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Hmm, and as for what makes Tom so attractive (intriguing thing to think about, Bebu, thankspaul-mccartney-thumb_gif), I'll have to get back to you on that tomorrow, maybe, so that I have some time to really think about it. ahdn_george_01  

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Alright @Beatlebug and @lovelyritametermaid, it may have taken a little longer, but I think I've got the lot of it figured out. Here are the reasons (taking into account that these are my own observations and opinions, and therefore may differ from other people's) why Tom Petty was so attractive:

1. Agreeing with Bebu's and lovelyrita's observations, he had a sort of cool, confident air about him.

2. Also related to one of lovelyrita's points, Tom wasn't particularly attractive in the "traditional" sense. However, I think this made him more attractive, as I don't generally find "traditional" attractiveness particularly appealing.mccartney-shrug_01_gif

3. He was a guitar player - I like those. ahdn_george_08

4. He had a very chill and calm speaking voice that's pretty soothing. I don't know if it's a strange thing or not, but I find this interview in particular makes me feel less anxious.

5. His accent was actually quite charming, even though I'm generally not fond of Southern accents.

6. His hair was just gorgeous, which probably goes without saying. I'm generally not fond of blondes or straight hair, let alone both together, but (hmm, seems to be a bit of a pattern here) Tom's was just lovely, the way it fell so sweetly upon his shoulders. Look at this clip from a 1978 film he made an appearance in called FM, especially when his back is facing the camera, and you'll see what I mean.beatlemaniacs_02_gif

7. Something about his singing just tickles me pink: perhaps half of it's the emotion, and half of it's just the fact that I love his voice. Speaking of conveying emotion, one example that I find pretty notable is in "American Girl", when he sings: "God , it's so painful/Something that is so close, but still so far out of reach". You can just feel the yearning in that line.

8. We've got similar tastes in music: he was a Beatles fan, y'know.a-hard-days-night-paul-7

9. He and George were good friends, and I don't think George would have been the kind to befriend some phoney or horrible person.

10. He was a great songwriter, which is an attractive ability to have. So many great tunes from that man, and a good variety, too.

11. He was nice and slim, and I like a good slim boi. Apologies, but no overt chub or big muscles for me, please and thank you.

12. Tying into his chillness, I don't get the impression that he was one to get too angry, which is a trait that I can appreciate, seeing as I get anxious when people are mad or yelling.

...Or, y'know, at least besides that one time when he was working on "Rebels". ahdn_paul_01

13. He had a sense of humour, and could be a little silly when the occasion called for it. a-hard-days-night-george-10

14. He didn't seem to be particularly tall or short, which I like. Too short is just not my thing, and too tall can be a bit intimidating sometimes.

15. He seemed like the kind of guy that would really stand up for what he believed in. Take the whole Hard Promises pricing situation, for instance.

16. He's the kind of guy that looked so handsome in just a simple outfit, like a shirt, jeans and leather or denim jacket. For example, here's one of my favourite pictures of Tom:

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As for the denim jacket, take a peek at the clip from FM I linked above.

17. Finally, a sort of catch-all for the things I can't quite pinpoint as well, but definitely factor in, like his smile, other facial expressions, and his mannerisms. I dunno, I just love them, and I couldn't tell you why: sometimes, I love Tom simply because he's Tom.heart

So, there you have it, I think. I'll let you know if I've somehow forgotten something, though I doubt it. I may be a bit of a nutter sometimes, but when I am, I at least try to be thorough. ahdn_john_08_gif

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Alright @Beatlebug and @lovelyritametermaid, it may have taken a little longer, but I think I've got the lot of it figured out. Here are the reasons (taking into account that these are my own observations and opinions, and therefore may differ from other people's) why Tom Petty was so attractive:


1. Agreeing with Bebu's and lovelyrita's observations, he had a sort of cool, confident air about him.

2. Also related to one of lovelyrita's points, Tom wasn't particularly attractive in the "traditional" sense. However, I think this made him more attractive, as I don't generally find "traditional" attractiveness particularly appealing.mccartney-shrug_01_gif

3. He was a guitar player - I like those. ahdn_george_08

4. He had a very chill and calm speaking voice that's pretty soothing. I don't know if it's a strange thing or not, but I find this interview in particular makes me feel less anxious.

5. His accent was actually quite charming, even though I'm generally not fond of Southern accents.

6. His hair was just gorgeous, which probably goes without saying. I'm generally not fond of blondes or straight hair, let alone both together, but (hmm, seems to be a bit of a pattern here) Tom's was just lovely, the way it fell so sweetly upon his shoulders. Look at this clip from a 1978 film he made an appearance in called FM, especially when his back is facing the camera, and you'll see what I mean.beatlemaniacs_02_gif

7. Something about his singing just tickles me pink: perhaps half of it's the emotion, and half of it's just the fact that I love his voice. Speaking of conveying emotion, one example that I find pretty notable is in "American Girl", when he sings: "God , it's so painful/Something that is so close, but still so far out of reach". You can just feel the yearning in that line.

8. We've got similar tastes in music: he was a Beatles fan, y'know.a-hard-days-night-paul-7

9. He and George were good friends, and I don't think George would have been the kind to befriend some phoney or horrible person.

10. He was a great songwriter, which is an attractive ability to have. So many great tunes from that man, and a good variety, too.

11. He was nice and slim, and I like a good slim boi. Apologies, but no overt chub or big muscles for me, please and thank you.

12. Tying into his chillness, I don't get the impression that he was one to get too angry, which is a trait that I can appreciate, seeing as I get anxious when people are mad or yelling.

...Or, y'know, at least besides that one time when he was working on "Rebels". ahdn_paul_01

13. He had a sense of humour, and could be a little silly when the occasion called for it. a-hard-days-night-george-10

14. He didn't seem to be particularly tall or short, which I like. Too short is just not my thing, and too tall can be a bit intimidating sometimes.

15. He seemed like the kind of guy that would really stand up for what he believed in. Take the whole Hard Promises pricing situation, for instance.

16. He's the kind of guy that looked so handsome in just a simple outfit, like a shirt, jeans and leather or denim jacket. For example, here's one of my favourite pictures of Tom:

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As for the denim jacket, take a peek at the clip from FM I linked above.

17. Finally, a sort of catch-all for the things I can't quite pinpoint as well, but definitely factor in, like his smile, other facial expressions, and his mannerisms. I dunno, I just love them, and I couldn't tell you why: sometimes, I love Tom simply because he's Tom.heart

So, there you have it, I think. I'll let you know if I've somehow forgotten something, though I doubt it. I may be a bit of a nutter sometimes, but when I am, I at least try to be thorough. ahdn_john_08_gif  

I agree with all of these points john-lennon-salute_gifpaul-mccartney-thumb_gifheart Very thorough, indeed, WeepyC and you pretty much took all of my thoughts into put them into words (something I myself have trouble doing lol) 

On the note about his singing being charming and attractive, I always loved Tom's singing and air in "Yer So Bad." It always made the song feel so cute and intimate-- "Yer so bad.....the best that I ever had....in a world gone mad, baby yer so bad." 

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On the note about his singing being charming and attractive, I always loved Tom's singing and air in "Yer So Bad." It always made the song feel so cute and intimate-- "Yer so bad.....the best that I ever had....in a world gone mad, baby yer so bad." 

Ooh, yes, I love "Yer So Bad"! I forgot that it even existed for the longest time, having only really heard it via very infrequent radio play some years ago, but you mentioning it prompted me to give it a listen again. Now I can't stop... ahdn_paul_01

And have you seen the video for it? Indeed, it's perhaps the smallest bit strange.a-hard-days-night-george-10 And Tom gives a mighty cute smile.a-hard-days-night-paul-7

Getting back to something a little more on topic ahdn_george_08: Do any of you have a least favourite Wilburys song?

I think, if I had to choose one, it'd be "If You Belonged To Me". Don't get me wrong, all Wilbury tunes have a special place in my heart, but I feel that perhaps Bob wasn't the best choice for the lead vocal spot. I find his singing sometimes has a sort of spontaneity in that it doesn't really strictly follow the rhythm or melody to a T, and while that's not bad at all, I think that it's maybe just not what really fits with the song. Does that make any sense?a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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Jeff's Roy Orbison spectacular, Not Alone Anymore. Easily as good as any of his early 60s classics. That is saying a lot.

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@WeepingAtlasCedars - while researching if there are any cedar trees planted at Friar Park a-hard-days-night-george-9, I ran into this bit of fun from Tony Hawk's blog.

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Tony Hawk posted this photo of Tom Petty and George Harrison at Friar Park along with this caption on his instagram:

We were doing a demo near London during a Bones Brigade tour in 1990 when a kid asked if we’d like to come to his house for dinner. It was an unusual request, but he had confidence and explained that his dad would be excited to meet us. We quickly learned that his name was Dhani Harrison, and his dad was the legendary George Harrison . We agreed, and headed to his place (castle) after the demo. His mom Olivia was a most gracious host, offering us homemade pizza. She proudly gave us a preview of a charity album she organized to benefit Romanian orphans that featured the Traveling Wilburys, who would be recording at their home studio the following day. We were led into the living room where George and Tom Petty were fixated on the World Cup finals. It was surreal. Dhani showed us his room and some of his guitar techniques he had learned from Bob Dylan, who was scheduled to arrive later that night. Dhani and I have remained in contact to this day, and it has been inspiring to see how him forging his own way as a talented musician while keeping the grace and humility of his legendary father.

EDIT: Dhani replied with, “This pic is lord. Look how happy they are. Nice one @tonyhawk. Come visit again soon!”

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Dhani looking sharp in his new shirt while taking Tony's gift out for a spin.

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@sigh butterfly said
@WeepingAtlasCedars - while researching if there are any cedar trees planted at Friar Park a-hard-days-night-george-9, I ran into this bit of fun from Tony Hawk's blog.

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Tony Hawk posted this photo of Tom Petty and George Harrison at Friar Park along with this caption on his instagram:

We were doing a demo near London during a Bones Brigade tour in 1990 when a kid asked if we’d like to come to his house for dinner. It was an unusual request, but he had confidence and explained that his dad would be excited to meet us. We quickly learned that his name was Dhani Harrison, and his dad was the legendary George Harrison . We agreed, and headed to his place (castle) after the demo. His mom Olivia was a most gracious host, offering us homemade pizza. She proudly gave us a preview of a charity album she organized to benefit Romanian orphans that featured the Traveling Wilburys, who would be recording at their home studio the following day. We were led into the living room where George and Tom Petty were fixated on the World Cup finals. It was surreal. Dhani showed us his room and some of his guitar techniques he had learned from Bob Dylan, who was scheduled to arrive later that night. Dhani and I have remained in contact to this day, and it has been inspiring to see how him forging his own way as a talented musician while keeping the grace and humility of his legendary father.

EDIT: Dhani replied with, “This pic is lord. Look how happy they are. Nice one @tonyhawk. Come visit again soon!”

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Dhani looking sharp in his new shirt while taking Tony's gift out for a spin.

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Aww, I think I've seen this before! These kinds of stories, especially about Tom and George in particular, always make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.a-hard-days-night-george-9heart And, I think I've got a new favourite photo of Dhani. a-hard-days-night-george-10

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Dhani looking sharp in his new shirt while taking Tony's gift out for a spin.

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WeepingAtlasCedars said
Aww, I think I've seen this before! These kinds of stories, especially about Tom and George in particular, always make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.a-hard-days-night-george-9heart And, I think I've got a new favourite photo of Dhani. a-hard-days-night-george-10

  

Me too WeepyC, me too. a-hard-days-night-george-9heart. Is it just me or does Dhani bear a resemblance to a certain forum member (or should I say mod)?a-hard-days-night-george-10

Btw - one additional derail of this derail. I looked through lots of pictures of Friar Park and did not find any obvious Weeping Atlas Cedars. The trees framing the sun garden (on the left in this picture) are a possibility but hard to tell.

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Is it just me or does Dhani bear a resemblance to a certain forum member (or should I say mod)?a-hard-days-night-george-10

Eh? ahdn_george_01

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The first Wilbury album is among my favourites too, haven't really listened to the second yet. The best songs for me are Not Alone Anymore (is The Big O the greatest singing voice that ever existed? I almost think so...) and Tweeter And The Monkey Man (one of the coolest tunes around), but I love them all.

 

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Very nice 25 minute documentary about the making of the first album, The True History of the Traveling Wilburys, appeared on their YT channel on 29 October, lots of home footage from the sessions:

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I think the difference between Volume 1 and Volume 3, @William Shears Campbell, is that V1 is more spontaneous. There were no expectations. They walked into the sessions wondering what would happen. V3, because of the success of V1, they walked into with expectations on them because of the success of V1, they walked in with songs written - rather than the "writing a song a day" ethic of the first album, and Dylan dominated too much with weaker songs than he'd contributed to on V1. And there is no Roy figure. It was rumoured at the time that they might bring in Carl Perkins or Del Shannon, but they didn't, and that lost the part and spirit the Roy gave V1, that figure from the first generation of rock and roll.

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The rumour about that was they (for some reason my head says George and Tom??) were literally travelling to go see Del Shannon to ask him did he want to be in the Wilburys but then they found out of his tragic death. 

 

Have no idea whether it's true or not but it makes an interesting story.

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