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Your opinion on heavy metal
4 September 2016
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I was wondering what you guys thought about metal music, I personally love it and Paranoid was the first album I ever bought when I was 8 years old, but I know that although there are a lot of Beatles fans that like heavy metal, like myself, there are also some that don’t, like my older brother. What do you think.

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Not a fan of it at all unless I am alone and playing drums to it on full blast. 

I’m not the guy to ask though, I usually like to keep my music mellow, and anything past Led Zeppelin on the rock spectrum is to aggressive for me. 

The Beatles did pioneer the genre with Helter Skelter , and I know a lot of metal fans are also huge Beatles fans. 

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I really like heavy metal, but I tend to gravitate more towards older stuff. Most of the heavy metal I listen to was made between the late Sixties and the late Eighties. 

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I love heavy metal. Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica, Led Zeppelin, Ozzy, Dio, Motley Crue, Slayer, I love the hell out of it. I remember my friend lending me his copy of Kill Em All and Haunting The Chapel when I was 17 and getting in trouble for listening to “Satan’s music” or when I saw Black Sabbath live on their Heaven And Hell tour or even when I saw Metallica live on their And Justice For All Tour and getting so intoxicated that by the time the concert was over, I was walking into walls and woke up on a park bench the next morning not knowing why I was there.

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sir walter raleigh said
Not a fan of it at all unless I am alone and playing drums to it on full blast. 

I’m not the guy to ask though, I usually like to keep my music mellow, and anything past Led Zeppelin on the rock spectrum is to aggressive for me. 

The Beatles did pioneer the genre with Helter Skelter , and I know a lot of metal fans are also huge Beatles fans.   

You at least like bands like AC/DC and Queen that are similar to heavy metal, but not quite.

Maybe you should try posting more.

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Not interested; the little I’ve heard i’ve highly disliked.

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I like some but it’s usually the older bands.  Sabbath, Deep Purple (and Blackmore’s Rainbow), Metallica, Savatage (later Trans Siberian Orchestra), AC/DC. And yes, KISS back in the earlier days. My brother and I were into that together.

But I tell you I had a thing… a THING… for “hair metal” in the 80s. You know, the guys with all the makeup, a whole can of Aqua Net in their hair. I mean, I went through a phase. I don’t know if you count them as real metal or just hard rock, though the genres overlap a lot. Motley Crue, Poison, Guns ‘N Roses, Warrant, Cinderella, and oh, GOD, Vixen. The whole bunch of ’em.  *blushes*

I know, I’m turning in my metalhead card as we speak. a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

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HMBeatlesfan said

You at least like bands like AC/DC and Queen that are similar to heavy metal, but not quite.  

Queen more than AC/DC, but I’m not a huge fan of either.

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I’ve never listened to heavy metal so I really don’t have an opinion on it. I’ve just always assumed that I wouldn’t like it. 

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The Hippie Chick said
I like some but it’s usually the older bands.  Sabbath, Deep Purple (and Blackmore’s Rainbow), Metallica, Savatage (later Trans Siberian Orchestra), AC/DC. And yes, KISS back in the earlier days. My brother and I were into that together.

But I tell you I had a thing… a THING… for “hair metal” in the 80s. You know, the guys with all the makeup, a whole can of Aqua Net in their hair. I mean, I went through a phase. I don’t know if you count them as real metal or just hard rock, though the genres overlap a lot. Motley Crue, Poison, Guns ‘N Roses, Warrant, Cinderella, and oh, GOD, Vixen. The whole bunch of ’em.  *blushes*

I know, I’m turning in my metalhead card as we speak. a-hard-days-night-ringo-6  

I agree with you there. Any music released after the 90’s is one of 4 things:

1. Stupid pointless pop/rap songs about their girlfriends (a step back from what The Beatles popularized (songs that have nothing to do with love) if you ask me)

2. Music that is so low sounding, it sounds like Cookie Monster’s throat is bleeding

3. Music that sounds like it was made on a Commodore 64 by a 4 year old sticking crayons and hot wheels into floppy drive

4. Rapping about smoking weed

Sadly, my oldest son was born in 1985, so although the music he liked when he first got into music wasn’t that bad (Nirvana, Rage Against The Machine, Green Day, Metallica, Alice In Chains , Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters, etc) but nowadays, the stuff he listens to that is new is typically either garage rock revival (ok but not as good as the garage rock/proto punk of the 60’s or the punk rock of the 70’s) or modern metal, which is also #2, although he does listen to some of the stuff from his childhood and even some stuff from my childhood, such as AC/DC, Queen, and The Beatles.

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Little Piggy Dragonguy said
I’ve never listened to heavy metal so I really don’t have an opinion on it. I’ve just always assumed that I wouldn’t like it.   

That’s not a good way to try something new

4 September 2016
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I thought I’d show some examples of what heavy metal is:

4 September 2016
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I like metal.

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^^^^^ I’ve never really thought of Led Zep as “heavy metal”, though (and especially not a song like Ramble On, that’s most definitely in a less heavy spectrum). They were more hard rock, I think, although songs like Achilles Last Stand, Walter’s Walk, and Wearing and Tearing get pretty close to the borderline. Just my humble opinion, however. 

Anyways, I’ve heard some heavy metal that I didn’t mind, although the rest just didn’t suit my tastes. I can pretty much agree with sir walter that anything much “heavier” than Zeppelin and related works is a little too much for me. Overall, I don’t think heavy metal is bad, just not really my thing. At least, that’s my take of it.

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To me, it’s really simple: if it has a melody, I will probably like it. No melody=not music. Cacophonous dissonance=really not music.

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To me, it’s really simple: if it has a melody, I will probably like it. No melody=not music. Cacophonous dissonance=really not music.  

Cacophonous dissonance with a good melody buried underneath it can also be very good.

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Expert Textpert said

Cacophonous dissonance with a good melody buried underneath it can also be very good.  

In proper context it can sound very good. If it is clear that the songwriter has control over the music, dissonance can be used to great effect.

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It seems to me that the line gets blurred from time to time; which bands are rock and which are metal.  It happens when bands categorized in one genre cross over into another.  Like when a hard rock band records a track that is clearly “heavy.” There’s a huge discussion to be had on what constitutes “hard rock” and what is “heavy metal.”

I see some categorize Led Zeppelin as heavy metal and others say they’re rock or hard rock.  Okay.  That’s cool.  Queen? I wouldn’t consider them being heavy metal.  Black Sabbath were among the original progenitors of heavy metal, but there’s so much swing in their stuff, it’s almost ludicrous.  And it’s what makes them so freakin’ great.  The same band that gave us Into The Void also gave us Fairies Wear Boots (a flat-out jam, if there ever was one).

Metal has staying power.  If you consider all the +/- 70-year olds out there still playing, metal is certainly holding fast and it’s influence on new stuff is telling.  It’s hard to find bands who run in the same vein as Zeppelin, but Sabbath clones are all over the planet.

At any rate I’m a huge fan of both, although there are distinctly “heavy metal” bands that I can’t listen to; the djent subgenre, for example, along with grindcore, doom metal, etc., but that’s just me.

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C.R.A. said
The same band that gave us Into The Void also gave us Fairies Wear Boots (a flat-out jam, if there ever was one).

IMO  

I haven’t heard much Black Sabbath, but I just checked out Fairies Wear Boots after reading your post. Cool song. I shall listen to more and see if I like it.

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