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Miscellaneous questions about George Harrison
22 January 2016
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I thought it had been deleted and never gave it another thought.

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Glad I could help, however unwittingly; but this means my uke-question is once again on the last page. a-hard-days-night-ringo-12

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So can I get a answer. I know Ringo and George got along but did John and Paul ever patch things up with George Harrison

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Paul did. I don't think John did.

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I know that George played on some songs on the Imagine album so they must have been friendly at that time.

I think (I haven't checked though) that they fell out slightly when George barely mentioned John in his book 'I Me Mine '.

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John pissed George off when he refused to sign the Beatles divorce papers claiming the stars weren't aligned properly, or something similar. I think John sent a balloon over and then signed then the next day at Disney Land. John had agreed to perform during George's concert at Madison Square Garden but due to their disagreement it never took place.

I think they kind of made up after that but then John was peeved at not getting more of a mention in George's 1980 autobiography 'I, Me, Mine' and it was never resolved. 

Edit: They made up the same night after the MSG concert. John signed the papers on the 27th December 1974.

John recalls: "George and I are still good pals and we always will be, but I was supposed to sign this thing on the day of his concert. He was pretty weird because he was in the middle of that tour and we hadn't communicated for a while because he doesn't live here. I've seen Paul a bit because he comes to New York a lot, and I'm always seeing Ringo in Los Angeles. Anyway, I was a bit nervous about going on stage, but I agreed to because it would have been mean of me not to go on with George after I'd gone on with Elton. I didn't sign the document on that day because my astrologer told me it wasn't the right day, tee hee! (John will finally sign the papers on Friday December 27 at Disneyworld in Florida - see entry.)

"George was furious with me at the time because I hadn't signed it when I was supposed to, and somehow or other I was informed that I needn't bother to go to George's show. I was quite relieved in the end because there wasn't any time to rehearse and I didn't want it to be a case of just John jumping up and playing a few chords. I went to see him at Nassau and it was a good show. The band was great but Ravi wasn't there, so I didn't see the bit where the crowd is supposed to get restless. I just saw a good tight show. George's voice was shot but the atmosphere was good and the crowd was great. I saw George after the Garden show and we were friends again. But he was surrounded by the madhouse that's called 'touring'. I respect George but I think he made a mistake on the tour. Mistakes are easier to spot if you're not the person making them, so I don't want to come on like 'I know better', 'cos I haven't done that... one of the basic mistakes seemed to be that the people wanted to hear old stuff. George wasn't prepared to do that, and I understand him. When I did that charity concert at Madison Square Garden, I was still riding high on 'Imagine ' so I was OK for material. But when I did 'Come Together ' the house came down, which gave me an indication of what people wanted to hear."

John and George December 1974 radio interview

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Was The Inner Light his last eastern track? i know he was keen on meditation all of his life, was it the same with the sitar? No too much sitar in his solo stuff, no?

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I don't remember if he ever did another full track that was solely Indian-style, and ATMP wasn't very Eastern at all, but he always retained an interest in Indian music. You hear more musical influence than actual Indian music on most of his solo records though. 

'Be Here Now' sounds rather Indian to my ears, and then of course we can't forget the middle-section and end of 'Brainwashed'. 

Also 'Marwa Blues' because any opportunity to share that song and it does sound rather Indian as well with those crazy accidentals. 

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Was The Inner Light his last eastern track? i know he was keen on meditation all of his life, was it the same with the sitar? No too much sitar in his solo stuff, no?

He did one other very Indian song, a little ditty for a children's TV show called 'The Bunbury Tales'. The song is 'Ride Rajbun' (which he sung with his song Dhani who was 9 at the time). The show is all about an Indian rabbit who plays cricket, as you do.

 

Other George solo songs that have the Indian vibe include the ending of 'When We Was Fab' which has a little sitar bit and obviously the end of Brainwashed, the title track, which has the Namah Parvarti chant with a tabla in the background.

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George's last major Indian excursion was the Ravi Shankar album Shankar Family and Friends. George was nominally the producer of this album, originally intended as an Apple release in early 1973, but on George's Dark Horse label by the time it was released in late 1974, it is easy to view the album as "Shankar, Harrison, Family and Friends", given George's contribution as producer, arranger, musician.

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This question isn't very important, nor do I expect anyone to give me a satisfactory answer, but it nags at me daily so here 'tis: 

Why does George have to be so fab?! beatlemaniacs_02_gif 

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Because that is how you perceive him to be.

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How did George get into so much financial trouble that he needed the Anthology project to create income? Wasn't he getting money from his work with The Beatles? How much money did he have at one point and how far did he really fall monetarily? (I hope this question makes sense.)

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If i recall correctly it came thru Handade Films and getting screwed by people he trusted, mainly Denis O'Brien (George's business manager and partner in Handmade Films). It wasnt that George was broke, his assets were more frozen. 

This is from 'The Independent', dated 28th October 1995, examining why George would get involved in the Anthology series considering why he was so against such a venture for so long.  I will copy and paste in case it gets deleted at any point. Worth reading from the start but the financial side is from the 5th paragraph.

George Harrison used to be so rude about the Beatles that his friends rarely brought up the subject. "As far as I'm concerned, there won't be a Beatles reunion as long as John Lennon remains dead," he said in 1989, his blunt response to Paul McCartney 's suggestion that they collaborate again. His anger became personal when McCartney mentioned it again two years later. "It just happens", he said, "that every time Paul needs some publicity, he announces to the press we're getting back together again. I wouldn't pay much attention to that."

That he has now willingly contributed to the Anthology makes these same friends sigh sympathetically. The reason, they suggest, is financial. After the collapse of Handmade Films in 1991, and his current legal action against his old business partner, Denis O'Brien, he needs the money. That's one theory as to why the Anthology has finally been completed.

It's certainly not because Harrison likes the limelight. His old friend Joe Brown, the musician and comedian, says that when the two of them go shopping in a local supermarket, it is Brown who is asked for an autograph. Wrinkly, greying, often dressed in old corduroys, Harrison is seldom recognised these days - which is exactly how he likes it. In the past ten years, there has been little music and no more than three or four interviews, all invariably linked to the charity work for Romanian babies that his second wife and former secretary, Olivia Arias, undertakes.

 

Derek Taylor, press secretary for the Beatles, remembers that in the group's early days Harrison was punctilious and easy-going with the press; later, he just withdrew. "I gave up on him. John liked it, Paul could always perform if he felt like it, and Ringo was Ringo." But George wasn't interested.

No surprise, then, that Apple has been telling journalists that George is "going away" for the launch of the project, and that he faxed his answers to Newsweek when they asked about it. He still hates the way the Beatles continue to monopolise his life. "For every pound, shilling and penny that the Beatles had earned, there was an equal amount of grief," he wearily told one biographer at the end of the Eighties. McCartney, often difficult and bossy in his musical relationships, must have been uppermost in his mind. When Paul told a journalist in 1989 that he wanted to write again with Harrison, George's sniffy response was that "he has left it a bit late, then, is all I can say".

Anyone looking to explain his change of heart could start by examining the papers filed in Los Angeles Superior Court on 20 January this year. His accusations focus on Denis O'Brien, an American financier who masterminded Harrison's short reign at the top of the British film industry with Monty Python's Life of Brian (1979), Mona Lisa (1986) and Time Bandits (1981). The former Beatle claims that O'Brien cheated him out of £16 million over a 12-year period. If, as some suggest, Harrison is down to his last £10 million, that certainly makes a Beatles' reunion more attractive.

Without a film company, or a deal for his Dark Horse Records - or, indeed, a hit album of his own since 1987 - Harrison needs the security of future Beatles income. In Friar Park, his Victorian Gothic mansion in Henley, he has found the perfect rock star folly to soak up his fortune. Millions of pounds have been spent on renovating the innumerable splendours of this former nunnery, where Harrison has installed a first-floor recording studio and restored its magnificent gardens, gargoyles, statues, lakes, waterfalls and caverns. He has a large estate in Hawaii, and an expensive hobby following the Formula One circuit (his collection of racing memorabilia includes a Formula One tyre which he uses as a doorstop). It is no coincidence that the Anthology project only really got going in January 1992, just after the disaster at Handmade became fully apparent.

Although he is the Beatle who wrote "Taxman ", Harrison has a justified reputation for unworldliness. His all-star Concert for Bangladesh, which took place in New York in 1971, led to an 11-year lawsuit over costs because he had not registered the event as a charity benefit with the Internal Revenue Service. Another legal battle is still going on after 20 years over his biggest hit, "My Sweet Lord ", and the exact damages he should pay for copying the Chiffons's "He's So Fine".

Harrison became involved in the film world in the late Seventies through his fanatical admiration for Monty Python and, in particular, his friendship with Eric Idle. He mortgaged Friar Park to finance Life of Brian, a script that no one else would touch. By 1981, the film had grossed pounds 40 million worldwide.

He and O'Brien established Handmade in 1978. O'Brien had been his manager since 1973 - the two had been introduced by Peter Sellers - and O'Brien had won his trust by sorting out the mess of his tax affairs after the Beatles ended. In quick succession, Handmade produced a string of modest but well-received hits, including Withnail and I (1986) with Richard E Grant, A Private Function (1984, Maggie Smith and Michael Palin) and The Long Good Friday (1979, Bob Hoskins). Harrison took a back seat, but his Beatle name undoubtedly attracted key talent, and before long he was being welcomed as yet another saviour of the British film industry.

Then, suddenly, it went wrong. A series of expensive flops - Water (1985, with Billy Connolly), Shanghai Surprise (1986, Madonna and Sean Penn), The Raggedy Rawney (1987, Hoskins again), and Checking Out (1988, Jeff Daniels) - had registered losses of pounds 10 million by 1991. Last year, the company was sold at a knock down price of pounds 5 million to a Canadian company, Paragon. No one has yet adequately explained why one of the most successful British film companies in decades should have fallen apart so fast, except that its determination to make ever bigger films made it more vulnerable. Harrison, who underwrote the company with O'Brien, still has to pick up some of the debts, perhaps amounting to as much as pounds 10 million - hence the court action in Los Angeles, and another in Guernsey, where Harrison's lawyers are foraging through O'Brien's offshore interests.

If the case comes to court, it will be a story of friendship and betrayal - and trusting people is one of Harrison's more endearing traits. "His real gift, and he has many, is for friendship," says Derek Taylor, who has remained close to him.

Indeed, Harrison's friends are an eclectic mix of musical and motoring types: they include Ravi Shankar (still his musical mentor, with whom he went on holiday this year), Alvin Lee (the guitarist in Ten Years After), the impresario Michael White, and Paul Stewart (the son of racing driver Jackie Stewart). His up-and-down friendship with Eric Clapton, who in 1974 married Patti Boyd, Harrison's first wife, took another knock, apparently, when the two fell out over money on a tour of Japan in 1991. As for McCartney, they have started to bump along again. Their reconciliation began in December 1992, when they met in California. The next day, 11 December, McCartney told a press conference for his own world tour that the Beatles were intending a musical reunion. If Harrison felt Paul had jumped the gun, he seems now to have got over it - a far cry from the days when, asked if he had a message for Paul, he simply raised his finger. "Yeah," he replied, "give him this!"

Away from music, he does yoga and meditation, potters in his greenhouses, and practises the ukelele. He is a fervent member of the George Formby Appreciation Society, and last year appeared with his son, Dhani, now 16, at a Formby convention in Blackpool. When Bob Dylan, a fellow member of The Travelling Wilburys, comes to visit, the two of them sometimes sit and watch old Formby movies; he and Dylan, one of his oldest friends, have the same deadpan sense of humour.

In 1973, Harrison donated a large house in the tiny village of Letchmore Heath, Hertfordshire, to the International Society for Krishna Consciousness. Bakhtivedanta Manor, formerly Piggots' Manor and now a Hindu shrine, is visited each year by robed and painted pilgrims in their tens of thousands. Harrison, of course, will always be remembered as the Beatle who followed the Maharishi, and he's still drawn to Eastern mysticism, fond of delivering gnomic remarks in his adenoidal Scouse. Ghandi's "Create and preserve the image of your choice" is a favourite nostrum.

Yet his attitude to religion seems distinctly pragmatic. He has been reported as saying that he could never fully embrace Hare Krishna because he cannot agree that sex is only for procreation. There speaks a true son of Liverpool, which is how, despite everything, he remains

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Did George express appreciation to Paul for doing Anthology to help him out financially?

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No, Paul thanked Denis O'Brien for backing George into a corner where he had to say yes. It's kind of like George's grudging acceptance that they were going to play on the roof.

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Ron Nasty said

No, Paul thanked Denis O'Brien for backing George into a corner where he had to say yes. It's kind of like George's grudging acceptance that they were going to play on the roof.

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I doubt that Ron is being serious.

Why would George thank Paul? Its not like Paul only did it to help out George, Paul had been keen for the ex-Beatles to do something together for years and would occasionally mention it in the press - something that pissed off George. 

The option was always there as I doubt Paul would ever say no and Ringo wouldn't have been so against it to decline, it was George who needed a bigger reason or prod than just doing it because they could. He certainly didn't do it out of the pure sheer desire to work with Paul again or to enter back into Beatlemania.

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What I heard was that Paul wanted to do something Beatle related, and George finally said yes (after initially being against doing anything Beatles) because he was having financial problems.

Either way, I don't see him being appreciative of Paul for doing something to help him out coz Paul always wanted to do something Beatle related near that time. 

 

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Love the quote from George in this article from the Daily Post on which team, if any, out of Liverpool and Everton the Beatles supported.

When asked which side he supported, though, Harrison would reply: “There are three teams in Liverpool and I prefer the other one.”

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