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meanmistermustard

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15 July 2014 - 12.35am

I listened to it on youtube and aside from the title track and Ding Dong, Ding Dong (as mentioned in my previous comment above) the only other track i found to be of interest was Simply Shady. So Sad was decent but the rest were unremarkable, Hari's On Tour (Express) reminded me of a 70's tv show theme tune.

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15 July 2014 - 1.06am

^ I'll have to listen to Extra Texture again, but overall Dark Horse seemed a bit more energetic, which to me is important to a rock album (though technically the former is not rock, it's more like funk/soul.) I enjoyed Maya Love as well as the above mentioned, but I'll agree Hari's On Tour is nothing too exciting. It starts good for me, but it's too long overall and repetitive in parts.

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15 July 2014 - 4.19pm

Yeah, I was surprised to hear those funk/soul elements in ExTex! But I guess that's the way the winds were blowing in the mid-late '70s. Paul & John (Ringo too?) were having hits in that kinda R&B bag.

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23 July 2014 - 2.49pm

Examiner article on possible remasters of Dark Horse and Extra Texture coming out.

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27 July 2014 - 4.41pm

meanmistermustard said
I listened to it on youtube and aside from the title track and Ding Dong, Ding Dong (as mentioned in my previous comment above) the only other track i found to be of interest was Simply Shady. So Sad was decent but the rest were unremarkable, Hari's On Tour (Express) reminded me of a 70's tv show theme tune.

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7 March 2015 - 5.59am

i've always listened to the two albums and for me dark horse is a good album after all. some songs are weak, it's true (bye bye love, is it he) but others are fascinating (far east man, simply shady, dh, hari's on tour) and i like the production style, more rock oriented and less influenced by the spector style. it has often reached bad reviews beacuse it followed two masterpieces but in its way is a good album. otherwise extra texture is a great album, except for the production style, again spectorized. too many musicians, too much effects that tends to cover the voice and the guitar. it's a pity cause the songs are great. it's George attempt to do soul music: the wonderful tribute to smokey robinson (followed by the even more beatiful pure smokey the following year); the tribute to billy eckstine with You, wich could have been a great rocker if less overproduced. i also like the sweetness of the answer's at the end, with the delicious piano in the end, and the bitterness oh This guitar. one of Geoirge bests, actually

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20 March 2015 - 3.54am

Giving "Dark Horse" a bit of a listen right now for the first time...a few thoughts

- Fantastic assortment of guitar tones and textures in the instrumental opener, for the first minute. After that, unfortunately, more of that mewling Tom Scott sax. Whole thing grooves along nicely enough, though the tune isn't great. It's called "Hari's On Tour" and I'll bet it was recorded specially as a concert opener. 

- "Simply Shady" is an OK song. Slow, like The Band or one of their imitators.

- "So Sad" kinda reminds me of "Blow Away", which I kinda liked in 1979. But I was eleven and I liked practically everything on the radio that year (kept it on literally 24+ hours some summer weekends) Much of it makes me cringe now, unfortunately.

- Covering "Bye Bye Love" in a weird folk-funk style? And cheerfully calling out Eric "The Clapper" Clapton? Peculiar.

- Really don't like the Big Ben song. (Funny how Paul used the same idea for "Let 'em In" a coupla yars later)

- I'm really liking this title cut. (Who would've guessed that Tom Scott would be much more enjoyable and full-sounding on flute? sure not me!)

- "Far East Man"'s pretty good too. Slow soul song with a heavy horn arrangement. Completely unexpected (that title!) until you remember that it was 1974. 

- And of course, it wouldn't be a George Harrison album without a Krishna chant-driven track. Not bad, but would've been better had the singer been in better voice (as throughout.)

 

Altogether, an OK record, I think (after one listening.)

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27 July 2015 - 10.44am

About to listen to Extra Texture and I must say I love this cover: 

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 At first it just looks like the words 'EXTRA TEXTURE' on an orange background, but then you realise that the extra texture behind the lettering is George's face. a-hard-days-night-george-9

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27 July 2015 - 11.10am

Awesome, let me know what you think. I believe it is highly underrated. One of my favorites.

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27 July 2015 - 12.01pm

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I enjoyed it, although admittedly it was not very Harrisonic. My favourites were 'You', 'This Guitar (Can't Keep From Crying)', and 'Tired Of Midnight Blue'. 

Disclaimer: The following is strictly in my humble opinion. 

'The Answer's At The End' seemed a little forced, and 'Can't Stop Thinking Of You' was a little repetitious, although rather apt-- it seems he could not get that word off his mind. 🙂  'His Name Is Legs (Ladies And Gentlemen)' was fun. It reminded me very much of Dark Hoarse, only less hoarse. 'You' had much the same effect on me as 'What Is Life' has: 

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'This Guitar (Can't Keep From Crying)' sounds like a terrible idea-- a sequel to While My Guitar Gently Weeps? Really? Is Harrison stooping to new lows?-- but it works. To my mind it sounded vaguely Pink Floydish (which was part of what saved it, I'm sure, that it wasn't just a WMGGW mock-up). (As it so happens, Wish You Were Here was released ten days before Extra Texture.) 

'Tired Of Midnight Blue' was interestingly bouncy, with good keyboards and nice little bluesy chord shifts, and great slide guitar (of course!). 

 

So there are my thoughts on the much-maligned ExTex album. An interesting listen, enjoyed it more than I thought I would, will now return to our regularly scheduled Beatles programming. ahdn_george_06 

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27 July 2015 - 12.22pm

I'm glad someone else liked it!

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29 July 2015 - 2.59pm

I like both albums.

George's sense of humor is in good form with the track off Extra Texture, 'A Bit More Of You'. One would be hard pressed to find a more literal title for a track. a-hard-days-night-george-4
I laugh to myself every time I hear it.

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30 July 2015 - 4.47am

I quite like "dark horse" even if georges vocals sound a bit shot. "maya love" strikes me as a wee nod to paul, and barring the horrific everly brothers cover and the cringey "ding dong"  i think the record worked quite well and using the LA express guys was a good idea. "simply shady" sees george confronting his drinking/drug taking/womanising with a mixture of wry humour,sensitivity and resolve. It's a great track.

I haven't heard "extra texture" in years so will dig it out soon.

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21 January 2016 - 12.26pm

Listened to ExTex again-- I'd not done so since I posted above a-hard-days-night-paul-4-- and I enjoyed it more than I expected. 

In my opinion it's George's least Harrisonic album (which may be part of its lack of success when it came out), but enjoyable nonetheless. It's what happens when you give a George a diet purely consisting of Smokey Robinson and Motown records, and then cross-breed his guitar with David Gilmour's. a-hard-days-night-george-10 

Well, I think his slide on this album sounded Floydish, anyway. 

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21 January 2016 - 1.33pm

Silly Girl said
Listened to ExTex again-- I'd not done so since I posted above a-hard-days-night-paul-4-- and I enjoyed it more than I expected. 

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21 January 2016 - 1.42pm

She was angry at me because I confiscated her copy of Extra Texture. I wouldn't give it back until she listened to reason and gave it another spin.

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18 February 2016 - 7.51am

gave "extra texture" a spin.... and i rather enjoyed it.

Very keyboard orientated,and a lot of mellow soul influences in the tracks. It makes for a nicely contemplative listen,george is clearly in a reflective mood at this point and it feels like he is moving on.

It runs out of steam by 'tired of midnight blue' though and george's voice strains a lot on some of the tracks but it's a fair effort and certainly no disaster. Although 'dark horse' has maybe the stronger individual moments i might be more inclined to play this. 

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31 March 2016 - 1.42pm

I absolutely love Extra Texture.  I can understand some folks reaction to it; however, as someone mentioned earlier, it is a great "moody" album -- definitely not a "rocker".    Most of the songs are rather piano-based, introspective, quite beautiful and well put-together.   I'm probably in a minority on this, but World of Stone is a favorite.   I think you have to be in a certain mood to really enjoy/understand this album.  Do give it a few listen-throughs before you decide.

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31 March 2016 - 4.27pm

Totally agree. Welcome to the forum.

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