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Miscellaneous questions about George Harrison
19 September 2019
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Yep, Art of Dying was started in 1966, finished in late '67 (when he refers to "Sister Mary" in the second line, it was originally "Mr. Epstein").

Many of the All Things Must Pass  songs had been floating around for some time, @Leppo, due to the trouble George had getting his songs on Beatles albums.

And Hear Me Lord  is the correct title, written 4-5 January 1969, beginning of the Twickenham sessions.

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It's weird to think of the ATMP songs being written years before the album came out.

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Ron Nasty said
Yep, Art of Dying was started in 1966, finished in late '67 (when he refers to "Sister Mary" in the second line, it was originally "Mr. Epstein").

Many of the All Things Must Pass  songs had been floating around for some time, @Leppo, due to the trouble George had getting his songs on Beatles albums.

And Hear Me Lord  is the correct title, written 4-5 January 1969, beginning of the Twickenham sessions.

  

Actually I didn't realise two of these tracks are on All Things Must Pass which I have definitely played before so I must have heard these songs but I just couldn't remember them.

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@kelicopter asked in another thread

So when is George's birthday?!

The story (I thought) is that he always celebrated it on the 25th February, but in later life discovered he was actually born shortly before midnight on the 24th.

I also vaguely remember a quote by Olivia, where if you wished him Happy Birthday on the 24th, he would say "it's not my birthday yet" and if you said in on the 25th he'd say "you missed it."

How much of that is true and how much is myth?! Does anyone have the original source of that Olivia quote?

Okay, the mystery of George's date and time of birth... How did it change? Why did it change?

George's date and time of birth is recorded as being at around 10 minutes after midnight on the 25th February. There are stories that his mother, Louise, would ring him at that time, wherever he was in the world, to wish him a happy birthday.

Then, in the 5 December 1992 issue of Billboard (a PDF of which can be found here), on the event of George being awarded their inaugural Century Award, an interview with George began with a paragraph which stated that George was born at 11:42pm on the 24th:

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Where did they get that from? George, and he knew it would surprise most, as shown by the issue's Contents entry for the article:

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"I only recently learned after all these years that the date and time of my own birth have always been off by one calender day and about half an hour on the clock."

So, how did George learn that the date and time were wrong?

The first thing to dismiss is that it had anything to do with British Summer Time (BST) – which is Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), now commonly known as Universal Time Coordinated (UTC), +1 hour – remaining in place throughout the winter between 1940 and 1947, as ignoring it wouldn't have shifted George's birthday by half an hour as the UK is all within one timezone, and BST is +1 hour not +½ hour.

There have been some suggestions that he discovered some family document that gave the earlier time. There is no evidence for this, and no such document has ever been found.

The strongest suggestion is that his astrologer came up with his new time of birth by looking for the birth chart closest to his original time of birth that best fitted his life:

Astrological blogger Mary Barron points out that Beatle George Harrison was so into astrology he had his birth chart rectified to make certain he had the right time and date. He didn’t.

Rectifying a birth chart is a sophisticated process that requires matching the progress of transiting planets and angles with actual events in an individual's life. Harrison was born near midnight and, before his chart was rectified, the date was recorded as February 25 at 12:05 a.m. However, Harrison‘s astrologer fixed the time a half-hour earlier on February 24 at 11:35 p.m., and the rock star emerged as an individual whose life experiences were more in sync with his astrological map.

Barron explains that Harrison closely identified with his Pisces birth sign and rectification didn’t change his sun sign. His deeply moving song, "Pisces Fish," appeared on Brainwashed – the album released posthumously in 2002 after its production was completed by his son. "It's a song deep with Piscean perspective," she noted.

"I'm living proof of all life's contradictions," Harrison sang. "One half's going where the other half's just been. I'm a Pisces fish and the river runs through my soul."

After rectification, the moon in Harrison's chart remained in Scorpio, the sign known for probing the mysterious, for life-and-death concerns and for a "certain darkness," Harrison called himself a dark horse more often than he called himself a fish, Barron noted.

What most changed with rectification was the astrological sign rising on the eastern horizon at the time of Harrison's birth, which moved from Scorpio back into the late degrees of Libra with the correction.

"Libra adds a certain intellectual detachment, a love of beauty and a need for balance. Where the sun sign indicates the basic ego-sense of self, the moon represents one's emotional nature and the ascendant or rising sign one's dealings with the outer world. All come through with great strength in Harrison’s theme song for his sun sign," she said.

Times are recalled wrong in the above, but it seems George changed his date and time of birth on the advice of an astrologer who told him an astrological chart based on a time of 11:42pm on the 24th was a better fit for his life than the one based on his given time and date of ten past midnight on the 25th.

As Mark Lewisohn notes in Tune In:

Both Louises, George's mother and sister, gave the date of birth as 25 February 1943, which was also how it was registered the next day, and on the baptism certificate soon after, and was always written and celebrated until the 1990s ... when George decided to announce he'd been born on the 24th.

So, it seems, all the evidence is the 25th, and a little George eccentricity and an astrologer moved it to the 24th.

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I was talking to someone in Liverpool who had lived there his entire life blah blah, ended up somehow getting onto George and he was telling me "you know he was born just before midnight but the midwife took her time writing out the details of his birth for the birth cert and looked at her watch past midnight so it was obviously the 25th and she put that down on her notes.

Where he was getting that from I don't know so a massive pinch of salt there.

 

Never have so many damns been given about a dead man's birthday- I swear. 

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@Ron Nasty that's so cool, thank you.

I, too, was once briefly thought to have Scorpio on my ascendant, until I learned that my ascendant was actually Libra, which made more sense for me anyway, but my birth time wasn't changed over it... ahdn_george_06

I can easily imagine there being some confusion around the specific time, but the fact that it was near midnight certainly makes it more dramatic. Whatever the case, naturally, I'm going to continue celebrating both days -- I need the extra time to get through all his albums. a-hard-days-night-john-6

Moral of the story: write down the exact time when you pop your kids out, especially if it's close to midnight, and especially if they're gonna be world-famous Beatles bois! a-hard-days-night-paul-5

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