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The Beatles: All These Years by Mark Lewisohn
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My crude guestimation based on current pricing is that a U.S. deluxe edition would probably be about 30 U. S. dollars less than the UK edition.

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I would just point out that February is only a hypothetical date. There is no definite word that the US publisher has taken up their option yet. The only thing we know for sure is that Lewisohn has said, "It will not be this year".

As to reading spoilers, parlance, I like your earlier suggestion of having a spoilers thread, and trying to keep things out of the rest of the forum as much as possible, to allow people to read at their own speed, and those who have to wait to catch up. I think people here would do their best to work within that.

Whatever the crap around the publishing details, we all know this is as important a book about The Beatles as has ever been published, just because of who it is written by, and his record. Let's do our best to not flood the forum with new threads to discuss the many new things that come to light, and try and keep the discussion to one place.

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12 September 2013
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You can add spoilers to messages. I'd never tried it before, but here's how you do it:

Write some text. Highlight the text. Then, in the text formatting toolbar you should see a smiley wearing sunglasses (it will be greyed out until you highlight something). Click that, preview if you want to check it's worked properly, then Submit Reply.

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I don't like being in the dark, so I'd rather order the UK edition.  We could wait until February just to find out it's not being released, and by then copies of the deluxe edition could be scarce and even more expensive.

I ordered both. Originally, I ordered 2 copies of the US version - 1 for me and 1 for my brother for a Christmas present.

Since then, I cancelled 1 of the US versions and ordered the UK version for myself.

Soooo...when the first one arrives next month, I will carefully read the US version (making sure not to spill coffee on it) and then wrap it up (glad my brother is not in this Forum!!).

Then, I will read the UK version I ordered for myself. I'm still hoping for further price reduction as the UK version, with shipping to the US, is not cheap. I live in Miane, which is the Eastern-most state (where America's day begins!). I can't imagine what shipping would have been to somewhwere further inland. Yikes. This is really putting a hole in my Beatles Budget.

Either way, with each passing day, I get giddier and giddier awaiting the arrival of the first one. Can't...flippin'...wait.paul-mccartney

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12 September 2013
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It's all very confusing!

Anyone made a simple little guide for it? 

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12 September 2013
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Amazon.co.uk have standard shipping charges for North America, so if you order from there you should only pay an extra £7 (I don't know if you'd pay extra customs/taxes). The main killer for US people seems to be the cost of the book itself, but that's the same for us Brits too.

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mja6758 said

As to reading spoilers, parlance, I like your earlier suggestion of having a spoilers thread, and trying to keep things out of the rest of the forum as much as possible, to allow people to read at their own speed, and those who have to wait to catch up. I think people here would do their best to work within that.

Thanks!

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You can add spoilers to messages. I'd never tried it before, but here's how you do it:

Write some text. Highlight the text. Then, in the text formatting toolbar you should see a smiley wearing sunglasses (it will be greyed out until you highlight something). Click that, preview if you want to check it's worked properly, then Submit Reply.

 

I've done that, but I've found that when people reply, they'll sometimes respond referring to spoilers and forget to use the tags. I thought a separate thread might be safer.

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Right now, depending on the exchange rate by the time it comes out, with shipping the deluxe UK edition will cost $128 - about $100 more than the regular US edition. Ugh. Will definitely keep an eye out for a price decrease.

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Joe said

Amazon.co.uk have standard shipping charges for North America, so if you order from there you should only pay an extra £7 (I don't know if you'd pay extra customs/taxes). The main killer for US people seems to be the cost of the book itself, but that's the same for us Brits too.

No, we don't pay VAT or any taxes, just the shipping. And you're right, it's the price itself that's the killer, it comes to something like $140 with shipping! My guess is *if* a US version of the deluxe is released, it will cost less...I'd guess $115 or so. And Amazon ships free within the US for orders over $25.

 

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13 September 2013
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I've just read that Lewisohn's book has no reference index at the back, which is absolutely ridiculous for a tome of this size. I'm totally dissapointed about this if it's true, as I use the index continually when reading non-fiction, or when just dipping in and out. A poor show.

Apparently an index is included in the special edition. But why not both?

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Father McCartney said
I've just read that Lewisohn's book has no reference index at the back, which is absolutely ridiculous for a tome of this size. I'm totally dissapointed about this if it's true, as I use the index continually when reading non-fiction, or when just dipping in and out. A poor show.

Apparently an index is included in the special edition. But why not both?

 

WHAT?! Literally, I just yelled that at my desk. Well, that would rule out the regular edition if true. I get annoyed when bios don't have indices.

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13 September 2013
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Hang on, I think - I hope - I've spoken too soon.

It seems it's just the reference pages rather than index that will not be present. (but why not show references?) If so, apologies for your poor ticker, Parlance!

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"The main difference between the regular UK edition and the USA edition is said to be that the USA edition will have the references pages added, in the UK, these will only be printed in the deluxe edition."

I have a few non-fiction books without indices, and do find it impairs my enjoyment of them substantially. Hopefully, it looks like we're safe with this one.

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This just becomes more of a clusterfuck the closer we get to release day. It's farcical! :lol:

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Its ridiculous the pains purchasers have to go thru with this to get what is best for themselves.

I will get the standard abridged version either second hand, heavily reduced or cheap paperback; paying £74 is plenty already so a further £18 is not practical.

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meanmistermustard said
Its ridiculous the pains purchasers have to go thru with this to get what is best for themselves.

I will get the standard abridged version either second hand, heavily reduced or cheap paperback; paying £74 is plenty already so a further £18 is not practical.

How long do you think it will be before it starts appearing in charity shops/car boot sales? If I remember correctly 50 Shades was published in 2011 and didn't really surface until 2012 and I started seeing it round a lot last month, so roughly about a year?

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meanmistermustard said
Its ridiculous the pains purchasers have to go thru with this to get what is best for themselves.

I will get the standard abridged version either second hand, heavily reduced or cheap paperback; paying £74 is plenty already so a further £18 is not practical.

How long do you think it will be before it starts appearing in charity shops/car boot sales? If I remember correctly 50 Shades was published in 2011 and didn't really surface until 2012 and I started seeing it round a lot last month, so roughly about a year?

 

Second hand probably around a year, a shop like Fopp might put it out heavily reduced at some point as they did with Living In The Material World (on sale for £3) about 6 months after release. Obviously this is the Beatles and highly anticipated but they have sold reduced Beatles books before (one being the paperback Anthology which I think was £5).

By having the deluxe its not a big deal, will take an age to get thru that anyway, but its obviously different if weighing up what way to go now.

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LikeASir said

meanmistermustard said
Its ridiculous the pains purchasers have to go thru with this to get what is best for themselves.

I will get the standard abridged version either second hand, heavily reduced or cheap paperback; paying £74 is plenty already so a further £18 is not practical.

How long do you think it will be before it starts appearing in charity shops/car boot sales? If I remember correctly 50 Shades was published in 2011 and didn't really surface until 2012 and I started seeing it round a lot last month, so roughly about a year?

I've been trying to track down a 2nd hand hardcover of 'Anthology' and they are few and far between down here (only the paperback is currently available at retail).  So, at least here in Oz, it depends very much on what book and how much it cost originally.

 

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I saw a hardcover Anthology at half priced books a couple months ago for like twenty dollars. It was in really good condition, too, way better than the one I have. 

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Ive only ever seen 2 hardcover Anthology's second-hand since it was first released, never reduced or on sale - tho it must of been.

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