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Wrong Response To Being Called A Ginger:

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Our dear friend @The Hole Got Fixed is actually a ginger! It’s good to have representation on the forum.

  

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God do you even have eyespaul-mccartney

 

No offence to gingers out there… but my hair is brown

Right Response To Being Called A Ginger: 

“Golly gee! What a wonderful compliment, but oops I’m actually just an average joe with b o r i n g brown hair– but boy do I wish I was a ginger!!! Such beautiful flaming red hair– so rare, so exquisite, but only in my dreams alas ahdn_george_05

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ahdn_paul_06 I wish you’d been around when @Mademoiselle Kitty >^..^< was active. She actually used to run like an international meet-up for redheads or something like that. a-hard-days-night-george-9

I think red hair is “super fecking dope,” or some such pimply teenage hyperbole heart

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Yes, I thoroughly agree red hair is super coola-hard-days-night-john-6a-hard-days-night-john-6a-hard-days-night-john-6

However, I do not wish to infect your awesome club with my brown hair, and must make it very clear that my hair does not, although it would be nice to be, fit in your club.

 

Sorry if you read that post the wrong way @lovelyritametermaid – I was blue-meanieblue-meanieblue-meanieing ASJ’s post for being factually incorrect.apple01

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The word in Irish for ‘ginger’ also means ‘rust’ and ‘copper’- now you know.

 

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The Hole Got Fixed said

AppleScruffJunior said

Our dear friend @The Hole Got Fixed is actually a ginger! It’s good to have representation on the forum.

I

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God do you even have eyespaul-mccartney

 

No offence to gingers out there… but my hair is brown

  

We already voted on this and you are in the minority. You could keep saying your hair is brown, Holey, but that won’t make you less of a ginger. 

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Yesterday I learned that my lowkey crush on Julie Andrews hasn’t waned a bit since I was eleven. ahdn_paul_01a-hard-days-night-paul-10

IT’S FINE I’M FINE IT’S JUST THE VENUSIAN CHARM GETTING IN MY EYES IS ALL. a-hard-days-night-ringo-15


  

I think most of the 1960s world agreed with you @Beatlebug. At the time, I leaned toward Shirley Jones in the movie musical crush department. The first time I heard the Beatles Till There Was You (from the Music Man) I experienced all sorts of feels.   

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My #1 movie musical crush = Catherine Zeta-Jones as Velma Kelly in Chicago 

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I think most of the 1960s world agreed with you @Beatlebug. At the time, I leaned toward Shirley Jones in the movie musical crush department. The first time I heard the Beatles Till There Was You (from the Music Man) I experienced all sorts of feels.     

Shirley Jones is a lovely woman but, as seen above, Julie Andrews isn’t just pretty, she has a certain charm that I can’t ughghghhahhhhhhssiiiigggghhhh a-hard-days-night-paul-7a-hard-days-night-paul-7a-hard-days-night-paul-7

I swear to god I am this close to being bisexual asfffff ahdn_paul_01

excuse me ahdn_george_06

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My #1 movie musical crush = Catherine Zeta-Jones as Velma Kelly in Chicago 

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*googles* ah, I see, she’s very smexy indeed.

I’m personally not super into smexy as much as confidence, charisma, and the ability to wear clothes amazingly. Good hair is also fairly necessary. Before you call me shallow, I’m speaking purely about aesthetic appreciation. mccartney-shrug_01_gif

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No contest Jennifer Lopez is the most beautiful woman who has ever lived. I could watch Selena four times in a row just to watch her in that movie. 

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Why is this now the “actress crushes” thread?ahdn_george_01

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Well it kind of fits because if people read those posts they’ll learn something

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Beatlebug said 

lovelyritametermaid said

My #1 movie musical crush = Catherine Zeta-Jones as Velma Kelly in Chicago 

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*googles* ah, I see, she’s very smexy indeed.

I’m personally not super into smexy as much as confidence, charisma, and the ability to wear clothes amazingly. Good hair is also fairly necessary. Before you call me shallow, I’m speaking purely about aesthetic appreciation. mccartney-shrug_01_gif

Excuse me but I would take a guess that someone has never seen Chicago before?!?! Velma Kelly has all the confidence and sexy charisma that any empowered woman can have! Seeing her dance and move in All That Jazz and Cell Block Tango and so on is stunning! She’s not just a femme fatale face– the girl has personality and looks!

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Excuse me but I would take a guess that someone has never seen Chicago before?!?! Velma Kelly has all the confidence and sexy charisma that any empowered woman can have! Seeing her dance and move in All That Jazz and Cell Block Tango and so on is stunning! She’s not just a femme fatale face– the girl has personality and looks!  

No, I haven’t seen Chicago and no, I wasn’t saying that she was *just* a pretty face, I don’t know her obviously! I spent all of fifteen seconds looking at image search results to see who you were talking about! What I meant was, overtly sexy/femme fatale is actually usually a turn-off for me (unless it’s David Bowie*). It’s complicated. a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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As Necko might say…hmmma-hard-days-night-paul-7

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Today I learned that in 1983, the FDA fully banned “men who have sex with men” (aka gay and bisexual members of the male sex, also called MSM) from donating blood in reaction to the HIV/AIDS epidemic. Their reasoning was that they were worried that the virus would get into the overall blood supply (which I guess was reasonable at the time). In 2015, 32 years later after the ban was put into place, the FDA lifted the lifetime ban. However, in order to donate blood, sexually active gay and bisexual men had to defer from any sexual activity for a year before their intended donation (which, err, I’m sorry but that sounds really wack to me– but more on that later). This 12-month-of-no-sex policy was finally amended very recently this year because of the current pandemic– the American Red Cross announced that it had a severe blood shortage since blood drives were canceled due to social distancing policy. Thus, on April 3, the FDA changed their policies on “men who have sex with men” donating blood, shortening the 12-month period of no sex requirement down to requiring gay/bi men to abstain from sexual activity for 3 months (which is better I guess in theory but like still very wack.) 

I think these policies are discriminatory and just outright illogical. There are so many gay/bi men out there who are healthy, ready, willing to donate blood in this time of crisis, but can’t because they may have been sexually active recently. Even if they are in a proven monogamous relationship and both of them have been tested negative for HIV/AIDS recently, they still are banned from donating blood unless they have deferred from sex.

HIV/AIDS prevention has made terrific strides since the 80’s. Testing has become way more accurate and thus the wait time is unnecessary because modern HIV testing can detect the virus within 9 days of infection. Also, the majority of gay men take preventative drugs like PrEP or Desovy, which is more than 99% effective in preventing HIV transmission! Aaaannnnddddd all blood transfusions test for HIV before they are used anyways! This policy put into place by the FDA just generates so much unnecessary stigma around gay/bi men! It’s just so mind-bogglingly unfair, not to mention dehumanizing! Not to mention– HIV/AIDS isn’t something that only gay/bi men can get– any member of the human race can get infected, including heterosexual people (though it is true that gay/bi men are more at risk, however as said before there are so many preventative measures taken today that such a fact is not entirely applicable). Scientists specializing in HIV/AIDS, as well as other health fields themselves, have repeatedly stated to the FDA that their ban is not based on any modern medicinal concern or reason and that it’s just a policy based on outdated medicine and stigma and stereotypes. I do believe that screening for HIV/AIDS risk is essential and important, however, I believe that MSM shouldn’t be targeted like they are today, especially to such an extent as to require them to abstain from sexual activity, even if such is monogamous. Advocates have also noted that straight men who are frequently sexually active with multiple partners are just as at risk as any sexually active gay man. 

And America isn’t the only country with such a discriminatory ban– the UK had a 12-year deferral window until 2017, where they changed it to a 3-month deferral window, whereas Northern Ireland still enforces a 12-year deferral window. 

In conclusion, I just really want my government to focus purely on scientific and medical reasoning, data, and evidence so that more people can receive blood in their time of need. There’s a significant blood shortage right now, and changing the ban in the States from 12-year deferral to a 3-month deferral for MSM doesn’t change that much at all in the grand scheme of things. Why prevent healthy and willing individuals from donated blood just based on the fact that they happen to be gay? Even if they are undoubtedly proven multiple times to have tested negative for any HIV/AIDS?  

(There’s a lot of other information on the topic, which can be found here)

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The beginnings of the AIDS/HIV pandemic are a great example of lessons that should have been learnt.

We were lucky back then – high mortality rate until we started to find treatments, but extremely low transmission rate because the vast majority of transmission was blood to blood. Despite what we might think now, we’re also quite lucky with the current pandemic. It is a good wake-up call about how we prepare for future pandemics. Imagine if we facing something that spread as easily as measles and had ebola’s mortality rate…

But, yes, we still see exactly the same mistakes, prejudices, and political games playing out.

Back then the cry of the bigots was to call it the “gay plague”, today it’s the “China virus” that’s the dog whistle for a certain kind of politics. The demonising is exactly the same, just a different target.

And you see the same with politicians then and now playing politics with the medical advice.

Back then, it AIDS/HIV offered the religious right a “free-pass” to gay bash and discriminate, which worked well for those countries that had conservative governments such as the US (Reagan) and the UK (Thatcher). Then twisting the medical opinion allowed for discrimination to be legislated for, as in who can give blood. As in many circumstances that involve religion and politics, it is no surprise Northern Ireland is still the most draconian.

Now it’s about whether the medical advice should be followed – President Trump attacks one of his main medical advisers for telling the House that States relaxing the lockdown too soon, before they meet the Federal advice, risk a second, possibly more deadly, wave while applauding the 34 States that have ignored his Government’s advice and asking more States to do the same, and just because a medical lockdown doesn’t suit his reelection campaign.

But there is also good – no, great – news in the story of AIDS/HIV. It was a new virus to humans, same as COVID-19 is now, it was very frightening with no medical treatments in sight, but with time they found them, and it’s a long time since it’s been a death sentence. It may take time, time that doesn’t fit political cycles, but just as those doctors then found a way for us to live with the virus, I believe they will now.

Just fuck the politicians and their games. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

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Ah yes, one of those reminders that while everyone likes to think there’s no more discrimination against LGBTQI+ people in most Western Countries, it still definitely exists.

You can tell a lot about someone, or an organisation (or a government) and their true feelings by how they react to stuff. You start having massive blood shortages, and what’s the Red Cross’ reaction? They reduce the length of abstinence required, to… 3 months. And they wonder why they have blood shortages! If they actually wanted us to donate they wouldn’t have any period of abstinence, but their 1950s views towards MSM gets in the way and they’d rather not have us donate at all but they can’t be seen these days to have an exorbitant time requirement so this is their solution.

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And how are they going to know if someone has had sex anyway? I mean, what happens in the bedroom stays in the bedroom, so I can’t see why anyone who wants to donate wouldn’t lie.

 

But the sheer fact that they need to lie is beyond belief.

 

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Today I learned that in 1983, the FDA fully banned “men who have sex with men” (aka gay and bisexual members of the male sex, also called MSM) from donating blood in reaction to the HIV/AIDS epidemic. Their reasoning was that they were worried that the virus would get into the overall blood supply (which I guess was reasonable at the time). In 2015, 32 years later after the ban was put into place, the FDA lifted the lifetime ban. However, in order to donate blood, sexually active gay and bisexual men had to defer from any sexual activity for a year before their intended donation (which, err, I’m sorry but that sounds really wack to me– but more on that later). This 12-month-of-no-sex policy was finally amended very recently this year because of the current pandemic– the American Red Cross announced that it had a severe blood shortage since blood drives were canceled due to social distancing policy. Thus, on April 3, the FDA changed their policies on “men who have sex with men” donating blood, shortening the 12-month period of no sex requirement down to requiring gay/bi men to abstain from sexual activity for 3 months (which is better I guess in theory but like still very wack.) 

I think these policies are discriminatory and just outright illogical. There are so many gay/bi men out there who are healthy, ready, willing to donate blood in this time of crisis, but can’t because they may have been sexually active recently. Even if they are in a proven monogamous relationship and both of them have been tested negative for HIV/AIDS recently, they still are banned from donating blood unless they have deferred from sex.

HIV/AIDS prevention has made terrific strides since the 80’s. Testing has become way more accurate and thus the wait time is unnecessary because modern HIV testing can detect the virus within 9 days of infection. Also, the majority of gay men take preventative drugs like PrEP or Desovy, which is more than 99% effective in preventing HIV transmission! Aaaannnnddddd all blood transfusions test for HIV before they are used anyways! This policy put into place by the FDA just generates so much unnecessary stigma around gay/bi men! It’s just so mind-bogglingly unfair, not to mention dehumanizing! Not to mention– HIV/AIDS isn’t something that only gay/bi men can get– any member of the human race can get infected, including heterosexual people (though it is true that gay/bi men are more at risk, however as said before there are so many preventative measures taken today that such a fact is not entirely applicable). Scientists specializing in HIV/AIDS, as well as other health fields themselves, have repeatedly stated to the FDA that their ban is not based on any modern medicinal concern or reason and that it’s just a policy based on outdated medicine and stigma and stereotypes. I do believe that screening for HIV/AIDS risk is essential and important, however, I believe that MSM shouldn’t be targeted like they are today, especially to such an extent as to require them to abstain from sexual activity, even if such is monogamous. Advocates have also noted that straight men who are frequently sexually active with multiple partners are just as at risk as any sexually active gay man. 

And America isn’t the only country with such a discriminatory ban– the UK had a 12-year deferral window until 2017, where they changed it to a 3-month deferral window, whereas Northern Ireland still enforces a 12-year deferral window. 

In conclusion, I just really want my government to focus purely on scientific and medical reasoning, data, and evidence so that more people can receive blood in their time of need. There’s a significant blood shortage right now, and changing the ban in the States from 12-year deferral to a 3-month deferral for MSM doesn’t change that much at all in the grand scheme of things. Why prevent healthy and willing individuals from donated blood just based on the fact that they happen to be gay? Even if they are undoubtedly proven multiple times to have tested negative for any HIV/AIDS?  

(There’s a lot of other information on the topic, which can be found here)

  

How absolutely fecking stupid that is. I genuinely don’t understand how some people could read this and think “yes, it makes sense, what a reasonable policy this is.” Fecking stupid. If they’re really worried about HIV/AIDS they should just test everyone before accepting blood (or maybe test the blood itself after it’s been given, if that’s possible? I don’t know what would be more realistic) and not be exclusively cruel to non-hetero men. How truly terrible.

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How absolutely fecking stupid that is. I genuinely don’t understand how some people could read this and think “yes, it makes sense, what a reasonable policy this is.” Fecking stupid. If they’re really worried about HIV/AIDS they should just test everyone before accepting blood (or maybe test the blood itself after it’s been given, if that’s possible? I don’t know what would be more realistic) and not be exclusively cruel to non-hetero men. How truly terrible.

It is possible to test afterwards and literally they already do test the blood afterwards all the time! I wrote somewhere in my ~rant~ about it– before they make a transfusion the blood is always tested for HIV/AIDS, which makes their current policies towards gay/bi men even more ridiculous! 

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