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8 April 2020
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I'm on my phone and posting photos is kind of a pain but Lou Reed's Rock n Roll Animal and Lou Reed Live are two halves of a whole. They both come from the same concert in New York in late 1973. The former concentrates on Velvet Underground material and the later spotlights  solo material. Great stuff

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If you like the Millennium album try this by Sagittarius.

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Part of the work on this album was done by Curt Boettcher who was the mastermind of the Millennium album. 

He was also the producer of the Association who were very popular in 60's America.

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^another good one

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Dingle Lad said
I'm on my phone and posting photos is kind of a pain but Lou Reed's Rock n Roll Animal and Lou Reed Live are two halves of a whole. They both come from the same concert in New York in late 1973. The former concentrates on Velvet Underground material and the later spotlights  solo material. Great stuff

Ooh, I love Rock N Roll Animal but haven't heard the latter album, I'll be sure to give it a go at some point!

Since Frank Zappa's Hot Rats has been taken off Spotify, I'm listening to a 1987 remix of 'Son of Mr Green Genes' to compensate, which is pretty much the same thing except with worse production. 

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One of the most underrated albums ever is Ringo Starr 's Time Takes Time from 1992.  Even if you dislike Ringo's solo career you have to give this album a listen.  It's a very well written and produced album, and it sounds fresh every time you play it.

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Since Frank Zappa's Hot Rats has been taken off Spotify, I'm listening to a 1987 remix of 'Son of Mr Green Genes' to compensate, which is pretty much the same thing except with worse production. 

Hot Rats is on YouTube tho, I heard it a week ago. And I'm wondering if I should listen to the Hot Rats Session. It seems interesting but maybe the magic of Hot Rats is that it is kind of short. If anyone has listened to it tell me how good is it.

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Since Frank Zappa's Hot Rats has been taken off Spotify, I'm listening to a 1987 remix of 'Son of Mr Green Genes' to compensate, which is pretty much the same thing except with worse production. 

Hot Rats is on YouTube tho, I heard it a week ago. And I'm wondering if I should listen to the Hot Rats Session. It seems interesting but maybe the magic of Hot Rats is that it is kind of short. If anyone has listened to it tell me how good is it.

I wouldn't necessarily drop everything and rush to listen to it, it's just what you'd expect from any sessions compilation. I do have Hot Rats on vinyl, though unfortunately my record player and all my records are stuck in my university dorm room where I can't get to them.  

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It's been awhile since I've written on here so. . .

 

Green Day- Warning

Elvis Presley- For LP Fans Only

blink-182- Cheshire Cat

Prince- Chaos and Disorder

Johnny Burnette and The Rock N Roll Trio- Self-Titled

The Big Bopper- Chantilly Lace (The album)

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Like a Brontosaurus  She was packin' it in" -Prince

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Here's a chart of albums that are, in my opinion, highly underrated.

I just saw this chart and I had to reply because I love some of your picks! I think Velvet Underground and Talk Talk are the obvious ones and I would agree they are fantastic albums! (but I don't know if they are properly underrated, you know, most hipsters love those albums). I've also heard the Big Star album and it's great too.

Then, of course, Miles' On the Corner I absolutely love (as with any MD record) and Tracy Chapman's self-titled is such a great album!! I used to listen to it when I was very young, it was one of the few CDs we had in the family car, my mother loved it, and we used to listen to it on trips. One of the first albums I ever heard, frankly, so it holds a special place in my heart and I'm glad to know it's getting recognition.

The other one that caught my attention was Astrud Gilberto's self-titled. I love bossa nova and I wasn't expecting to see that album coming from you honestly. Such a great collection of tracks. I know the popular pick is the Getz/Gilberto album but my favourite is definitely Stone Flower.

In fact, if there's an underrated album is definitely, how could I forget:

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I listened to it because of the movie Brazil and I have to say it is the most pleasant musical surprise I ever listened to. The best bossa nova album out there, and believe me I've looked for equals but to me there aren't any. Clean production, stunning piano melodies and Aquarela do Brazil is just too good to this world. Soothing for any type of chilling location, and a truly relaxing and profound listen. A strong 9/10, some highlights include Choro, Brazil and Stone Flower.

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The one I would actually disagree with would be Aladdin Sane, and I'm sorry. It might sound weird coming from a big Bowie fan, which I am, and I think it is precisely because of that that I think he could do better. That album never really struck me as good as most people make it out to be. As a successor of Hunky Dory and Ziggy Stardust, it seems like the right fit for a perfect trilogy. But to me, Aladdin Sane is the musical equivalence of The Godfather III. Just not nearly good enough, and some tracks just sound like imitations of Bowie by artists half as talented as he was as a songwriter. There's not a single song on there that can stand up against any ZS song. The album lacks a clear progression and it just sounds unfocused. To me it feels like he just didn't have enough good material after going all-in on his previous two releases, which are masterpieces of the 1970s. And it took a couple of years before he regained his originality. I'd have to listen to it again but I've always found that album underwhelming. To me he picked up his album streak when he made Station to Station and Low (of course non of them underrated).

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I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you on the Bowie albums, @Jules . For me, Aladdin Sane is just as good - if not better - than both Ziggy and Hunky Dory. I would argue that 'Watch That Man' and 'The Jean Genie' go toe-to-toe with any of Bowie's glam rockers, but for me the real highlights are the title track, 'Time' and 'Lady Grinning Soul', which in my opinion are better than anything on the previous two albums. Mike Garson's piano work on those three tracks is just out of this world, and for me elevates them from great songs to life changing ones. Come to think of it, the piano solo on the title track, which blew my mind when I first heard it, was probably the thing that got me interested in free jazz and other avant-garde styles of music more than anything else. I absolutely adore 'Time' as well, the first half is Bowie at his most eccentric which to me is him at his best, and sounds like him stalking around a huge mansion like Dracula, while the second half is just pure emotion, with those crashing riffs and him crying "You should be home by now" over and over. 

On the subject of Ziggy and Hunky Dory, I'd argue that they're both rather flawed in their own right. On Ziggy, the run of tracks from 'It Ain't Easy' through to 'Hang On To Yourself' is much inferior to the rest of the tracks, which are all absolute classics, and on Hunky Dory, while I do enjoy side two, I don't think it really measures up given that side one has three of his most acclaimed songs, and two of my personal favourites, 'Kooks' and 'Quicksand'. Aladdin Sane has its flaws too, and two or three tracks I don't particularly care for, but it's much more balanced with the best tracks being spread throughout the listing. 

Anyways, all three albums are masterpieces in my opinion, even if they have their flaws. I really think you should give Aladdin Sane another go, particularly the tracks I mentioned. Glad you feel the same way about Tracy Chapman's debut - it was a big childhood record for me as well, and one that I've listened to regularly after rediscovering it a couple of years ago. I'll give Stone Flower a go, I love bossa nova and other similar styles but don't get around to listening to them all that often, so any similar recommendations would be very welcome!

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One of the things about Stone Flower I usually say, is that it's better to listen to it with the 10th track on. The original vinyl just had 9 tracks, and track 10 is an alternate take on the song Brazil added to the CD. The track is 7 minutes long originally and 5 minutes long as an alternate take, so it might seem over-long but I think it's wroth it, it is that good of a song. The reason I say this is because the track Sabiá, while it is good, doesn't feel like a proper closer to me, and I like to think of the 10th track as an excellent and fitting reprise. So take that in mind. Fantastic album to make yourself a coffee to.

And I'm not gonna keep arguing with you over Aladdin Sane or the other two albums, it would probably just make us absolute nemesis, because I disagree with most of what you said therea-hard-days-night-paul-11 Especially with Ziggy. Don't... don't say that stuff about Ziggy around me, it just hurts.

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All I'll say is give Aladdin Sane another try. Its genius may well reveal itself to you. 

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Ooh!!!! Bowie discussion!

I don't think Ziggy or Hunky Dory are underrated (if anything Hunky Dory is overrated-- don't kill me pls) but I love Ziggy so so much, it's probably my 2nd or 3rd favroite Bowie album.

As for Aladdin Sane, I could see how it might be considered underrated. I, too, once thought it overrated, but after several more listens I changed my mind. There are some really really excellent tracks on there.

That said... two very underrated Bowie albums are Heathen and Reality. Reality is of course my favorite, and every single song on Heathen knocks it out of the park (apology for baseball metaphor). Those two albums are the ones in need of more love!

Edit: Also, I love all of Ziggy but Quarryman has a point about It Ain't Easy through Hang On To Yourself. (Although I really really love Hang On To Yourself). They're not bad in any way, just not quite on the same level as the rest of the brilliance on that album. (Also, don't tell Walry I said this, Lady Stardust is in that run...)

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Underrated Bowie albums: Diamond Dogs and Lodger

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Edit: Also, I love all of Ziggy but Quarryman has a point about It Ain't Easy through Hang On To Yourself. (Although I really really love Hang On To Yourself). They're not bad in any way, just not quite on the same level as the rest of the brilliance on that album. (Also, don't tell Walry I said this, Lady Stardust is in that run...)

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QuarryMan said
All I'll say is give Aladdin Sane another try. Its genius may well reveal itself to you. 

No, but seriously... I'm exaggerating, I don't think it's that bad. But the genius hasn't revealed itself to me yet. I listened to it all the way through today when I went for groceries on my phone just to see if I would go back on my word, before your first answer, and it's still as I remembered.

I don't know, it seems so different to the way you casually compare it to The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust, that album just hits different to me, in a way that Aladdin Sane can't probably never will be able to, even if I end up liking it. ZS is so important in my life, I don't know why, but I seriously think every track in there is perfect. It really confuses me to hear people dismissing any of the 11 tight tracks it has. Maybe I'm overrating it, but it is seriously impossible for me to conceive myself changing a thing out of that album. Few albums I think of them that way. It is very personal to me, and Aladdin Sane just feels so impersonal and out of nothing in comparison. My love for Ziggy is weirdly unconditional and maybe it has messed up my listening experience when it comes to other Bowie albums.

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Ziggy's my favourite Bowie, too.

But "Alladin Sane" has "Panic in Detroit", and that's the man's finest moment in my personal ranking. 

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I’m not normally an active Bowie discussant, but Aladdin Sane is my favorite of his. The piano work is really a spectacle of its own, and Bowie’s surreal songwriting fits all of the playing perfectly. Or should I say the playing fits his songwriting? I don’t know. It is not quite Psychedelic, almost psychotic. I love it. 

Hard to see Hunky Dory being underrated. I love the album but its up there with Ziggy and Heroes as his most critically acclaimed. 

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apologies for the double post, but I wanted to list some underrated Jazz Albums

Grant Green - Live At Club Mozambique

Freddie Hubbard - Backlash

McCoy Tyner - Nights Of Ballads and Blues

Up with Donald Byrd

E.S.P - Miles doesn’t have many overlooked albums, and he deserves not to. but the collabs with Wayne Shorter rule on this one. 

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I like Aladdin Sane more than Ziggy Stardust.

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