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The Beatles: All These Years by Mark Lewisohn
22 March 2016
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Reklo87 said

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Can anyone share a break down of the differences between the standard and the deluxe version 

Check out post #160:

https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..8/#p110994

Check out post 619 of this thread.

There are others but those are some good ones to look at for starters.

So is it a fair assessment to say that the deluxe edition doesn’t have any additional info or chapters but rather just some extra detail and hyperbole in every sentence?

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Not exactly a fair assessment, no.

First, there is no hyperbole. I don’t think Lewisohn is prone to that as he seems fairly straight forward.

If you look at the chapter listings for each version, you will notice considerable differences in the chapters themselves as well as a slightly different structure. I had both versions until I gave the abbreviated one to my brother. I seem to recall Brian and George Martin receiving their own introductory chapters in the smaller (seems weird to call it that) version, where the larger version rolls them seamlessly into the story as history unfolded.

The point that I and Linde made upthread about more detail (” green shirt with a V-neck collar” vs just “a shirt”) were just rudimentary examples of how much more was told. More extensive interviews of those who were around, more articles uncovered by research and things like that add more background to those details and are more prevalent in the larger version.

If you are interested in the story behind the band, the smaller version will more than fill the bill. If you want to know more about the who, what, why, when and where behind the story, I highly recommend the larger.

You really can’t go wrong regardless, IMO. Hope that helps.

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I hope this is on topic:

There’s an interesting point in Wikipedia that I came across about the song “I’m losing you” where John explains to Sean after writing the song that he was always indecisive because of having to choose between his parents. I doubt whether it’s really true because why would John explain it to Sean who was only about five years old then (interestingly the same age John was when the scene was supposed to have happened)?

However, it really got me wondering how this “rumour” actually started because it isn’t really explained in Tune In. I think it was Alf who narrated this to Hunter Davies? John seems to have believed this, but it’s really sad that much of his behaviour was attributed to a false memory (and people can believe false memories with absolute conviction). What is more sad is that his memory of this incident which didn’t seem to have happened was the basis of much confusion, angst and sadness in his life, and I don’t think he really got over it.

 

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I’d have to consult my copy of Tune In, but here is my initial thought.

I seem to recall that while the scene may not have played out as dramatically as some documentaries or stories would leave you to believe, a confrontation between Alf and Julia concerning the “custody” of John did take place in someone’s house. If memory serves, however, I do not believe John was in the room while the discussions took place. To me, this would mean that he really did not have a choice in the matter nor did he need to make it on a wind swept beach with tears in his eyes.   

How the rumor was started is anyone’s guess. 

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As far as I can remember, I think Alf Lennon made the story up in the Hunter Davies biography.

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“Tick Tock Tick Tock”….  I keep looking at my shelf wondering what it will look like seeing all of the books together one day.  My Vol. 1 will have friends!

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Oh Mr. Lewisohn, I’m not getting any younger and neither are you. ahdn_ringo_09

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Oh Mr. Lewisohn, I’m not getting any younger and neither are you. ahdn_ringo_09

I believe there’s a revised paperback issue coming out soon . . maybe he’s working on that 

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What if he hasn’t done much to Vol. 2 yet and just was working on the revised edition?

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Don.W said

The Hippie Chick said
Oh Mr. Lewisohn, I’m not getting any younger and neither are you. ahdn_ringo_09

I believe there’s a revised paperback issue coming out soon . . maybe he’s working on that 

Can I get a PDF file with details of where the changes are so I can go back and alter the book myself with a crayon. Neither do I want to read the whole book again nor do I want to pay another £60 for it updated.

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If I bought a copy on iTunes it should update for me, but then I wouldn’t easily know the changes.

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meanmistermustard said

Don.W said

The Hippie Chick said
Oh Mr. Lewisohn, I’m not getting any younger and neither are you. ahdn_ringo_09

I believe there’s a revised paperback issue coming out soon . . maybe he’s working on that 

Can I get a PDF file with details of where the changes are so I can go back and alter the book myself with a crayon. Neither do I want to read the whole book again nor do I want to pay another £60 for it updated.

I believe it’s $18 US, it’s the paperback version 

 

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Some interviews from Mark Lewisohn popped up in my suggested viewing

 

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Did Lewisohn get to interview Tony Barrow before he left us?

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@Bullion 

Thanks for the post! Not a lot of info… but I did enjoy the interview.

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Ahhh Girl said
Did Lewisohn get to interview Tony Barrow before he left us?  

Wasn’t he interviewed for volume 1?

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Wasn’t he interviewed for volume 1?  

I haven’t made it through v. 1 yet. a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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He did say he will start writing vol. 2 and 3 in the first video. So… we are still a long way off from holding them in person and reading them. I am not too upset about the timeline for the book releases, but I do appreciate that he is searching for lots of solid info for these books.

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How does a book deal work? Does he get paid when he sings the contact or when the books get released or after they sell? 

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