think that Joe’s policy of automatically hyperlinking song titles (which I believe started after this thread) gives me more reason to do so. I still find it annoying that I can’t use innocent words/phrases like “Yesterday” or “Two Of Us” without the irrelevent link popping up, and try to avoid it if I can. 

I’m sorry you feel that way. FWIW a lot of the titles are case sensitive, so Yesterday and Two Of Us will automatically link, but a sentence such as “my brother came round yesterday and the two of us went shopping” won’t. They’re not all case-sensitive; only the ones where I think a word or phrase might be used outside the context of a song title. It’s hard to anticipate all eventualities though.

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And for phrases, if you double-space, it will keep from linking but not obstruct the eye too much. At least, I don’t like to read ‘f0r n0 0ne’ but ‘for  no one’ is okay. 

P.S. ‘Funny Pineapple’. I like it! 🙂 

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Annadog40 said
I often times have no idea what song people are abbreviating so unless people want lol and ttyl8r, then they shouldn’t abbreviate the songs 

^ This.

 

Just today, I saw someone use the abbreviation GMGM, and I had no idea what they were talking about. I had to scroll back quite a long way to discover they meant Good Morning Good Morning . I’ve used abbreviations for the really long and really well known titles a few times, but I wish people would just type it out more often. The shorthand is getting ridiculous. Please don’t abbreviate songs titles that only have a few words. 

 

p.s. Instead of SPLHCB , one can also write ‘Sgt. Pepper ‘, or simply ‘Pepper’. Instead of BFTBOMK, ‘Mr. Kite’ also works. Anyone will know which song is being referred to, and it’s a lot easier to read than all those capitals.

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@Bungalow Bob said a long time ago and I can’t help but comment even if it’s hardly relevant

The early-70’s soft-rock group Bread had a ht with a song titled “If.” I just checked over at their fan website, the “Bread Bible,” and sure enough, it is referred to by the shorthand “I.”*

*Totally not true.

Pink Floyd actually do have a song called ‘If‘, and absolutely no one — not even the most hardcore fans — refers to it by the shorthand ‘I’. It’s always called ‘If’. a-hard-days-night-john-6 

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I usually try to type it out first and then abbreviate it if I use it again in the same post.

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They have a good idea on a technical forum I’m on.  If you use abbreviations you can hover over them and it shows the word or phrase in full.  Some poor soul has had to enter it all up in the first place and the forum software has to support it of course.    

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I don’t do it as a show of respect. The songs can’t tell and don’t care whether you respect them.

 

I do it because I hate it when other people don’t do it. When people abbreviate songs, it usually takes a second to figure out what they’re talking about. I type out the full name because it’s the courteous thing to do. 

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