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Why is Beatles For Sale so underrated
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26 March 2018
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Joey Self said
I think if I'd heard BFS without knowing it followed AHDN , I would have liked it better.  I hear it as a retreat, at least because of the covers.  I am not that crazy about "I'm A Loser " and "Baby's In Black ," and "Mr. Moonlight" should have been the one we first got on ANTHOLOGY, with "Leave My Kitten Alone " in its place.

Also, it is the album that suffers most from the "no singles on albums" policy.  Sure, WITH THE BEATLES would have been improved with "I Want To Hold Your Hand /This Boy ," Rubber Soul could have used "We Can Work It Out /Day Tripper " and REVOLVER could have been even better with "Paperback Writer /Rain " (or at least "Rain "), but those albums had enough other things going for them, the loss of two tracks from the sessions as a single didn't hurt like pulling "I Feel Fine /She's A Woman " from BFS.  Those that remarked that BEATLES '65 was better are probably basing that in large part on the inclusion of the single. 

That's not to say the album is without charm.  I like the trio of originals that appear on side two in consecutive order.  "Rock And Roll Music " is a good cover; someone in this thread opined it might have been a good album opener, and that had not occurred to me.  The record would open with Lennon imploring "Just let me hear some of that Rock And Roll Music ..." 

So, of the 63-65 output, what I consider the "early" phase of their career, I'd put it 4th, ahead of PPM and WTB, but behind AHDN , HELP! and Rubber Soul .  Thus, I guess I'd answer the question "Why is BFS so underrated?" by saying "that assumes a fact not in evidence--I don't know that it IS underrated as much as it is properly assessed." 

 

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Good points well made. WTB and BFS are definitely the albums that suffer most from the high amount of covers and the low amount of originals. 

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Heath said
"I Feel Fine " spent three weeks at #1 in late '64/early '65 in the US, while "She's A Woman " made it to #4.  How we suffered through those weeks is the untold story the Beatles could still cover up in those early days.  You probably never heard about it elsewhere.  People having to turn off their radios every five minutes.  Billboards springing up overnight:

I FEEL FINE?  I'LL FEEL FINE when this piece of garbage is off the air - FOR GOOD!

SHE'S A  WOMAN?  SHE'S A PAWN to "Capitol"ism is what SHE IS!

Luckily for the Beatles, this all occurred prior to the days of hard-hitting journalism, such as found in Datebook magazine.  

I take it those two songs have gotten worn out for you, @Heath? a-hard-days-night-john-6

I like both songs quite a lot. ahdn_george_06 I didn't hear them over and over on the radio 1,000 times back in the day. mccartney-shrug_01_gif

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Beatlebug said

I take it those two songs have gotten worn out for you, @Heath? a-hard-days-night-john-6

I now see, @Beatlebug, my need to make use of smileys.  a-hard-days-night-john-6After the second sentence of my post, and another time or two, I should have put a a-hard-days-night-george-10Lastly, those two songs will never get worn out for me.  

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@Beatlebug @heath : I Feel Fine is definitely in my top ten Beatles tracks of all time. It's brilliant,plus i love the beginning,you know what I mean? Totally random and accidental,but it works heart

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I Feel Fine is so amazing! I discovered it too late due to my only listening to the albums and not the singles for a while... a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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@TheWalrusWasBrian: I agree paul-mccartney-thumb_gif. I remember you said you liked Martha. I posted a good pic with her in it on the 'Caption It' game that you may want to use for your avatar in future (though it's not in colour paul-mccartney-facepalm_gif)

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Father McKenzie said
@Beatlebug @heath : I Feel Fine is definitely in my top ten Beatles tracks of all time. It's brilliant,plus i love the beginning,you know what I mean? Totally random and accidental,but it works heart  

Absolutely. John’s vocals compliment that melody so well. His voice soars.

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Starr Shine? said
partualy due to the fact that I'm the only person who likes Mr. Moonlight  

You are not alone. I do like this song. The Hollies also covered it on their first album,  but I prefer the Beatles' version. 
 

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I love this album.

- the country-ish feel

- incredible vocals & harmonies - for me their voices never sounded better - esp. the open John/Paul harmonies on the bridges of "Baby's In Black ," "I Don't Want To Spoil The Party ," "No Reply ."

- George's Gretsch Tennessean (with HiLo-tron pickups!) - He got a great sound in "I'm A Loser ," "I Don't Want To Spoil The Party ," the Carl Perkins covers, etc.

It gets dissed by Beatles writers. Partly cause of the covers. I like the covers myself, even Mr. Moonlight (it's entertaining, and John sings the heck out of it).

This record is the last one to connect to their pre-Beatlemania repertoire. But it is more country/rockabilly than rock n roll. I like the sound.

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