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Funny Paper
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1 November 2012 - 1.41pm

I found an interesting topic on George vs. Paul on bass and wanted to add a reply, but found it was "locked".

 

Why on earth would a forum lock a topic?  That kind of discourages new members.

 

I can see why a Politics forum would lock a topic, if it gets too heated or trolls start posting -- but a music forum???

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1 November 2012 - 3.34pm

I dont remember much about that thread except for arguements.
I think at times on the site (and anywhere else in life and online) discussions can get a little heated due to differing opinions. Topics may therefore be locked because the thread resorts to getting nowhere but going over the same things again and again whilst getting pretty rowdy and at times unpleasant. 99.8% of the time however its a very peaceful, enjoyable place to be with a desire held by all for politeness and respect regardless of views held. I know for a fact the mods and administrator would never lock a thread without good reason and only as a last resort.

There is one topic (which shall remain nameless) that sends shivers down my spine at the mere thought of ever seeing it starting up again. I thought about getting counselling the last time.

Welcome to the site by the way. Hopefully you will stick around and post elsewhere.

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Funny Paper
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1 November 2012 - 10.51pm

Thanks for the welcome, meanmistermustard.

 

meanmistermustard said There is one topic (which shall remain nameless) that sends shivers down my spine at the mere thought of ever seeing it starting up again. I thought about getting counselling the last time.

 

That only whets my curiosity!

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Von Bontee
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2 November 2012 - 4.38pm

He's referring to this:

http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo.....l-or-john/

The topic is something of a joke around here, and gets alluded to in other threads occasionally.

Welcome to the forum! :)

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2 November 2012 - 7.04pm

Anyone got any cyanide (just in case)?

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Funny Paper
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3 November 2012 - 6.40am

Von Bontee said
He's referring to this:

http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo.....l-or-john/

The topic is something of a joke around here, and gets alluded to in other threads occasionally.

Welcome to the forum! :)

Thanks Von Bontee, and thanks for the link.  (I just re-listened to "A Day In The Life" and it seems clear to my ears that all the "Ahhhs" are John's.  If it is Paul, he's doing as good an impersonation of John as Kevin Spacey does of Johnny Carsona-hard-days-night-john-3...)

 

I haven't read through that topic thread yet, but my curiosity will probably get the better of me!

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3 November 2012 - 6.48am

Funny Paper said

Von Bontee said
He's referring to this:

http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo.....l-or-john/

The topic is something of a joke around here, and gets alluded to in other threads occasionally.

Welcome to the forum! :)

Thanks Von Bontee, and thanks for the link.  (I just re-listened to "A Day In The Life" and it seems clear to my ears that all the "Ahhhs" are John's.  If it is Paul, he's doing as good an impersonation of John as Kevin Spacey does of Johnny Carsona-hard-days-night-john-3...)

 

I haven't read through that topic thread yet, but my curiosity will probably get the better of me!

Well, I just read the first page of it -- then I noticed there are FIFTEEN PAGES!!!  No way, I'm reading all that about that one tangent.  (What should irk those who feel passionately about it all the more is that there is one person who can settle the question once and for all, still alive!a-hard-days-night-paul-11)

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3 November 2012 - 1.53pm

paulsbass said

Funny Paper said
 

Thanks Von Bontee, and thanks for the link.  (I just re-listened to "A Day In The Life" and it seems clear to my ears that all the "Ahhhs" are John's.

Just when I thought you were on MY side...paul-mccartney

You don't need to go through all the pages, I explain all you need to know on page one, everything else is more or less redundant. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

 

I know someone who asked about that on Paul's Facebook site but never got a reply.

Maybe someone should try on twitter??

Another user tried that with George Martin.

paulsbass,

The argument you articulate on page one is structurally sound, but it's not definitive.  Without the actual proof from McCartney or Martin, this debate resembles innumerable political or theological debates where both sides seem to be arguably possibly right, in a close but no cigar kind of way.  At any rate, the crux of your argument I think is the "chest" singing of Paul, which I agree he has; I just don't hear it sufficiently in any part of those "Ahhhs".  Voice amplification and close proximity to the mic also helps -- indeed,John's voice in most of his lines has a degree of depth and power that sounds artificially amplified to my ears.  There's something else about the difference between John and Paul's voices:  John even when young had a kind of "old man" quality to his voice, which Paul never had -- and I hear that "old man" in those "Ahhhhs" right from the initial point all the way through to when they fade.

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3 November 2012 - 6.38pm

Seriously has anyone got any cyanide? If not then how about arsenic.

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mr. Sun king coming together
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3 November 2012 - 6.41pm

a-hard-days-night-ringo-8If you want arsenic just smoke a cigarette.

 

(I'm not even kidding.)

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

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3 November 2012 - 7.57pm

THIS is the sort of reason why a topic might get locked. Someone asks a valid question, then it careers off into a vortex of irrelevance.

Please, I'm begging you, don't turn this thread into another "Who did the bloody Aaahs in ADITL". I don't think I could cope! There's already a thread for that.

stay-on-topic

Funny Paper said
I found an interesting topic on George vs. Paul on bass and wanted to add a reply, but found it was "locked".

 

Why on earth would a forum lock a topic?  That kind of discourages new members.

 

I can see why a Politics forum would lock a topic, if it gets too heated or trolls start posting -- but a music forum???

Can you provide a link to the thread in question? Probably it descended into petty bickering or got hopelessly off-topic with no way to revive it. Maybe I was having a bad day.

As for the general principle of locking topics, I generally prefer light-touch moderation and try to steer people in the right direction rather than stopping them from doing stuff. Sometimes, though, I get a bit fed up when people are stupid and might decide to close the discussion. It happens very rarely though. We're all human - nobody's perfect.

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3 November 2012 - 8.58pm

If new folks want to discuss ADITL provide the links to the 2 threads on it (the first one was eventually locked) & let them read the first few pages. That'll put a stop to their curiosity for all time.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

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3 November 2012 - 9.45pm

paulsbass said

Here's the bass thread

http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo.....-v-george/

OK, thanks. I think my reason in the final post on that thread still stands. IIRC there were quite a few threads like that at the time, which ended up as stupid slanging matches involving people who didn't know when to walk away. It was ruining the forum. I'm always grateful when people contribute to this site to make it better, but nobody would bother if it was full of bickering and arguing, especially if those arguments have nothing to do with The Beatles.

I haven't re-read all of that thread, but if you want to start another on that topic go right ahead.

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3 November 2012 - 11.01pm

Thanks Joe and paulsbass and others.

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4 November 2012 - 8.55pm

paulsbass said

Joe said
I haven't re-read all of that thread, but if you want to start another on that topic go right ahead.

Aaaargh, you gotta be kidding!

It was a ridiculous thread from the beginning and not even a real topic, so the hell I will do, rest assured!

That invitation was really aimed at Funny Paper - see his/her original post.

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5 November 2012 - 4.38am

I think we can all agree that Mr.Big was pretty annoying

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