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Great idea.

 

Paul's Taxman solo? (The only other possibility is And You Bird Can Sing but I think Paul and George recorded their parts together so probably not).

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Can't be 'Martha My Dear' as George wasn't there.

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That's Linda so must be later than 'Strawberry Fields', would guess 'Abbey Road ' times.

Good thread, tho can we lose the re-colourised photos.

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The Ringo one was actually Carry That Weight and for the other one, I don't know what other song could it possibly be. Also, do you know how to recover a post because I was writing a bigger post but the page refreshed on me before I was able to submit it.

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I Feel Fine

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I don't think they are recording I feel fine there since they got their Fender bassman during the Rubber Soul sessions. That and Paul using the Fuzz-tone in his bass... it might be the Think For Yourself sessions or so... also that chair ... doesn't look like the typical Studio 2 chair... probably they were at a different location... maybe rehearsing for a tour or something

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I guess it's not I Feel Fine , which I originally thought it was him playing the first note of, but I don't think it's Think For Yourself either because I'm pretty sure Paul used his Rickenbacker on that song.

http://www.thecanteen.com/mcca.....tney6.html

http://www.rickbeat.com/beatle.....eatles.htm

It's funny because it seems like Paul's bass playing was average at best with his Hofner but when he got his Rickenbacker his bass playing started to really get good.

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Shamrock Womlbs said

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I Feel Fine

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I don't think they are recording I feel fine there since they got their Fender bassman during the Rubber Soul sessions. That and Paul using the Fuzz-tone in his bass... it might be the Think For Yourself sessions or so... also that chair ... doesn't look like the typical Studio 2 chair... probably they were at a different location... maybe rehearsing for a tour or something  

So .. yup, they were at Donmar .

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Can't be 'Martha My Dear' as George wasn't there.
 

Let's so some process of elimination to determine what song's being recorded:

To start, I am going to get out a proper version of this picture

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Let's eliminate:

1. George is using his Les Paul, which leaves us with these songs that were recorded after 7/8/1968 (using UK dating system) and contain George on his Les Paul:

Back In The U.S.S.R.

Dear Prudence

While My Guitar Gently Weeps

Martha My Dear

Birthday

Yer Blues

Sexy Sadie

Helter Skelter

Savoy Truffle

Come Together

Something

Maxwell's Silver Hammer

Oh! Darling

I Want You (She's So Heavy)

Polythene Pam

Carry That Weight

The End

I Me Mine

Let It Be

2. Paul is singing and playing piano, so let's get rid of the songs where Paul isn't on lead vocals and or songs where Paul doesn't play the piano:

Back In The U.S.S.R.

Martha My Dear

Birthday

Maxwell's Silver Hammer

Oh! Darling

Carry That Weight

The End

Let It Be

3. There are session musicians with trumpets, so let's remove any song that lacks brass parts played by outsiders

Martha My Dear

Carry That Weight

Let It Be

4. That leaves us with 3 song possibilities, so let's eliminate each song one by one:

It can't be Let It Be because they didn't add the brass until April 1st, 1970 and it can't be Carry That Weight because there's no strings in the picture and also, look at what George looked like at the time.

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Here's a picture of what seems to be from the recording session for the song Come Together and as you can see, George's hair is a lot longer than it is in the picture which has George's 1968 look.

In conclusion, the photo is from the Martha My Dear sessions and confirms that George played guitar on the song or at the very least participated in a couple of run-thru's before Paul took over. But you know what, I'm going to let the experts solve this, so hopefully someone such as @Ron Nasty or @Joe can look over this and tell me if there are any faults in my claim.

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I'm fairly sure you're right, @Dark Overlord. Good detective work.

The photo is by Linda McCartney, and appears in her book Sixties. It's mislabelled as the Honey Pie recording, but that was on the same day as the Martha My Dear overdub, 4 October 1968. It's at Trident Studios, and the string players' chairs are presumably behind the brass ones.

Back row, l-r:

Tuba player Alf Reece; trombonist Ted Barker; French horn player Tony Tunstall.

Front row (not sure who is who):

Trumpeters Leon Calvert, Stanley Reynolds and Ronnie Hughes. Leon Calvert also overdubbed a flugelhorn part later in the session.

It's interesting that George is on guitar. I might have to do some more digging around for info.

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I'd have to agree with @Joe, @Dark Overlord. It's difficult to think of a better fit than the Martha session.

Lewisohn says in his introduction to the session that:

It is difficult to tell for sure, even by referring to the master eight-track recording, but MMD - excepting the strings and horns overdub - may well have been another one-man Paul McCartney recording...

Lewisohn also has Paul McCartney doing a guitar overdub (along with a bass) the following day.

So, how to explain George's presence on the 4th?

There would seem to me to be two possible explanations, one which has George on the track, while the other doesn't.

Assuming the photo is the Martha session, George is on guitar, and it's just been assumed as a one-man McCartney track because it's difficult to tell otherwise from the master, and that there was just a bass overdub on the 5th.

The other possibility that should be considered is that there was a guitar overdub by Paul on the 5th, and that he wiped George's contribution on the 4th in the process.

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Both of those explanations sound like things The Beatles would've and have done. Also, I think it's possible that George was on the backing track for earlier takes, but left for some reason and had Paul overdub the guitar. Also, as good as he can be, Mark Lewisohn does seem to make mistakes. For example, when he's interviewing Paul at the beginning of the book, Paul tells him that he played guitar on The Ballad Of John And Yoko , only for Mark to say "no you didn't", it'd be like you telling me "I went to see KISS back in 1975" only for me to tell you "no you didn't" despite me not being there and not knowing you at the time.

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@Joe said
The photo is by Linda McCartney, and appears in her book Sixties. It's mislabelled as the Honey Pie recording, but that was on the same day as the Martha My Dear overdub, 4 October 1968. It's at Trident Studios, and the string players' chairs are presumably behind the brass ones.

Back row, l-r:

Tuba player Alf Reece; trombonist Ted Barker; French horn player Tony Tunstall.

Front row (not sure who is who):

Trumpeters Leon Calvert, Stanley Reynolds and Ronnie Hughes. Leon Calvert also overdubbed a flugelhorn part later in the session.

Front row, difficult to get to the one on the left without a process of elimination so we'll start in the middle.

Here is a picture of Leon Calvert in the late '50s/early '60s:

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I would say that is definitely Leon Calvert in the centre seat.

Which leaves us with those sitting either side to correctly identify.

This is trickier. On the left turned away, and on the right side profile, with pictures of either hard to find.

This, however, is Ronnie Hughes in the mid-'50s:

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While this is a Stan Reynolds album cover from the early '70s (it includes My Love among its covers):

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Obviously, difficult to compare, but I lean toward the order being (l-r) Ronnie Hughes, Leon Calvert, Stan Reynolds.

Part of my reasoning is that (in another picture) Reynolds appears to have the lighter hair.

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I recently found this picture, so I decided to determine what session it was from.

Paul McCartney and George Harrison recording the White Album, 1968. Photo by Linda McCartney.Image Enlarger

Let's use some process of elimination:

1. It seems to be from The Beatles sessions, which leaves us with:

anything from The Beatles

Hey Jude

Revolution

2. It was supposedly recorded in Trident studios, which according to this list (post #12) leaves us with these songs:

Dear Prudence

Martha My Dear

Honey Pie

Savoy Truffle

Hey Jude

3. We know it's not Hey Jude because George is using his Les Paul in this picture, which he first used on August 7th, 1968 during the Not Guilty sessions, whereas Hey Jude was recorded on July 30th, 1968, leaving us with this:

Dear Prudence

Martha My Dear

Honey Pie

Savoy Truffle

4. We know it isn't Honey Pie because John played guitar on that song, leaving us with this:

Dear Prudence

Martha My Dear

Savoy Truffle

5. We know it isn't from Martha My Dear because the picture we just determined was from Martha My Dear has both George and Paul wearing different clothing and it seems unlikely that George came in the following day for overdubs and also if you notice, George is bending an E note on the 9th fret of the G string, something that doesn't happen in Martha My Dear (there are no guitar bends whatsoever in this song) or Dear Prudence , leaving us with one option left:

This picture was taken during the sessions for Savoy Truffle .

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I recently found this picture, so I decided to determine what session it was from.

Paul McCartney and George Harrison recording the White Album, 1968. Photo by Linda McCartney.Image Enlarger

4. We know it isn't Honey Pie because John played guitar on that song, leaving us with this:

Dear Prudence

Martha My Dear

Savoy Truffle

Just because John isn't in the picture doesn't mean he wasn't present. He could have been opposite George, this not in the photograph. 

So I'd probably go for Savoy Truffle or Honey Pie

 

I must say, I always really enjoy it when you use the process of elimination (or any process really) to determine the songs. It's fascinating!

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Like I said, it can't be Honey Pie because John played guitar on that song, I can even give you proof from The Beatles Book Monthly, which I value more than other sources because it was written while The Beatles were still around by Mal Evans and Neil Aspinall (although some believe that this stuff was ghostwritten), both of whom were regularly at the sessions.

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I should clarify myself on that earlier post, John played the only guitar in Honey Pie , George played bass.

Anyways, what song is this from:

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Let's see if i can try to confirm what song is being recorded here:

1. It looks like it's from The BEATLES sessions, which leaves us with a lot of song choices.

2. Those pictures were recorded at Trident studios, which leaves us with:

Dear Prudence

Martha My Dear

Honey Pie

Savoy Truffle

Hey Jude

3. It's not Martha My Dear because we confirmed that this picture was from that session and George has facial hair in this picture whereas he's clean shaven in the other.

4. It can't be Savoy Truffle either because we confirmed that this picture was from that session and as with Martha My Dear , he's not clean shaven in this one.

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5. It can't be Honey Pie because George didn't play guitar on that song and also, George had a mustache at the time whereas the picture we're thinking about has George clean shaven.

That leaves us with either Hey Jude or Dear Prudence .

Let's have a recap of the pictures we're trying to confirm.

Found a new picture from the session by the way.

At this point, you might think that it could be either Hey Jude or Dear Prudence but here's some video of them recording Hey Jude .

If you notice closely, they're wearing different clothing (most notably Paul's shirt is white in the video but black in the photo) than in the pictures above.

This means that these photos were taken while The Beatles were recording Dear Prudence which means that George played a Gibson SG for at least some parts of that song if not all of his parts. This is further confirmed by the lack of Ringo in the pictures.

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It seems like i possibly made an error or a fascinating discovery when labeling those pictures to be from the Dear Prudence session.

Take a look at this:

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Notice the guy who you can only see from behind. At first i brushed him off until i saw this.

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It's a picture of Ringo wearing that same shirt, which means one of 3 things:

1. Someone else is wearing Ringo's shirt or a shirt identical to it.

2. I messed up and those photos are from a different session.

3. Ringo was present for the Dear Prudence sessions and Mal wasn't making things up after all.

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Almost forgot to @Ron Nasty maybe he can try to help me out on this.

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Now that i think of it, was this picture even taken at Trident.

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Could this picture actually be a shot of EMI studios.

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