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26 February 2023
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I remember years ago flying with my acoustic guitar. When I got to the airport, they told me to take it out of the case and loosen the strings, because they might break from the air pressure.  I took it on a flight to Washington, D.C. to visit my father (from whom my mother divorced when I was 2), and one night during my stay at his apartment I sang him a couple of songs I had written — one of which he liked, titled “God ‘s With You” — even though he was a lifelong atheist.

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I remember years ago flying with my acoustic guitar. When I got to the airport, they told me to take it out of the case and loosen the strings, because they might break from the air pressure.  I took it on a flight to Washington, D.C. to visit my father (from whom my mother divorced when I was 2), and one night during my stay at his apartment I sang him a couple of songs I had written — one of which he liked, titled “God ‘s With You” — even though he was a lifelong atheist.

My father is in a rehab center somewhere in Middle Tennessee. He always calls my mother to get through to me and I finally got enough courage to tell him I dont want to have a relationship with him after how awful he has been to me and my mother. My parents had me when they were 15 and 16 and they divorced when I was 2 years old. I was in split custody until I was 5, but every time it was my dad’s week he would give me to his grandparents. That’s how I got close with my great grandparents. It really effected me when they both died almost four years ago now. The domestic abuse towards my mother wasn’t cool either. 

But, I am going with my aunt (not the farm aunt, one of the ones that lives in Tennessee). Last time I was with her I was in Gulf Shores at farm aunt’s house and Tennessee aunt had to take me back to Memphis because I had a dental surgery that I completely forgot about. She didn’t want me to take my guitar with me in her car because she “didn’t want to hear it or see it” and there was plenty of room in her car. I insisted though because I knew if I left my guitar in gulf shores I was never going to get it back. Keep in mind this is the guitar that I have the most emotional connection to: my Takamine. I don’t think Tennessee aunt is going to let me take my guitar to Virginia on a plane with her.

I am not going to be able to do anything music related for a week. and I might go insane. I wonder if I could sneak a flute in my carry on.

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Alright, I am reconsidering all of my life choices again…

Last night my mom talked to me and she made the point that I cannot even play a whole song in one sitting. I can, I just don’t do in front of her because every time I play guitar, flute, mandolin, piano, ukulele, or bass around her she tells me to stop. Now I am wondering why I even play music if people don’t see how much I love it. I honestly couldn’t imagine myself with any other career and if I don’t end up doing this with my life I will be worthless. Me and my family have spent thousands of dollars on instruments and then they want to bring me down and make me stop! This is the same with the rest of my family, they don’t want to hear me play and will make comments about how much I am invested into music. One I was making the point to my grandfather that I cannot bring instruments on a plane (i have a trip coming up) and he said “that’ll be good for  you, you’ll get a break from music.” 

Edit: wrote some pretty good lyrics about this situation. they’re a little angry though. 
 

I believe in you, @Neely. You have a drive and passion (and versatility!) that I can only dream of, and I think ultimately the fact that your family are not supportive may even provide you with even more motivation to achieve your dreams. One day, you’ll prove the naysayers wrong, and it’ll be all the more satisfying; until then, my advice is, you don’t need other people’s validation to continue playing music. Play music for yourself. Art is deeply personal and, often, the more selfish it is, the better it is. So if your music satisfies your soul, eventually, other people will begin to notice – maybe not your family, but people who can help you on your way, and people who will support your art.

And I know how it feels to go nuts from not having an instrument handy – that’s exactly why I learned guitar, so that I could have a portable instrument to play (I started on piano, probably when I was about your age), and even then, I have a big old dreadnought acoustic and it hasn’t always been able to make it into the car on family camping trips when we were stuffed to the gills with luggage. It’s painful to be chilling in the mountains surrounded by natural beauty and not be able to strum an acoustic tune or two. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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I remember many years ago, between my first Bachelor’s degree (in History) and my second (in Comparative Religions) when I had to find a job and didn’t know what I really wanted to do (Out of college, money spent
See no future, pay no rent, All the money’s gone, nowhere to go) I landed a job as a security guard and I was assigned an old building in downtown Seattle during swing shift (ending at midnight when another guard came to relieve me) — the entire small building was usually empty during my watch.  I soon realized I could get away with murder, so I would bring my guitar and sit in the stairwell practicing and singing, great acoustics in there.  I worked on my song “Firewater” in there, as I recall.  Then one weekend the Seattle Folk Festival occurred, so after I arrived at 4:00 pm, I waited an hour, then took the bus down to Seattle Center and spent a few hours watching various folk artists and bands play and got back before my shift was over.

It is a shame Neely’s family doesn’t appreciate his talents.  One can also experience that from friends and strangers while trying to create a musical life.  During that same period above I had a romantic view of wanting to become a singer/songwriter, and I tried to find every open mic venue I could to perform.  One of them was a cool cafe, very large, that had an open mic night once a week.  I played there a dozen times.  One time, I’m getting myself set up on the stool situated in the center of the tables where people are mostly talking, I’m draping my guitar strap over my shoulder and positioning the one microphone on a stand before me, and this guy who worked in the cafe shouted at me “Are you going to play your usual stuff that all sounds the same?”

Another time there, in the middle of my second song, the cafe crowd all around me was increasing their talking so much they began to drown me out, prompting the owner of the cafe to shout at everybody to quiet down and show some respect.  I appreciated that.

Another time, when I was able to participate in the Seattle Folk Festival itself, some of my friends came along and sat in the front row before the elevated stage where I was performing.  During my cover of Gordon Lightfoot’s “Brave Mountaineers” where there’s a whistling interlude, I lost my pucker — I pursed my lips, but nothing came out!  One of my friends howled in laughter.

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 It’s painful to be chilling in the mountains surrounded by natural beauty and not be able to strum an acoustic tune or two.  

Exactly. One time me, my mother, and step father all spent the whole day in Cades Cove around these beautiful homes from the 1800s and I was very inspired by that because I like a lot of early blues and such from that time period. I couldn’t do anything about it though, my guitars were in Memphis. I could’ve brought a ukulele, but my mom said no.

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Another time, when I was able to participate in the Seattle Folk Festival itself, some of my friends came along and sat in the front row before the elevated stage where I was performing.  During my cover of Gordon Lightfoot’s “Brave Mountaineers” where there’s a whistling interlude, I lost my pucker — I pursed my lips, but nothing came out!  One of my friends howled in laughter.

  

The last gig I had I was playing Tender by Blur. There is a gospel choir in said song, so I found a group of people and they agreed to do the song with me. I have photic sneeze reflex, so lights make me sneeze. I told the lighting guy “hey don’t put lights in my eyes!” 

So I finish a verse right… then the choir sings their part. They’re singing “come on come on come on get through it” and right before I come in the lighting guy puts the lights RIGHT IN MY FACE!!

I sneezed and I hit my face on the microphone. I walked away from the mic and got somebody else to sing the rest of the song. 

I did this in secret… I got the owner of a record store i know to take me there without my grandma knowing (i was living with her at the time) I told yall I used to be sketchy…

So that was my blunder… I shouldn’t have snuck out.

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Wow that’s embarrassing @Neely !

I had another experience singing a song in Italian (“Meglio Stasera”) in a cafe and in the middle of it I became hopelessly tongue-tied and my jaw spazzed out.  I couldn’t finish the song, but at least one woman at a nearby table said “It’s okay!” so I moved on to my next song.

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Exactly. One time me, my mother, and step father all spent the whole day in Cades Cove around these beautiful homes from the 1800s and I was very inspired by that because I like a lot of early blues and such from that time period. I couldn’t do anything about it though, my guitars were in Memphis. I could’ve brought a ukulele, but my mom said no.  

I’ve been there and it is a really cool place! Sad you couldn’t capitalize on the inspiration – I know how that feels a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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Erm… @Von Bontee, @vonbontee, @Sea Belt, just wondering if you noticed the spoiler underneath the Budokan/Bond scene? a-hard-days-night-paul-7

But that, of course, was an April Fool’s Day prank in 2010.

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Erm… @Von Bontee, @vonbontee, @Sea Belt, just wondering if you noticed the spoiler underneath the Budokan/Bond scene? a-hard-days-night-paul-7

But that, of course, was an April Fool’s Day prank in 2010.


  

Aha!

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Erm… @Von Bontee, @vonbontee, @Sea Belt, just wondering if you noticed the spoiler underneath the Budokan/Bond scene? a-hard-days-night-paul-7

  

Yep, overlooked completely. 

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Re: the current Baker’s Dozen — 13 Beatles or solo songs in which they sing (or speak or shout) one or more numbers — I bet no Beatles or solo songs have the word “eleven” in their lyrics.

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Re: the current Baker’s Dozen — 13 Beatles or solo songs in which they sing (or speak or shout) one or more numbers — I bet no Beatles or solo songs have the word “eleven” in their lyrics.
  

Does this count @Sea Belt?

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Sea Belt said

Re: the current Baker’s Dozen — 13 Beatles or solo songs in which they sing (or speak or shout) one or more numbers — I bet no Beatles or solo songs have the word “eleven” in their lyrics.

  

Does this count @Sea Belt?

  

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@Sea Belt, It’s Stevie Wonder counting, but it is in a Paul solo song. The video should start a 5:44.

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You all know I play 6 instruments… but I want to play all of the instruments! Which should I pick up next? Note I am only listing ones I can afford + ones I know a guy to get them off of. I finally have enough money to make another purchase. I really need to do drums at some point, but the budget dont fit that…

Sitar (because George)

Alto or Tenor Saxophone (because david bowie)

Bb Clarinet (because When I’m Sixty Four)

12 string acoustic guitar (everybody needs a good 12 string)

banjo (what can i say, I like folk)

piccolo (even though it’s just a flute an octave higher. I already play flute)

save up for drums 

or just buy a good piano, even though I already own a shitty one.

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@Neely — I vote for the deep clarinet.

 

@Ahhh Girl — I can’t make out what he’s singing!

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Girl, I like what you’re doing
When it’s one o’clock, when it’s two o’clock
When it’s three, when it’s our, when it’s five o’clock
When it’s seven o’clock, when it’s eight o’clock
When is nine and ten and eleven o’clock (Oh, come on, do it to me some more)
When it’s one o’clock, when it’s two o’clock
I like it anyway

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@Neely — I vote for the deep clarinet

I don’t know anywhere I could get one used!

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@Sea Belt, It’s Stevie Wonder counting, but it is in a Paul solo song. The video should start a 5:44.

  

Stevie was the master of the rapid-fire patter. The best example I’ve heard:

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