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Sir Peter Jackson's The Beatles: Get Back
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meanmistermustard said
I mentioned hypocrisy and what I meant by that was that the Beatles were held up as publci-owned beacons (and healers) to society where every word and action was analysed, reported and judged yet were treated like pieces of worthless shit by many. John despised it and was one of the reasons why he wanted out, certainly of Beatlemania, by 1965.

Show business is full of stories of people who got what they wanted, only to find it wasn’t everything they expected it to be.  The Beatles could get out because they had the luxury to.  The Beatles had the luxury to get out, not just because they were wealthy and could look for more wealth coming in the future, but also because they could leverage their fame to continue to earn a living after the break up.  

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The whole Let It Be /Get Back project has now basically been thrown over to the public. Isolate and mix to your heart’s content. Add or delete tracks. Layer up? Strip down? Dig it! paul-mccartney

Unless Paul McCartney knocks on my door I am unlikely to be impressed.

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The whole Let It Be /Get Back project has now basically been thrown over to the public. Isolate and mix to your heart’s content. Add or delete tracks. Layer up? Strip down? Dig it! paul-mccartney

  

That’s been going on for years. ‘Rock Band’ enabled people to create new mixes (what used to be called outfakes) and isolations that made it incredibly difficult to know what exactly you were getting a lot of the time and if it was genuine. As technology has advanced the deluxe sets and other releases have been issued, it’s getting even harder to tells what’s what. You now can get stereo mixes of the BBC material. 
Truth be told a lot of it bores me. Here’s ‘Get Back ‘ with the bass replaced with the one from take 10 slowed down by 18%. 

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We’ve known this forever but the movie really puts it into focus: I dig how the guys enter the studio with the balls to make something happen in there. These days the songs would already be written with a facade of authenticity. A small moment I love is Paul asking if John had written any more songs, and he says no. He jokes he has Sunday free. That’s how he operated, writing all time classic songs when he needed to. This is my favourite movie of all time, and it’s so good seeing Billy Preston. No matter how things ended with Billy this is how I remember him. Preserved in a golden era of his life. I imagine an alternate timeline where he became the official fifth Beatle after the initial solo albums were out of the original member’s systems. All in all, this project is what I wanted it to be. 

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We’ve known this forever but the movie really puts it into focus: I dig how the guys enter the studio with the balls to make something happen in there. These days the songs would already be written with a facade of authenticity. Timothy said

I was thinking about this, and also the way they goofed around so much.  I’m guessing working this way wasn’t a luxury that most bands had.  The Beatles were likely given as much studio time as they wanted.  I imagine smaller bands had to be much more efficient in the way they worked.  

You hear a lot of rock and roll stores how bands would rent a big house or mansion when they wanted to jam up a bunch of songs for an album (for bands that worked that way).  Looks like the Beatles didn’t need to do this, they’d just come into the studio.

I also assume a lot of the goofing around comes from the unique way they were trying to record this album/film – without using overdubs.  Ordinarily, I expect there would be various Beatles coming in on various days to record their parts, instead of all of them needing to be there all of the time.

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Call it hindsight but you really feel that the guys couldn’t really do wrong, even with deadlines hanging over their heads. Putting their voice to something made it seem like it always existed. The magic of the Beatles is how they implanted their personalities into everything they did. 

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Call it hindsight but you really feel that the guys couldn’t really do wrong, even with deadlines hanging over their heads. 

Your point is valid, but when you think about it they didn’t really meet their deadline.  They had to settle for doing five songs on the roof (although I’m sure they could have done more), when they originally wanted 14.  They did manage to salvage a fairly weak (for them) album out of it.

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They also didn’t meet their initial goal (as nature intended) as all albums compiled by Glyn were rejected and the tapes were thrown at Phil Spector who added overdubs to a handful of tracks, edited bits out and added others in. Even before that, ‘Get Back ‘ had a different coda stitched on for the single and further work was carried out on ‘Don’t Let Me Down ‘ before they were released.

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Are there ANY News on the home release? 

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I doubt we’ll here any more until closer to its release, @KyleKartan. We just have to hope they don’t keep it as a Disney+ exclusive for too long, and that we’ll start to get more news not too far into 2022.

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The Beatles social media highlighted this article on the Sound & Vision website a couple of days ago…

The Making of The Beatles’ Let It Be and Peter Jackson’s Get Back

And I came across this lengthy interview (4 hours) from November on the Things We Said Today podcast…

Ken Michaels, Allan Kozinn and Darren DeVivo give us probably the best interview with Jackson on the project so far.

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Well, look at it this way: in the case of Anthology, if you want to go back to check out the TV version to compare with the VHS/DVD versions, you have to have or buy a VHS recording (or three separate tapes for each separate TV episode) to switch between versions.

When the home video version of Get Back comes out, if you ever want to just switch back to the 8-hour version, you have to go to Disney+ and do it without any extraneous effort! Plus, odds are likely that the 8-hour version will still get lot of traffic, even with the 14-hour version on Blu-ray, especially for the casual watchers.

Good article, by the way!

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Ron Nasty said

And I came across this lengthy interview (4 hours) from November on the Things We Said Today podcast…

I just came here to check if anyone had posted it! It’s fascinating, and covers so much ground.  I’ll bullet point a few things  here:

  • Apple has gone to some lengths to match audio bootlegs to recorded material but has more film material than they know what to do with. Jackson has offered to help them properly archive what they have because they have literally no idea what’s on most of the film they have in there.
  • It seems what really started Get Back was the desire on Apple’s part to figure out what they were missing, because they knew they were missing Nagra tapes but not which ones. So they started from trying to match bootlegs to the existing video and then with the recovered Nagra tapes and then Jackson’s team took it from there.
  • We got 8 hours of Get Back instead of 6.5 because Jackson deliberately put 2 hours in when Disney refused to do an extended version Bluray. He says no one has even commented on the extra 2 hours. Given the popular reaction, there’s a good chance we’ll get a Bluray release after the LIB release and so there’s hope of an extended release if that sells. It’s all about the money.
  • The process of making the documentary was incredibly involved, even down to specifically avoiding any shots from LIB itself, tagging any frames from the original movie on the running video that held any matched video and audio.
  • There are 40 tapes/10 hours of audio that have never been bootlegged. But Jackson was able to find 3 hours of the missing audio from the 16mil transfer film (“set mag”) that MLH used for his daily rushes, unfortunately this wasn’t a complete archive because Hogg didn’t use every day’s rushes if he didn’t think them necessary. But it’s still a incredibly lucky and valuable find, given that we may never find those 40 missing tapes.
  • edit: and there’s a very interesting thing at the end which I won’t spoil but I do hope Jackson follows up on because that is some quite intriguing stuff that challenges yet more Beatles mythic narratives.

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I have only watched Parts 1 & 2, and am saving Part 3 (with the rooftop performance) for Xmas weekend when I’ll have more time to relax and truly enjoy it.  I’m simply loving all the comments and discussion here, and can’t wait to finish this amazing documentary!

One question I wanted to throw out there: can anyone give any insight into Peter Sellers’ visit?  Was that scene as awkward and uncomfortable as I felt it to be, or did I misread the situation?  When Sellers arrived, I was wowed and was excited to hear some interaction and dialog.  Instead, what I saw was the boys seeming quite indifferent (weren’t they fans of his?) or even outright rude.  John made a crack about “meeting a celebrity by collecting pop caps” (something to that effect).  Peter seemed thrilled to meet them, but they had nothing to say to him and were sitting around doing nothing when he visited.  Were the Beatles so used to, and perhaps sick of, being around famous people that they could hardly be bothered when he arrives?  In fact, the more I think on it, John’s attitude was truly shitty and he came off as a complete asshole.  (Not a surprise, it’s part of the reason we all love John.)

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I have only watched Parts 1 and 2 so far, but it’s an excellent docuseries. 

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I guess the extended version release would have to be after a set period of time, under which the material is no longer under Disney’s exclusive rights, which varies but wouldn’t be more than a year. Then, Jackson and Apple will bide their time to wait to release it, likely as a Christmas 2022 release, which would be after the LIB Blu-ray comes out.

That’s what I’m betting on, anyways.

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The Daily Beatle reports that the Blu-ray release was due to be announced (I’m assuming) last Monday with a release date of 27 December 2021. It seems to have been held up though, possibly due to Omicron and the varying degrees of lockdowns that are happening.

This is a rough version of the ad for it:

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Doesn’t show any extras in the details, so the 6 hours of expected bonus footage appears to be being held back for an extended version sometime in 2022, but does mention it includes 4 Collectors Cards.

If any indication though, it does seem a no frills version of the series on Blu-ray (and, one would assume, DVD) is on its way sooner rather than later.

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I wouldn’t be at all amused if they made available a home release for £40/50 only for an extended edition to be released at the end of the year. That would be a really crappy thing to do. 

People have paid Disney to stream it, Apple will know people will pay for the initial Blu-Ray as there are collectors and whoever. To ask for a third payment due to additional footage included months later would be shitty.

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That’s what I half expected to happen, @meanmistermustard, a no frills release of the straight series followed by an extended version which would also include ‘making of’ featurettes, the trailers, along with some of the promotional interviews given and maybe something on the London cinema preview.

Assuming that the print ad’s real-ish, and Roger’s sources are rarely wrong, the complete lack of any such extras (and the timing matching the series) definitely has me thinking there a more expansive version to follow.

Hell, if not, it’ll be the only official Beatles DVD/Blu-ray release not to include any bonus content.

Given the ad’s a US version, and prices it at $44.99, I’d expect a UK price of probably £34.99 (the exchange rate puts $44.99 at £33.57 at the moment) as I’d expect them to cost roughly the same.

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That’s what I half expected to happen, @meanmistermustard, a no frills release of the straight series followed by an extended version which would also include ‘making of’ featurettes, the trailers, along with some of the promotional interviews given and maybe something on the London cinema preview.

Assuming that the print ad’s real-ish, and Roger’s sources are rarely wrong, the complete lack of any such extras (and the timing matching the series) definitely has me thinking there a more expansive version to follow.

Hell, if not, it’ll be the only official Beatles DVD/Blu-ray release not to include any bonus content.

Given the ad’s a US version, and prices it at $44.99, I’d expect a UK price of probably £34.99 (the exchange rate puts $44.99 at £33.57 at the moment) as I’d expect them to cost roughly the same.

  

It makes sense and seems to be what’s happening, I just think it’s a crap way to do it.

Presumably they want a release out quickly whilst there is good press and it’s making headlines. 

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I can’t speak to the veracity of this, but among the comments on The Daily Beatle article I linked to above, JOSE+RENATO says:

I have a source that guarantees that there will be two editions. A normal one with 3 bluray and a special one with 6-8 bluray. Released in April or May.

As I say, have no idea how good this guy’s sources are, but thought it was worth throwing into the pot.

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