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The Beatles: All These Years by Mark Lewisohn
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Joe
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13 November 2013 - 5.33pm

parlance said
BTW, Lewisohn should have credited you for your photo, Joe. Not cool.

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14 November 2013 - 2.58am

The extended version is now available in ibooks/itunes in the Australian store.  $45 each volume, plenty of  20% off itunes cards around at the moment so worked out to be $36 each.  Samples are available of the first two chapters, so I might do some comparisons with the single volume before purchasing.

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14 November 2013 - 10.13am

I still haven't had a dispatch email from Hive yet, Joe. Bet they've put me to the back of the cue because I used book tokens! Lol.

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14 November 2013 - 2.48pm

Looks like me and my copy of the UK Deluxe are now in the same country!

Philadelphia, PA, United States  11/14/2013  6:37 A.M.  Arrival Scan 
Castle Donnington, United Kingdom  11/14/2013  3:47 A.M.  Departure Scan 
Castle Donnington, United Kingdom  11/13/2013  11:39 P.M.  Export Scan 
 11/13/2013  8:42 P.M.  Arrival Scan 
Northampton, United Kingdom  11/13/2013  8:00 P.M.  Departure Scan 
 11/13/2013  6:33 P.M.  Origin Scan 
United Kingdom  11/13/2013  11:57 A.M.  Order Processed: Ready for UPS 

Looks like tomorrow is the day. It's gonna be a great weekend.

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14 November 2013 - 5.46pm

Father McCartney said
I still haven't had a dispatch email from Hive yet, Joe. Bet they've put me to the back of the cue because I used book tokens! Lol.

Same here. My order history says its due date is 2nd December. Why it will be so long is a mystery but i suppose it better having a rough date than nothing at all.

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14 November 2013 - 6.17pm

Joe said

parlance said
BTW, Lewisohn should have credited you for your photo, Joe. Not cool.

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Fair enough. Though I did just have to correct The Examiner, which credited the photo to Little Brown.

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14 November 2013 - 6.35pm

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Amazon.co.uk has dispatched my copy via DHL Global Mail. My expected delivery date is Dec. 3. Anticipation.

Mine has been dispatched as well. Initially the delivery estimate was November 20 to 22. Now it says this Friday?!?!

I hope that is true. Thanks for sharing the pics Joe, it looks awesome.

Nov. 20-22 was my original delivery estimate too. I wonder why mine has gotten pushed back? Oh, well. I'll enjoy it when it arrives.

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15 November 2013 - 12.31am

Here a some screen comparisons of the contents to both the standard edition (first two images) and the extended volume 1 (last three images for any one that is interested.  I have not purchased volume 2 as yet to compare.

These are only approximate pages so they probably won't match with the printed version as the pages numbers a relevant to the font size, but it gives you the same idea of how much extra is in the extended version compared to the standard.  These pages do not also contain the notes on each pages (ie the footnotes, not the back of the book notes) as these are contained on separate pages at the back of the file.  However of these footnotes there are about 440 individual footnotes in volume one of the extended version compared to about 190 in the standard. There are 62 pages of end notes in Volume one compared to 54 pages of end notes for the full standard edition. There are also 49 photos/pictures in the Standard edition compared to 55 in Volume one of the extended.

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The introductions and the prologue seem to contain the same information.

Breaking down to each year you can see which areas have the most additional information.

Up to 1945, 82 pages compared to 19

1945 - 1954 119 pages compared to 33

1954 - 1955 35 pages compared to 22

1956 63 pages compared to 25

1957 95 pages comapred to 54

1958 92 pages compared to 53

1959 78 pages compared to 43

1960 176 pages compared to 133

There is also the 'Swish of the Curtain' chapter 12 in the Standard version which is about Brian Epstein and George Martin, which is not in the extended version, but the information is spread out through the main text in the appropriate timeframes.

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15 November 2013 - 1.53am

Thanks for that Lokipei. Good to see the level of difference between the two.

One thing that strikes me is "The Pre-1971 British monetary system explained", never in my life would i expect to see that with its own heading in a Beatles book. Seeing the extended version contents makes me gulp and wonder what the heck i've got myself into - 59 pages on the period up to 1939, that's before John is even born! ahdn_paul_02 Is there a Tune In for Dummies edition coming out?

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15 November 2013 - 2.20am

Assuming your first reference is the UK standard edition, and not the US (the page numbering differs in the printed version as pages pre- The Prologue are roman numerals, with page 1 being the first page of The Prologue) and that all of 1960 is in Book One of the Extended, here is the total difference for 1961-2, based on Joe's description. In the UK Standard, 1961-2 run from page 473 to page 870, giving a length of 433 pages. Assuming there is no 1960 in Book Two of the Extended, then 1961-2 run from page 829 to page 1530, giving a length of 701 pages. Meaning that, between them, those two years see an addition of 268 pages.

Remember, any comments on content go in the spoiler thread.

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15 November 2013 - 2.21am

The Pre-1971 British monetary system explained is in both books, it just doesn't have a contents seperation in the Standard version.  It is slightly more detailed in the extended.  I have read the Pool of Life chapter so far in the extended and without going into spoilers it contains a lot of extra fasinating information on their families before they were born and doesn't feel like just add on.

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15 November 2013 - 2.30am

mja6758 said
Assuming your first reference is the UK standard edition, and not the US (the page numbering differs in the printed version as pages pre- The Prologue are roman numerals, with page 1 being the first page of The Prologue) and that all of 1960 is in Book One of the Extended, here is the total difference for 1961-2, based on Joe's description. In the UK Standard, 1961-2 run from page 473 to page 870, giving a length of 433 pages. Assuming there is no 1960 in Book Two of the Extended, then 1961-2 run from page 829 to page 1530, giving a length of 701 pages. Meaning that, between them, those two years see an addition of 268 pages.

Remember, any comments on content go in the spoiler thread.

And, Lokipei, if you are who I think, like the new name! (If not, sorry for confusing you!)

I assume that I am reading the UK version, being in Australia we usually do, however these were both purchased from the Ibooks Apple store on an Ipad.  The pages numbers are approximate as these are dependent on the font that I have set, but both books will be relative to each other.  There may be slightly more or less pages in the paper versions, but I made them as approximate as I could, as the e-versions are formatted differently.

Extended volume 2 starts at the beggining of 1961 as I have the sample version as I am yet to purchase it yet.

And yes, I changed my name from meanmrmustid to Lokipei to avoid any confusion with meanmistermustard above!

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15 November 2013 - 2.32am

I just hope nothing important got cut when they were trimming it down for the Readers Digest edition that I have.

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15 November 2013 - 3.07am

So, following on from my earlier breakdown based on the printed versions, though on a wider frame here, and assuming that the Extended printed keeps with of numbering the pre-Prologue pages as roman numerals that the UK Standard uses, the Standard text from Prologue to the end of 1960 runs for 406 pages, while the Extended is 747 pages, giving a difference of 341 pages. This would mean, assuming that the formatting of the Extended is close to the UK Standard, that the extended adds 609 pages of text, with the rest being taken up with extended notes.

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15 November 2013 - 4.40pm

Lokipei said 

 There is also the 'Swish of the Curtain' chapter 12 in the Standard version which is about Brian Epstein and George Martin, which is not in the extended version, but the information is spread out through the main text in the appropriate timeframes.

 That is good to know. I've already read that section in the standard edition. It will make more sense to have it "spread out through the main text in the appropriate timeframes".

Thanks for all the info you provided above.

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15 November 2013 - 7.04pm

Same as you, mmm, my due date is the 2nd Dec. Why is it going to take so long? Here was I imagining myself tucking into that next week... :(

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15 November 2013 - 7.38pm

Finally received my Extended Ed. today!

Gotta finish the BBC Archives first, though.

Oh, impatience...

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15 November 2013 - 8.25pm

trcanberra said, "I just hope nothing important got cut when they were trimming it down for the Readers Digest edition that I have."

Love it.

I wonder whether this trilogy will end being a classic, i.e. often quoted, rarely read...

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trcanberra said
I just hope nothing important got cut when they were trimming it down for the Readers Digest edition that I have.

I am only about 60 pages into the extended version after reading about 370 pages of the standard. A small sample on the extended I grant you. But I do not believe anything is being "cut". It's more a case of the extended version being more descriptive or detailed. 

Think of it like this. A weather report in a newspaper will tell you it is going to rain, but the meteorologist on the television weather report will tell you WHY it will rain.

It's not like the standard version says their drummer in Hamburg was just plain Pete and the extended says Pete Best.

I hope that helps.

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''It's not like the standard version says their drummer in Hamburg was just plain Pete and the extended says Pete Best.''

Haha I'm very glad that's not the reason I'm coughing up considerably more for this version :)

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