Please consider registering
Guest
sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_Feed sp_TopicIcon
Who do you think should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that isn't
24 August 2017
12.14am
Avatar
Necko
Earth
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 7933
Member Since:
10 November 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I think that people tend to make too much out of it (not responding to anyone in this thread, to be clear). 

A couple years ago, Nine Inch Nails was eligible for induction. Because of the rabid fanbase, NIN was far and away taking the lead in the online voting. NIN didn't get inducted. Ninnies, of course, took it personally and threw a shit fit. They kept whining because Green Day got in and not what they liked. 

It's supposed to be fun, not something meant to be taken seriously as grim death.

The following people thank Necko for this post:

SgtPeppersBulldog

I'm Necko.  I'm like Ringo except I wear necklaces.

I'm also ewe2 on weekends.

Most likely to post things that make you go hmm... 2015, 2016, 2017. 

24 August 2017
9.21am
Avatar
Von Bontee
A Hole In The Road
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 4547
Member Since:
14 December 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Are Kraftwerk in the Hall? They surely deserve to be.

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
-- Paul McCartney

                 Winner-Funniest-Post-and-Most-Creative-Contribution-2017-1.pngfunniest-post-badge2018.png

24 August 2017
9.40am
Avatar
sir walter raleigh
In our yellow (IN OUR YELLOW) submarine (SUBMARINE AHA!)
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 5306
Member Since:
26 January 2017
sp_UserOnlineSmall Online

Dire Straits and Warren Zevon need to be in above all others imo. 

The following people thank sir walter raleigh for this post:

Necko, SgtPeppersBulldog

"The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles!"

-Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues

"We could ride and surf together while our love would grow"

-Brian Wilson, Surfer Girl

24 August 2017
12.54pm
Avatar
Necko
Earth
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 7933
Member Since:
10 November 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Von Bontee said
Are Kraftwerk in the Hall? They surely deserve to be.  

I don't know. I know they were nominated a couple times. I kind of don't think so. 

I'm Necko.  I'm like Ringo except I wear necklaces.

I'm also ewe2 on weekends.

Most likely to post things that make you go hmm... 2015, 2016, 2017. 

24 August 2017
3.36pm
Avatar
Martha
Candlestick Park
Members
Forum Posts: 1277
Member Since:
27 February 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Von Bontee said
Are Kraftwerk in the Hall? They surely deserve to be.  

No, they aren't yet, they were nominated this year but didn't make it if I understood it correctly and I completely agree, they would've deserved it. 

Others: Joy Division, Tina Turner, Nick Drake

I wonder when Radiohead will be inducted as they'll be eligible from next year on.

Not once does the diversity seem forced -- the genius of the record is how the vaudevillian "When I'm 64" seems like a logical extension of "Within You Without You" and how it provides a gateway to the chiming guitars of "Lovely Rita. - Stephen T. Erlewine on Sgt Pepper's

24 August 2017
4.18pm
Avatar
Ron Nasty
Apple rooftop
Members

Reviewers
Forum Posts: 11272
Member Since:
17 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I'm going to be a bit controversial here and say Ringo.

"What the feck you on about?" I hear you cry, "He's already in the Hall of Fame!"

No, he's not. John, Paul and George are; Ringo isn't.

To enter the Hall of Fame, a list is drawn up by a committee of between 9 and 12 artists; that list is then sent out to 600 "rock experts" who vote on it.

That is the process by which John, Paul and George were elected to the Hall of Fame. Ringo was given honorary membership without going through that process.

After much badgering by Paul, Ringo was given the Award for Musical Excellence, selected by committee; replacing the Sidemen award, it "honors those musicians, producers and others who have spent their careers out of the spotlight working with major artists on various parts of their recording and live careers."

I argued it was an insult at the time, and still think the same. Ringo should be put on the ballot and, at least, given the chance to join the voted on Performers section, which is the section being discussed here.

I, for one, think that if he were put on the ballot, he would secure his place among the Performers; which is where he belongs as one of the most important and influential drummers of all time, and as someone who still attracts interest and an audience.

The following people thank Ron Nasty for this post:

The Hole Got Fixed, SgtPeppersBulldog, Martha, Flyingbrians, Von Bontee

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

To @ Ron Nasty it's @ mja6758
The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966

25 August 2017
5.07am
Avatar
Flyingbrians
Robin Hood Country
Paris Olympia
Members
Forum Posts: 363
Member Since:
19 January 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Martha said

No, they aren't yet, they were nominated this year but didn't make it if I understood it correctly and I completely agree, they would've deserved it. 

Others: Joy Division, Tina Turner, Nick Drake

I wonder when Radiohead will be inducted as they'll be eligible from next year on.  

I feel that Radiohead would have reservations even if they were selected. I don't think they have much of a fondness for the 'rock establishment'.

Joy Division would be cool, unfortunately I don't think Nick Drake would get selected. He's still quite a cult artist. 

Looking at the list of inductees, I think the following should be included: 

Blue Oyster Cult, Jethro Tull, Smashing Pumpkins, Talking Heads...

"And life flows on within you and without you" - George Harrison

25 August 2017
7.30am
Avatar
Martha
Candlestick Park
Members
Forum Posts: 1277
Member Since:
27 February 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Flyingbrians said

I feel that Radiohead would have reservations even if they were selected. I don't think they have much of a fondness for the 'rock establishment'.

That's true,the other day I read an interview with Jonny Greenwood I think it was and he told the interviewer he would rather sit at home in front of the fire or play a gig than to go to a possible induction because as Brits they couldn't understand something as American as that. Well, I think that says everything about their attitude towards the Hall of Fame. ahdn_paul_01

The following people thank Martha for this post:

Flyingbrians

Not once does the diversity seem forced -- the genius of the record is how the vaudevillian "When I'm 64" seems like a logical extension of "Within You Without You" and how it provides a gateway to the chiming guitars of "Lovely Rita. - Stephen T. Erlewine on Sgt Pepper's

25 August 2017
10.04am
Avatar
Von Bontee
A Hole In The Road
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 4547
Member Since:
14 December 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Talking Heads is a good selection - I would've assumed they were in already. BOC - I love em to pieces but dunno how "important" or influential they were...at least compared to metal counterparts Black Sabbath  (who definitely deserved their induction, and I say this despite personally preferring the Cult).

I suspect Radiohead will make it someday...they've possibly been the most "prestigious" rock(?) band of the last coupla decades. If that means anything. 

Tull or the Punkins...I don't think they really have much of a chance.

The following people thank Von Bontee for this post:

Flyingbrians

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
-- Paul McCartney

                 Winner-Funniest-Post-and-Most-Creative-Contribution-2017-1.pngfunniest-post-badge2018.png

25 August 2017
10.16am
Avatar
Flyingbrians
Robin Hood Country
Paris Olympia
Members
Forum Posts: 363
Member Since:
19 January 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Von Bontee said
Talking Heads is a good selection - I would've assumed they were in already. BOC - I love em to pieces but dunno how "important" or influential they were...at least compared to metal counterparts Black Sabbath  (who definitely deserved their induction, and I say this despite personally preferring the Cult).

I suspect Radiohead will make it someday...they've possibly been the most "prestigious" rock(?) band of the last coupla decades. If that means anything. 

Tull or the Punkins...I don't think they really have much of a chance.  

Saying that though, looking over the list i'd say there are already quite a few questionable inductees. Green Day and Cheap Trick are just two examples...

I'd say Talking Heads, Jethro Tull & Smashing Pumpkins are more influencial then both of them personally.

The following people thank Flyingbrians for this post:

vonbontee

"And life flows on within you and without you" - George Harrison

25 August 2017
10.36am
Avatar
QuarryMan
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3684
Member Since:
26 January 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

The Smiths, but I also hope they aren't, because they are typically very anti music establishment and share my dislike of the hall of fame. 

¡No pasarán!

 

26 August 2017
8.50pm
Avatar
vonbontee
Inside an Apple Orchard in a Letterbox
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 4557
Member Since:
1 December 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Lotta Smiths fans here! Maybe they will be inducted, then they can just turn it down...

Green Day pisses me off because there are 316 similar pop-punk bands who came before 'em but didn't have 1% of their sales despite being way more original!

Tina Turner not in?! Weird

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions, Marvin Gaye. PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

               funniestpost-5.png

https://rateyourmusic.com/~Myo.....Von_Bontee

27 August 2017
10.32pm
Avatar
Elementary Penguin
Candlestick Park
Members
Forum Posts: 1005
Member Since:
14 March 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Record sales does play a huge part in making it the hall of fame but I think Green Day deserves to be there. I would say that maybe they have been inducted earlier then expected. 

I don't think Deep Purple are in there so I would say them and the Monkees who have been ignored many times because they aren't considered a real band but I still think they deserve a place. 

And in the end the lunch you take is equal to the lunch you bake.

28 August 2017
12.56am
Avatar
vonbontee
Inside an Apple Orchard in a Letterbox
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 4557
Member Since:
1 December 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

There's at least one (former?) HOF induction committee dude who flat out refuses to consider the Monkees. I'd be happy to see them make it! Deep Purple too, altho again Sabbath deserve that metal slot more. I think.

I do think that record sales play a part! The Eagles are possibly the world's most mediocre band (and possibly also the worst) yet they've sold a half billion units so obviously they're in the hall!

(I don't really dislike Green Day, I respect their work ethic and songwriting talent. But they were such immature dicks in a Rolling Stone profile back in '94 or so...and so I have the right to complain about them being chosen before Husker Du or The Buzzcocks, since those earlier guys kinda helped invent the Green Day sound, I suspect.heart)

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions, Marvin Gaye. PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

               funniestpost-5.png

https://rateyourmusic.com/~Myo.....Von_Bontee

28 August 2017
8.35pm
Avatar
Elementary Penguin
Candlestick Park
Members
Forum Posts: 1005
Member Since:
14 March 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I think it was Jann Wenner who has refused to let The Monkees in because they weren't a real band at first but there's a lot of manufactured artist in the hall so I don't see why The Monkees are such a big deal but you never know they might get in one day.

I'm not a big fan of The Eagles either but they are kind of the ultimate American rock band who have also sold a lot of records so it is no surprise that they are in the hall of fame. 

I feel like Deep Purple should be in the hall for Smoke on the Water alone because everyone learns that song on the guitar and plus Deep Purple helped create Heavy Metal along with Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin. 

Green Day were pretty obnoxious in the early days so I could imagine them saying something that would have pissed some people off but they seem to have grown up a bit and take aim at world leaders these days. I think they deserve a spot for Dookie and American Idiot alone. 

The following people thank Elementary Penguin for this post:

vonbontee

And in the end the lunch you take is equal to the lunch you bake.

29 August 2017
3.51pm
Avatar
SgtPeppersBulldog
Swinging London
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3099
Member Since:
1 January 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Another one which has occurred to me: Wings! If Eric Clapton can be in there three times (as a member of The Yardbirds, as a member of Cream and as a solo artist), then why can't Paul!? Unless they included Wings already under Paul's solo induction...

"Some kind of happiness is measured out in miles... " 

 2017: 

 
29 August 2017
4.30pm
Avatar
Shamrock Womlbs
Waiting for the van to come
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3287
Member Since:
24 March 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I think these two should be inducted asap:
Robert Moog
Orville Gibson

The following people thank Shamrock Womlbs for this post:

Necko, SgtPeppersBulldog

"I Need You by George Harrison"

29 August 2017
7.57pm
Avatar
vonbontee
Inside an Apple Orchard in a Letterbox
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 4557
Member Since:
1 December 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Wow, Bob Moog isn't in as a builder?! That's negligent.

Frankly I don't think Wings were good enough for the hall! Yardbirds and Cream were hugely influential and had many important band members pass through.

xxpost yeah, Wenner is probably the one,..I was thinking Dave Marsh at first, but now I think it was Kiss he was opposed to. Which I kinda agree with.

The following people thank vonbontee for this post:

SgtPeppersBulldog

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions, Marvin Gaye. PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

               funniestpost-5.png

https://rateyourmusic.com/~Myo.....Von_Bontee

30 August 2017
5.27pm
Avatar
Shamrock Womlbs
Waiting for the van to come
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3287
Member Since:
24 March 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Shamrock Womlbs said
I think these two should be inducted asap:
Robert Moog
Orville Gibson  

Plus Joe Meek

"I Need You by George Harrison"

30 August 2017
6.44pm
Avatar
vonbontee
Inside an Apple Orchard in a Letterbox
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 4557
Member Since:
1 December 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Ooh, definitely 

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions, Marvin Gaye. PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

               funniestpost-5.png

https://rateyourmusic.com/~Myo.....Von_Bontee

Forum Timezone: America/Chicago
Most Users Ever Online: 700
Currently Online: Marcelo, sigh butterfly, sir walter raleigh, Richard
Guest(s) 1
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
Starr Shine?: 16014
Ron Nasty: 11272
50yearslate: 8714
Necko: 7933
AppleScruffJunior: 7333
parlance: 7111
mr. Sun king coming together: 6403
Mr. Kite: 6147
trcanberra: 6064
sir walter raleigh: 5306
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 88
Members: 2657
Moderators: 6
Admins: 1
Forum Stats:
Groups: 3
Forums: 44
Topics: 4983
Posts: 356967
Newest Members:
Grautvornix, Troubadix, McLennon1963, hsoend, joe12
Moderators: Joe: 5199, Zig: 9812, meanmistermustard: 23637, Ahhh Girl: 19845, Beatlebug: 17555, The Hole Got Fixed: 8163
Administrators: Joe: 5199