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Thanks AG. 

My list:

(a suggestion for a catch all thread) - a thread for all musicians other than the Beatles
introduce yourself
in my life
listening to now
birthday topic (+BB Birthday )
derail
YKYAHBBW (this could be moved to Getting Better ?)
Eating right now
whatever happened to
funniest post
turn it up or down
WSC updates
things we learned today
The All-Purpose Getting-To-Know-BBers Questions Thread
concerts you have been to
rest in peace
do you have music on the internet
what are you reading
pet peeves
happiness is a nice thread
songwriting
BB house
news
BB Band
Dreams (only for dreams about BBers?)
Teenage thread
songs that sound similar
End of year awards
BB Theme Song
Christmas

Everything else I feel is a bit superfluous to have a thread on, and could go in the derail thread if absolutely necessary.

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The Christmas one could be a general Holiday one but other than that, I agree with The Hole Got Fixed mostly. And tbh I now pretty much only use the dream thread for Beatles bible dreams.

My changes are italic

(a suggestion for a catch all thread) - a thread for all musicians other than the Beatles
introduce yourself
in my life
[strike]listening to now[/strike]
birthday topic (+BB Birthday )
derail
YKYAHBBW (this could be moved to Getting Better ?)
Eating right now
whatever happened to
funniest post
turn it up or down
WSC updates
things we learned today
The All-Purpose Getting-To-Know-BBers Questions Thread
concerts you have been to
rest in peace
do you have music on the internet
what are you reading
pet peeves
happiness is a nice thread
songwriting
BB house
news (I quite like this thread and hope it remains. It allows us to engage on a more substantial level.)
BB Band
Dreams (only for dreams about BBers?)
Teenage thread
songs that sound similar (i'm not sure about this one is big enough for a thread)
End of year awards
BB Theme Song (I wonder if this could work in GB or the Help section)
[strike]Christmas[/strike]
The real life pictures thread/meet thread (adds a social connection and can be kept to one thread)
Fifty Shades (I want this forum to have a fun spark, this thread provides that)
BB stories (A bunch of stories are out of date but maybe someone will be inspired to make one idk.

Though now with watch thread feature open, couldn't people just watch whatever thread they want and ignore the rest? That's what I do on other forums I use.

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Will do, @meanmistermustard. I'll work on it shortly and re-post it with some background info.

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I've said nothing because I was fairly confused about what was going on and didn't find this thread until well into proceedings. That's as much my fault as anything, so excuse my tardiness. But I see the younger members of the community have stepped up and made concrete suggestions and I think that's a very healthy sign for the forums and I have no particular quarrel or opinion on the merits of keeping one thread over another. Except for one or three exceptions:

  •  Beatles Bible Band thread: It might have quietened down a bit (which is an issue for all my favourites) but it's been a really enjoyable engagement with people and we muddle through alright. And at the very least it has to date been related to Beatles music. It's given us something to do with our pent-up desire to rock out like the Fabs.
  • The Guitar (and other musical instruments) Thread: this is a little less directly related but is also a space where we do discuss Beatles-related guitar as well as others. I think it would be a pity to lose it. It too, has inspiration from the Fabs and many others and is often techy and gear-related.
  • The Ukulele Thread: well of course I want to keep it, I started it. And it was started through inspiration by George who, true to his nature, wanted everyone to enjoy this instrument and the songs it has spawned (some of the very best ever written in America); and may I add, it has been visited by none other than @Joe to discuss ukey things.
  • Beatles Bible Theme Song thread: this should be kept around, it's not doing much these days but those in the Beatles Bible Band thread may yet write a theme song if we can ever agree on what it should sound like!

So there are my pleas, if you please john-lennon-salute_gif

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Good job all so far. Lists are coming forward now that Joe's meaning in an earlier post is now properly understood (I was not the only one to read it the way I did).

My list is in the works.

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From what I've gone through so far, with a few added suggestions what to do with the threads:

Welcome thread

In My Life  

Birthday

BBB thread

Christmas (could be merged with the Happy New Year thread)

Thanksgiving 

Halloween

Rest in peace

WSC update thread

New avatar topic

Fifty Shades of BB

I read the news today thread

Song you're on a kick of?

What are you listening to right now?

Albums you recently bought

What are you eating right now?

What are reading thread

Favourite TV shows thread

Video games thread (think of the Miis!)

Movies thread 

Whatever happened to...

Things we learned today 

Concerts thread

Incredibly Impossible to Derail thread

Turn it up or down

Choosing Between Two Things

Teenager thread

Pet Peeves 

Dreams (I don't get the whole "about Beatles Biblers" part though, Holey. I'd still like to share dreams about random things when I have them! )

Uploading a picture of yourself thread 

BB House

Foreign Language thread (merged with What languages can you speak? thread)

Football (soccer) 

The Goons (the third time I've said this now, but because of the many Beatley connections in that thread, I believe it should be moved to the Yesterday And Today section)

Do you have music on the internet thread (possibly could be merged with the non-Beatles covers thread)

Ukulele thread (possibly could be merged into guitar and other musical instruments thread)

Poetry 

Happiness is a nice thread

Songwriters discussion thread

BB band thread (could be merged with BB theme song thread)

9 random facts

Desert Island Discs thread

NASA thread (for Into The Sky...)

BB history thread

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame thread

General  Appreciation Thread

Confessions

Vinyl thread

 YouTube thread

Capsule into the past thread

Best  soundtracks

BB stories thread

Rewritten lyrics (should be moved to The Songs section)

Monty Python

 

 

As for bands/artists threads:

Beach Boys appreciation thread

Pink Floyd (with Syd Barrett thread merged into it)

David Bowie

Bob Dylan

Led Zep (with Carry Fire thread merged into it)

Nirvana

Elvis

Prince

Buddy Holly

Elton John

Early rock and rollers

Prog/Art rock thread 

Queen 

The Rolling Stones 

One hit wonders thread

British Invasion thread

80s music scene thread

The Who (thread hasn't been active in a while, but may spark a discussion one of these days)

the Small Faces/ the Faces/Humble Pie Appreciation Thread (same as above)

The Zombies

The Grateful Dead

Weird Al 

Laurel Canyon

Billy Joel

Rap thread (why not?ahdn_ringo_09)

I also think there is a Girl Groups thread somewhere on ATN that could be saved too.

What do you guys think? Am I missing anything? Are my merging suggestions uneeded?

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One thing I would point out about moving threads to "Yesterday ... and Today", for those suggesting it for some threads, is that conversation in that section is meant to be primarily about The Beatles. Certain musicians, Dylan and Elvis spring to mind, have threads in both ATN and YaT, but the YaT threads are pretty much exclusively about their relationships with The Beatles, and often have pejorative titles (such as "Did ... hate The Beatles?").

So, the moving of some threads from ATN to YaT would limit the scope of the discussion as I'm not sure Joe would want the wider-ranging discussions we have about them in ATN being continued in YaT.

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SgtPeppersBulldog said

Dreams (I don't get the whole "about Beatles Biblers" part though, Holey. I'd still like to share dreams about random things when I have them! )

Agree completely. I only said that in case a compromise was needed. john-lennon-salute_gif

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@ewe2 said
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  • The Ukulele Thread: well of course I want to keep it, I started it. [snip]  
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    Your ukulele penguinrants were the impetus for my creating it, however, so partial credit for the thread unequivocally goes to you.

    As for the threads I want kept: I pretty much agree with the above posters.

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    All this time I thought it was spelled "Ukelele".  It helps me to know that the word ukulele is two words:  uku ("flea") and lele ("jumping").

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    Apparently both spellings are used, but 'ukulele' looks more phonetic and balanced to me.

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    I guess what confused me was the common nickname "uke".

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    You see how VITAL the Ukulele thread is now? paul-mccartney-facepalm_gif

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    Thanks everyone. Sorry for my slowness in responding to this – I was on holiday for a week, then the kids were off school for another week, and I had to get my head round GDPR consents, deal with various email issues, fix some broken stuff, zap a huge number of spam messages and registrations, writing some new content, and a whole bunch of other stuff. It's surprising how much admin there is for a site like this, even when everything is ostensibly running smoothly.

    I haven't forgotten about this, though I've been sort of putting it off because it's impossible to make everyone happy. I like some of @The Hole Got Fixed's suggestions, so I'll do what I can to accommodate. 

    These are ones I'm currently favouring, though it's not a definitive list. It feels like a good balance of keeping this a music forum, but allowing a bit of side chatter too.

    Non-Beatles music (would this be sufficient for everyone, or would it just become huge, repetitive and impossible to navigate?)
    introduce yourself to the forum
    in my life – what's happening with you?
    birthday topic
    Impossible to derail
    whatever happened to
    funniest post
    turn it up or down
    WSC updates
    The All-Purpose Getting-To-Know-BBers Questions Thread – this can include things like "Nine random facts about you", real-life pics, concerts you have been to etc.
    rest in peace
    do you have music on the internet – move to Pimp Your Stuff
    happiness is a nice thread
    BB house
    BB Band
    End of year awards
    Christmas Happy holidays

    I'm not sure about the uke thread. It feels like we'd be better off having a broader one, like Do you play an instrument?, which can encompass guitar, uke, mandolin, drums, or whatever else people want to chat about. Could that work?

    What are you reading, listening to etc. can be put into In My Life – What's happening with you? Pet peeves can be part of impossible-to-derail. We have space for a lot of these discussions already, without them becoming splintered and niche (and infrequently contributed to).

    Thoughts?

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    Joe said

    Non-Beatles music (would this be sufficient for everyone, or would it just become huge, repetitive and impossible to navigate?)

    I'm not sure about the uke thread. It feels like we'd be better off having a broader one, like Do you play an instrument?, which can encompass guitar, uke, mandolin, drums, or whatever else people want to chat about. Could that work?

    I would think that both of these would end up having hard-to-follow conversation. Disjointed. Disconnected.

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    I say change the name of Happy Holidays. The term implies Christmas which based on that list is more general.

    I recommend "The Holidays Thread".

    Maybe non Beatles music could be it's own subforum. It is still music so it wouldn't be as fluff as a general off topic forum.

    Also I think Beatles Bible birthdays should be included since it is more forum based.

    Ahhh Girl said

    I would think that both of these would end up having hard-to-follow conversation. Disjointed. Disconnected.  

    That's how I feel The All-Purpose Getting-To-Know-BBers Thread would be.

    Could also just lock any thread that hasn't been posted in a year and leave any that were posted in.

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    I think I'm fairly happy with that list. 

    If I wanted to share a dream I had (especially one with a BBer), would it go into the getting to know BBers thread? 

    Another idea: have a 'BBer music' thread, which could encompass everything from songwriting to playing various instruments to mixing. I feel like we have almost never had (eg) the uke thread and the guitar thread active at the same time, so this thread may not get disjointed. 

    Starr Shine? said
    I say change the name of Happy Holidays. The term implies Christmas which based on that list is more general.

    I recommend "The Holidays Thread".

    Maybe non Beatles music could be it's own subforum. It is still music so it wouldn't be as fluff as a general off topic forum.

    Also I think Beatles Bible birthdays should be included since it is more forum based.

    Agree with all of that. 

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    Ahhh Girl said

    Joe said

    Non-Beatles music (would this be sufficient for everyone, or would it just become huge, repetitive and impossible to navigate?)

    I'm not sure about the uke thread. It feels like we'd be better off having a broader one, like Do you play an instrument?, which can encompass guitar, uke, mandolin, drums, or whatever else people want to chat about. Could that work?

    I would think that both of these would end up having hard-to-follow conversation. Disjointed. Disconnected.  

    As a subforum yes, as a topic thread no, and it would be harder to admin as well. I had myself been thinking in terms of re-arranging as 'Instruments the Beatles played' and realised how quickly out of hand that would get, and also that merging those threads would be at the expense of clear separation of content. People can and do 'rediscover' such topic threads regularly here, as long as the category is clear it makes searching a lot easier, which is another issue with the site I'm sure you're aware of. At least the guitar and uke threads are on topic as being related to the Beatles in specific ways!

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    Oh and I would like dreams thread separate. Maybe have it be Beatles Bible dreams only.

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    ewe2 said

    As a subforum yes, as a topic thread no, and it would be harder to admin as well. I had myself been thinking in terms of re-arranging as 'Instruments the Beatles played' and realised how quickly out of hand that would get, and also that merging those threads would be at the expense of clear separation of content. People can and do 'rediscover' such topic threads regularly here, as long as the category is clear it makes searching a lot easier, which is another issue with the site I'm sure you're aware of. At least the guitar and uke threads are on topic as being related to the Beatles in specific ways! 

    Yip. Thread titles are a lot better nowadays, and if not clear they usually get altered (with permission from the OP), the older threads, on the other hand, can have titles that are unhelpful for searching or giving any idea what the topic actually is. 

    At one point we thought about giving the ancient threads a tidy (rename, merge etc) but it's a mess and the amount of time and effort it would take is far too great for threads that are so deeply buried.

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