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The "Incredibly Impossible to Derail This Thread" thread
8 July 2022
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Mombontee and myself went to see it the three nights ago, myself with trepidation ’cause I hated what I’d seen of Luhrmann’s approach based on previous work (made it through first 20 minutes of “Moulin Rouge”, first 5 of “Great Gatsby”); and figured that mom would have even less patience for his over-the-top ness And indeed his hyperactive, hysterical style was fully on display as I’d figured it would be…but we found the subject matter compelling regardless, and basically were entertained with reservations. (Could’ve been a half hour shorter.) Lead actor (too lazy to look up name sorry) did an excellent job capturing E’s physicality.

Tom Hanks as Tom Parker, though…I dunno what he was trying for with that indescribable accent. The Colonel didn’t even talk like that IRL, youtube clips of interviews reveal what sounds like regular native-born American accent. 

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I guess the point of Parker’s accent was to get across to the audience without any hope of doubt that Parker was not American – can’t have the very bad man being thought of as an American. 

Agree about the film length, was definitely too long with what they did focus on yet even his weight gain was only briefly focused upon. It felt like they had to show Elvis as their idyllic King of Rock and Roll unless absolutely required (pill addiction and cheating on Priscilla). 

The story itself is fascinating tho and you cannot come away without feeling deeply sorry for how Elvis ended up.

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meanmistermustard said

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I saw the new Elvis movie today. Not completely historically accurate but it’s a pretty good movie. I’d give it 8/10. If you’re a fan of rock and roll I’d recommend it for obvious reasons.

  

Yeah, I saw it yesterday. Good film but skims over Elvis’s rubbish period (the Beatles appear for literally a second) and all the blame for anything ever bad is put on Colonel Parker. I did feel horrible for how Elvis ended up tho; an empty unhappy desperately lonely pill-popping overweight singing (at times very badly, not that it mattered) blob. 

It also hammered home just how fortunate the Beatles were for there being the four of them going thru it together instead of on their own. I know they talked about such things but still. 

  

I agree with all you’ve said here. I think it confirmed to me that Elvis’ main era of importance was his initial breakout, and when he joined the army it went downhill, trying to recapture something that had already gone. 

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I guess the point of Parker’s accent was to get across to the audience without any hope of doubt that Parker was not American – can’t have the very bad man being thought of as an American. 

It’s really counterintuitive as far as the narrative goes – like they treat it as a big deal when Elvis *discovers* the Colonel’s Dutch origins: Elvis has been partnering with this guy for 20 years and never noticed the bizarre accent and speech idioms??

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When I first got into Beatles fandom infinity seven months ago, I heard a lot of “Paul doesn’t give emotional performances” takes. At first I thought “oh I hadn’t noticed”, then I thought “well, I suppose he does have a sort of self-protectiveness where you know his voice will be ok”, but now I’ve got Golden Slumbers on a loop and I think “those are just bad takes”.

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So, who are you wanting to be the next British Prime Minister?

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So, who are you wanting to be the next British Prime Minister?

  

None of those who are standing would be a start. After that, none who are currently politicians.

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meanmistermustard said

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So, who are you wanting to be the next British Prime Minister?

None of those who are standing would be a start. After that, none who are currently politicians. 

It’s a great shame, but I’m afraid that seems to me to be a fair assessment of the current picture.

I think some (although not all) of the declared contenders are frankly intellectually unfit for any major governmental office of any kind; and that’s putting it very mildly.

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There’s been a story in the news the past few days about a lady named Helen Skelton.

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It’s also close to “Helen Keller”

LOOK OWWT!! HELEN KELLER!

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HELEN KELLER!

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YEAHH!! (screeeech)

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The app I use to learn the bass has added Here Comes The Sun and While My Guitar Gently Weeps . I’m thrilled! I don’t know if they added two George songs for copyright reasons, or because he gets the most streams, but I really hope they add more.

I had a moment where I realised I was playing along with an actual Paul bassline and it was weirdly moving.

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Ahhh Girl said
So, who are you wanting to be the next British Prime Minister?

  

Rowan Atkinson or John Cleese. 

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In July 2019, it was announced that Paul McCartney will be writing his first musical, a stage version of It’s a Wonderful Life:

His first stage musical is to be an adaptation of Frank Capra’s 1946 film It’s a Wonderful Life, and will open late in 2020. McCartney will write music and lyrics for the project. Lee Hall, author of Billy Elliot and screenwriter for the recent Elton John biopic Rocketman, is also writing lyrics, and the show’s book.

Last month (July 2022), there was an intriguing statement about new work by Peter Jackson:

“I’m talking to The Beatles about another project, something very, very different than ‘Get Back ‘,” said Jackson in a recent interview. “We’re seeing what the possibilities are, but it’s another project with them. It’s not really a documentary, and that’s all I can really say.”

Does anyone here have any further information / updates about either of these projects, please?

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Hey @Richard I remember he mentioned this in a RS interview for McCartney III Imagined release (dated 3/29/21).

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RS.com: Have you considered writing songs for other artists again, in the same way you did in the sixties for artists like Mary Hopkin, Billy J. Kramer, and Peter and Gordon?

Paul:The truth is that I have been doing that with two big projects that I have on: with the animation feature film High in the Clouds which is in production, and with the musical It’s A Wonderful Life. I’ve demoed songs for both those projects, but they won’t be sung by me. Maybe they’ll find a way to work in my version in the end credits, or something, but generally it’ll be the characters in the plays and films performing those songs. So, whoever plays George Bailey in It’s A Wonderful Life will sing the songs I’ve written for him.

So, that’s kind of my modern equivalent of writing for Billy J. Kramer or for Peter and Gordon… but it’s morphed into more than that. I’m writing a lot of songs for each project which are all going to be sung by lots of different people. I can’t wait to hear that!

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I thought maybe Jackson was attached to the High In The Clouds project, but according to the IMDb site he is not involved. They do indicate Lady Gaga is voicing one of the characters.

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@meaigs, we have competition. The important part starts at 32:46. Up to that point, she’s talking about being a redhead that wears dark mascara. This lady is a trip.

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British culture is so weird about red hair! She doesn’t seem to have noticed that Paul clearly doesn’t have a problem with red hair ahdn_john_08_gif

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