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Ron Nasty said

Zig said 
You could also look into their Irish lineage (all except Richy if memory serves).

I like this suggestion, it was going to be mine – sort of. The effect of the Irish diaspora on Irish culture and politics, with The Beatles, together and apart, showing examples of both. They offered a chance to forget the tensions on the island of Ireland, but at times questioned the role of the British on the island of Ireland. The Beatles are, in their way, an interesting way to jump into making points about the negative and positive effects that the Irish diaspora has had on the history of the island.

For a long time the Irish diaspora were seen as a strength in the struggle, but were increasingly seen as a hindrance by the increasing numbers who were rejecting violence because of their financing of it although they didn’t have to live with its effects (John, in the early ’70s, purportedly one of those financing the IRA).

The pivotal moment probably came the day afer Enniskillen, when during a performance of Sunday Bloody Sunday Bono – in front of an American audience – declared, “Let me tell you something, I’ve had enough of Irish-Americans who haven’t been back to their country in twenty or thirty years, come up to me and talk about the Resistance, the Revolution back home… And the glory of the Revolution , and the glory of dying for the Revolution .
“F**k the Revolution !
“They don’t talk about the glory of killing for the Revolution !
“What’s the glory in taking a man from his bed and gunning him down in front of his wife and his children? Where’s the glory in that?
“Where’s the glory in bombing a Remembrance Day parade of old-age pensioners, their medals taken out and polished-up for the day? Where’s the glory in that? To leave them dying, or crippled for life, or dead under the rubble of the Revolution that the majority of the people in my country don’t want!”

And most bravely, against all advice, insisted it was included in the Rattle and Hum film. Bono is often derided for his politics, but in those moments he made himself a target, and started undermining the diaspora’s support for the IRA – which would contribute to the path to the peace process.

And it all began with The Beatles, and some Irish kids falling in love with their music, and seeing how their own voices could be heard using that music…

There is an exciting part of the island’s history told there that begins with some Beatles performances in Ireland.

@AppleScruffJunior 

Oh wow, that would be a brilliant topic but alas the standard would be too high for my brother to do It would be quite difficult to condense it into a 1800 word (absolute maximum) essay and I would need 3 sources  I should have mentioned this but it’s for my brother’s Leaving Cert (he’s doing it next year along with me but we’re not twins just in case anyone is going to ask). It’s worth 20% of his overall mark in history so it’s ever so slightly important. 

Actually I might tackle that essay in my free time, it seems ridiculously interesting and I’m always eager to learn ridiculously interesting things

Oh and  to all who replied! I have some Ireland-Beatles connections thrown in already with George meeting his cousins before the first concert began (of course it would be George, who else? ). 

Anyhoo if the numpty tells my brother his essay is crap again (which he basically did), it’s either Ed Sullivan or (I was thinking) The Bed In For Peace. 

Life is hard 

Matt Busby said

Ahhh Girl said
@AppleScruffJunior 

Don’t allow your brother to just copy and paste the above post, no matter how tempting that prospect might be 

I wonder if “beatlesbible.com” counts as a reliable source for citations?

 

Well, Mark Lewisohn cites it as a source in Tune In… though that is the main site and not the forum.

meanmistermustard said

How utterly adorable is that dog? I could post a thousand of the dogs here.

His name is Boo, he’s a Pomeranian. He is so popular that he has his own fan-base    

BOW DOWN TO HIS FLUFFINESS!!!

IveJustSeenAFaceo said
I first saw him about 4 years ago, and my first thought was “There’s no way that’s a real dog”

If it makes you feel any better the Chinese did trick people into thinking this Tibetan Mastiff was a lion

meanmistermustard said
Boo is so cute but take that stupid coat thing off him and give him back his dignity!

Has he got his own album out yet?

@meanmistermustard He just put out a single with Keyboard Cat.