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22 March 2019
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TheWalrusWasBrian said
it's even greater if you've read 1984. aH.  

I cannot stress this enough. I read the book because of DD and The Resistance by Muse is also based on it, and they were the PERFECT soundtrack. 11/10 would recommend 110% paul-mccartney-thumb_gifpaul-mccartney-thumb_gif (also I really like 1984 a-hard-days-night-john-6)

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Your next logical step would be to read* Orwell's "Animal Farm" with musical accompaniment by Pink Floyd! (that one album about pigs and sheep and dogs, whatever is it named)

*if you haven't read it already

Just to transition effortlessly back to topic: Underrated Pink Floyd album = Ummagumma.

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Von Bontee said
Your next logical step would be to read* Orwell's "Animal Farm" with musical accompaniment by Pink Floyd! (that one album about pigs and sheep and dogs, whatever is it named) ((animals))

*if you haven't read it already

Just to return effortlessly to topic: Underrated Pink Floyd album = Ummagumma.

  

yes yes yes. i plan to read it as soon as i can get my hands on it.

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Von Bontee said
Your next logical step would be to read* Orwell's "Animal Farm" with musical accompaniment by Pink Floyd! (that one album about pigs and sheep and dogs, whatever is it named)
 

Animals, and yes, I fully plan to.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8i love how our posts say the same thing. XDD

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Are we great minds or just pathetically unoriginal? ahdn_george_01

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(It's really good and short enough to be read in a single sitting if you stay up late! And of course we have great minds. Beatals fans R smrt! )

OK,  I've thought about it a bit and have come up with a few candidate: I like them all a lot, but they've rarely been highly regarded by their own fanbase. So by that particular metric, underrated. Ummagumma is like that, and so are...

The Cars - Panorama (possibly overlooked, certainly by CLASSIC RAWK radio, because it had no big hits, unlike its two predecessors)

Funkadelic - America Eats Its Young (more polished / produced & less bad-trippy than their first three, plus it's a messy double album with some unfocused filler; so naturally that's gonna generate some negativity. Unless you fetishize double vinyl like I do.)

Aerosmith - Live Bootleg (Dunno if I'd've regarded this double-live tour document (official and not at all a bootleg) so highly if it hadn't been my very first Aerosmith album, and I never will. As it is, these are some great GREAT songs, in versions that are largely definitive to my ears. And the 70's ended, the band died and was reborn or rebooted, with some of its members courting death themselves. And then they got clean, changed labels, ditched their future JohnandYoko producer for a former JonBonJovi producer; and by the 90s became one of the bestselling and worst bands in the world, irreparably damaging their legacy even worse than the Stones who inspired them so. Progress! blue-meanie)

Alice Cooper - Pretties For You/Easy Action (Their initial pair of albums contained nothing I've ever heard on radio - not counting the time in 1988 when my Beatlebud and myself played "Return of the Spiders" on our weekly 1-5 a.m. college radio show. And the albums being OOP for years probably didn't help their rep. Nonetheless, the rock music world was exploding with creativity in 1969-70, and Alice as a band is overlooked in general. First American band to display some Pink Floyd influence! you read it here first! and Bob Ezrin even proved the link by re-applying some of his AC rock-theatrical production ideas onto "The Wall"!)

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I wouldn't be quite so harsh on latter day Aerosmith, @vonbontee . While those cheese-fests they were putting out like 'Crazy' and 'Crying' are pretty insufferable, I think the reunion was worth it even if just for 'Living on the Edge' and 'Janie's Got A Gun', both of which are pretty awesome songs. 

I haven't heard that Cars record, even though I did like their first album when I gave it a go, so I'll have to try it.

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I wouldn't be quite so harsh on latter day Aerosmith,

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I haven't heard that Cars record, even though I did like their first album when I gave it a go, so I'll have to try it.

  

Well, I've spent nearly 10 years being unreasonably harsh on latter-day EVERYBODY here, so it's too late for that schtik to end! apple01I do love "Janey" and other isolated tracks, especially that overlooked "Done With Mirrors" LP. And some hits that deserve their overexposure. But for the most part, they lost the funk, and then lost me. And then Crazy, Don't Wanna Miss A Thing, etc. urgh go away! If they have any truly classic latter album cuts I haven't heard, I hope to accidentally hear them sometime, I'll smile in appreciation, or maybe nod in glee or dance! But I'm not gonna seek it out on my own, at least not immediately. (Harsh!)

Qman, I suspect you'd like Panorama better! (sorry if I'm rushing to judgement) - it's a little more electronic and detached and less late-70s AORish. (More Velvetsy?) I kinda love the two equally - it's like listening to the decade change. 

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Yellow Submarine , people often label this as the worst Beatles album because it's only half a Beatles album and it recycles tracks from previous releases. However, when viewed on it's own, it's a pretty good album with All Together Now being the only bad track on the album and i love how Only A Northern Song , Hey Bulldog , and It's All Too Much got an official release while The Beatles were still together, it'd really suck to have to wait over 25 years to hear these tracks.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Yellow Submarine used to be in my top 5 purely for the inclusion of Hey Bulldog

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Hey Bulldog and It's All Too Much are in my top 5 songs, probably, but they're really the only reason I'd need YS. (Well, maybe Pepperland as well.)

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It's All Too Much is amazing too, probably in my 30s or 40s. As for Hey Bulldog , well, we all know how I feel about Hey Bulldog a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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I can totally get behind YS as underrated, those two tracks are a pair of my favourite Beatles "deepest cuts". And the cool GM score isn't just underrated - it's rarely even rated!

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I can totally get behind YS as underrated, those two tracks are a pair of my favourite Beatles "deepest cuts". And the cool GM score isn't just underrated - it's rarely even rated!

  

*guiltily vows to get around to listening to the orchestral tracks all the way through*

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I've only listened to the score on CD a few times myself! Screening my DVD with the isolated music track is the way I roll. (LOTSA tunage that never made it to vinyl! Poor GM a victim of sad commercial realities, can't follow a double album with a 2-record complete soundtrack of songs/score. 🙁  )

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Iron Butterfly, In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida  

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The Knack, Get The Knack

(Released a generation apart, both of these sold like 6 million copies, are now known universally and eternally for one popcultural joke song, and the critical establishment hated them. The establishment was wrong and the masses were right! That Knack album in particular....I've loved it nonstop for 39 years and I'll defend it forever. It was my third or fourth album purchase (on 8-track tape! with the songs miraculously sequenced properly) and I'll never forget walking through a wintry Northern Ontario snow day to the shop. $4.99. Underrated! And yeah, Beatlesque  (occasionally, sometimes vaguely)

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Von Bontee said

I wouldn't be quite so harsh on latter day Aerosmith,

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I haven't heard that Cars record, even though I did like their first album when I gave it a go, so I'll have to try it.

  

Well, I've spent nearly 10 years being unreasonably harsh on latter-day EVERYBODY here, so it's too late for that schtik to end! apple01I do love "Janey" and other isolated tracks, especially that overlooked "Done With Mirrors" LP. And some hits that deserve their overexposure. But for the most part, they lost the funk, and then lost me. And then Crazy, Don't Wanna Miss A Thing, etc. urgh go away! If they have any truly classic latter album cuts I haven't heard, I hope to accidentally hear them sometime, I'll smile in appreciation, or maybe nod in glee or dance! But I'm not gonna seek it out on my own, at least not immediately. (Harsh!)

Qman, I suspect you'd like Panorama better! (sorry if I'm rushing to judgement) - it's a little more electronic and detached and less late-70s AORish. (More Velvetsy?) I kinda love the two equally - it's like listening to the decade change. 

  

I'll admit Don't Wanna Miss A Thing is a huge guilty pleasure for me, but then I guess its chorus not being the same word repeated over and over makes it more palatable than Crazy anyway. Another latter day track worth hearing if you haven't already is Jaded, which I listen to pretty often. I definitely agree about them losing the funk though, that's what makes their earlier records so appealing to me too. 

That album sounds pretty cool! I think I heard it described as their magnum opus in a biography I read, so I'll definitely have to check it out soon. 

On topic, I'm not sure about Yellow Submarine being underrated. It's not that it's bad at all (it has 3 of my favourite Beatles songs in a row), it's that the competition's all having just so many more good Beatles songs mean that it's impossible to rate it too highly in comparison. I don't typically include YS or MMT in my rankings, but if I did I'd probably still rank it below my other least favourite, BFS, since that one has quite a few songs I do really like, even if I don't like them quite as much as It's All Too Much or Hey Bulldog

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Albums Not Enough People Have Heard (Of) #47 – An Occasional Series

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The Misunderstood: Before the Dream Faded (Cherry Red Records, 1982)

If you're searching for the great lost psychedelic group of the 1960s, or the American version of the Yardbirds, this record miraculously fits the bill. A band of California expatriates who achieved brief recognition in the London underground before they were forced to disband due to immigration and draft problems, this was an awesomely powerful line-up which intriguingly mixed raga-rock, blues-rock, and plain old rave-ups around the amplified distortion wizardry of lead guitarist (on steel!) Glenn Ross Campbell (later in UK's Juicy Lucy). Recorded in late 1966, the six songs on side one show the group at the peak of their power, with striking instrumental innovations and interplay which anticipate Jimi Hendrix and the Pink Floyd months before either had recorded. Campbell is one of the best unheralded rock guitarists; his playing suggests the missing link between the Yardbirds and Hendrix, with amazing amplified Middle Eastern whines, wails, and explosions. Despite some recklessly revelatory lyrics, the group's nerve-wrackingly daring time changes, Indian-like modes and unconventional song structures along with their otherworldly interpretations (Who Do You Love, I Unseen), create a killer thrust which is on par with the best efforts of the era. Side two consists of demos made before the group moved to London (some without Campbell). Although not as noteworthy as side one, it's still well worth hearing, including takes from their early garage band days (a weird cross between the Yardbirds and Beau Brummels), tentative early forays into blues-rock, and a revolutionary raga-rock treatment of the Yardbirds' I'm Not Talking. Although the Misunderstood released only a couple singles in their lifetime (1965-1966), this album (most of it previously unreleased) is still mindblowing after over 15 [Nasty edit: 52] years, and really unlike anything you've ever heard before. Excellent liner notes and photos, too.

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I used to go to local [San Bernadino] gigs and one day the Mystics and the North Side Moss had a gig playing the opening of a new shopping centre in Riverside. Well the Mystics did their set but just before the North Side Moss were due to go on, there was this band that nobody had ever heard of who had also been booked so I was planning to go and have a wander round the shopping centre while they were playing... but as I was about off, I saw this group taking the stage and starting to tune up and they looked very weird and freaky so I decided to hang around and to see if they were any good. They called themselves, it transpired, The Misunderstood... well it was like one of your St Paul on the road to Damascus experiences, it was stunning. They cut both the North Side Moss and the Mystics to pieces, they really did! Glenn [Ross] Campbell looked incredibly thin and ill, with exceptionally long hair for those days and he was hunched over his steel guitar, playing the most unbelievable stuff I'd ever heard... and Steve Whiting was doing things like playing his bass with a bottleneck: they were quite fantastic.

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At the Marquee's last Spontaneous Underground, the showcase band was an American group, the Misunderstood. Highly innovative, the Misunderstood soldered guitar jacks to automobile light bulbs and plugged them into extension outputs behind amplifiers, creating a lightshow of rippling feedback and harmonics. A jam titled The Trip (to Innerspace) lasted thirty minutes, with Glenn Campbell's electrified lap-steel guitar ringing over the crowd – a direct influence on Interstellar Overdrive. Three guitars feeding back on tremolo left the stage flashing with oscillating light patterns that stunned the audience, among them the Move and Pink Floyd.

Rick Brown of the Misunderstood says, "When we played the Marquee, Syd and company were mightily impressed and [were] said to have copied parts of our show, leaving the stage with guitars against amps on autopilot feedback."

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Side 1: Colour of Their Sound [recorded London 1966]

(1) Children of the Sun; (2) My Mind; (3) Who Do You Love; (4) I Unseen; (5) Find a Hidden Door; (6) I Can Take You to the Sun

Side 2: Blue Day in Riverside [recorded Riverside, California 1965]

(1) I'm Not Talking; (2) Who's Been Talking; (3) I Need Your Love; (4) You Don't Have to Go; (5) I Cried My Eyes Out; (6) Like I Do; (7) Crying Over Love

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Sounds fascinating, RN. Thanks for sharing that, I'll add it to my backlog of must-listens. 

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Anyone else ever listened to The Beau Brummels "Triangle"

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