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The Guitar (and Other Musical Instruments) Thread
19 December 2017
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Speaking of project guitars, I went slightly mad and got a good deal on ebay for an Epiphone SG Junior (G-310). The first run of these from 1997-1998 had the P90 pickup like the original Gibsons, but the second run 2005-2006 substituted a 700T humbucker, and mine is a 2005 model. I'm going to replace the pickup and probably the wraparound bridge unless I'm really lucky with the intonation (which can't be altered with these bridges). These models are hard to get hold of, especially in Australia (mine is coming from Perth), and especially now that CITES makes any rosewood trickier to move across borders, so I've done well. I'll put up a picture when I get it and put some strings on it, the ebay pictures aren't terribly good but I was able to check the serial number. Going to put a humbucker-sized P90 in it, I like the GFS Mean 90s, they're cheap and sound great.

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Hello, guitar people! I have a 1966 fender duosonic two in red. I have been blessed by the gods. I've been playing for about a year, and play a lot of Beatles songs. 

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It must be weird having 2 SGs although the latter one will be great for Black Sabbath since Tony used an SG with p90s named monkey until 1975 when he started using custom built guitars. Also why would Gibson and Epiphone be stupid enough to use a non intonatable bridge on newer guitars that are reissues of vintage guitars, it'd be like Fender putting a 3 way switch on a 57 Stratocaster reissue and then only offering it in 2 color sunburst, only copy the good things about a guitar in their reissue, not the flaws, especially if it's not an exact replica like yours and is only loosely based on the original.

As for that 66 Duo Sonic, that is so cool that you have a guitar from Fender's prime era (1956-1971) even if it isn't a Strat.

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Dark Overlord said
It must be weird having 2 SGs although the latter one will be great for Black Sabbath since Tony used an SG with p90s named monkey until 1975 when he started using custom built guitars. Also why would Gibson and Epiphone be stupid enough to use a non intonatable bridge on newer guitars that are reissues of vintage guitars, it'd be like Fender putting a 3 way switch on a 57 Stratocaster reissue and then only offering it in 2 color sunburst, only copy the good things about a guitar in their reissue, not the flaws, especially if it's not an exact replica like yours and is only loosely based on the original.

They also did it on the Special P90 issue but on the USA Specials they used a Schaller 456 bridge which is a kind of combination stop tail and tune-o-matic and hard to find cheaply! I'm decided on getting all-black chrome hardware on the Junior and probably swapping out the speed knobs for some swanky hats, possibly some Strat ones, although GFS have some very pretty knurled Tele-style knobs with abalone caps.

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20 December 2017
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Have you ever been a bit tired and your brain hurts from thinking too much and you haven't played guitar in a couple of days and you just know you need that guitar-playing release; so you RUN TO THE BEDROOM, IN THE SUITCASE ON THE LEFT, YOU'LL FIND MY FAVOURITE AXE and you pick it up (feeling that familiar weight in your lap, that curve under your arm), plug it in, turn it up (a very essential step a-hard-days-night-john-6), slap the 'phones on, and just... SHRED. And for an hour or so, your world shrinks down to the centimeters of space between your fingers, the strings, and the fretboard, with a small peninsula somewhere in the vague far-eastern reaches of your picking hand. It's like the best parts of meditation combined with everything good about doing things you enjoy with your hands (and, if I'm being completely honest here, there's an almost sexual gratification to it too). And you just get a break from everything else, and it's the best damn feeling in the universe.

I did this last night. I remembered why I exist. It was good. heart

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Wow, what a truly beautiful and fitting description @Beatlebug!beatlemaniacs_02_gif This made me want to stand up and experience the magic again myself, right now. Unfortunately, it's already half past twelve... ahdn_paul_01

Anyway, I have a question to all you guitar heroes: Is it legitimate to mute a string with the pick? I've started to work on string muting and have noticed that I would sometimes mute a string with my pick rather than with the palm of my hands (in case, I can't use my fret hand for the muting process). This happens especially often when I'm doing a bend and mute my string afterwards before I release it.

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21 December 2017
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It's typically done with the palm but sometimes people do it differently. Since I'm left handed but use a right handed guitar I mute the strings by gently placing my finger on the fret above it, it's not as good as actual palm muting but considering I strum about where the 21st fret is it's the best I'll get.

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21 December 2017
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Martha said
Wow, what a truly beautiful and fitting description @Beatlebug!beatlemaniacs_02_gif This made me want to stand up and experience the magic again myself, right now. Unfortunately, it's already half past twelve... ahdn_paul_01

Haha, oops, I suspected it might have that effect a-hard-days-night-john-6

Anyway, I have a question to all you guitar heroes: Is it legitimate to mute a string with the pick? I've started to work on string muting and have noticed that I would sometimes mute a string with my pick rather than with the palm of my hands (in case, I can't use my fret hand for the muting process). This happens especially often when I'm doing a bend and mute my string afterwards before I release it.  

Hmmm... I've never really thought about it, but your description of doing a bend and pick-muting it afterward does sound extremely familiar, so I guess I do.

I think the moral here is you should do whatever works for you in the specific case.

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22 December 2017
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You can do whatever the hell you want on your guitar Martha, as long as you make the instrument sing. 

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26 December 2017
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Does anyone else get really annoyed when they buy a guitar songbook and the songs aren't in the original key? I don't care how many goddamn barre chords there are, I want the original key!paul-mccartney

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26 December 2017
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TheWalrusWasBrian said
Does anyone else get really annoyed when they buy a guitar songbook and the songs aren't in the original key? I don't care how many goddamn barre chords there are, I want the original key!paul-mccartney  

Yeah that annoys me too, but I can usually figure out the right key and then "do the math" of what the right chord sequence should be.  What annoys me more is when a songbook leaves out crucial chords.

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26 December 2017
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Yeah that annoys me too, but I can usually figure out the right key and then "do the math" of what the right chord sequence should be.  What annoys me more is when a songbook leaves out crucial chords.  

Ugh I hate that, too! I have a Beatles guitar book, and it left out the entire part where Paul sang in  A Day In The Life

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Although I've mastered ear training to the point where i can hear a song I've never heard of before and 10 seconds later start playing along i do hate how some songbooks don't care about using the right chords or making sure it's in the right tuning etc. One time i was looking at an old Beatles chordbook online and discovered that they totally messed up the chords on Nowhere Man , i can't find it but it mentioned a G+ (a G chord with a sharpened fifth) which in reality is not in the song.

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Yeah back in the old days they were really inaccurate, the lyrics were printed wrong for decades. The first couple of editions of Beatles Complete were just frustratingly bad and inaccurate.

My Epiphone Junior came today, I have to wait for new strings to come in the mail before I can really evaluate it, but first impressions: it's really heavy compared to the G400, feels twice as weighty. The neck is more of a D than C shape but still comfortable. Fortunately if the wraparound bridge doesn't work out, it's parallel to the neck and not an angle as many are (the only cure for intonation problems with those is moving the bridge), which means I can buy an intonatable wraparound replacement. The 700T humbucker sounds ok, the tone knob actually works! It's a little more neck-divy than the G400 but that's an issue with all SG's and you can fix it a bit with lighter tuners but a grippy strap is the simplest way around it (other than just keeping your elbow on the body).

I have been watching LOTS of youtube about pedals, I've just spent on two, a tc electronic echobrains which is a nice analog delay and a mooer envelope for some nice autowah action. I think I'll get a tc electronic rusty fuzz after that, I don't really need a muff fuzz right now.

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I reallyyy need to swap the strings on my electric but I always feel stupid going into the local shop and not knowing what type I'd like, so can anyone recommend me some good strings and what gauge I need for a Burny Les Paul replica.

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Ok, strings. With guitars there's two things that shape my needs: how bendy, and tone. The thinner the string, the easier to bend BUT the thicker the string the stronger the tone! Regular size is 10-46 (actually .010"-.046"), the standard light are 9-42. Lots of variation and a lot of rubbish about metal types and winding styles after that! So far I'm happy with Ernie Ball Regular Slinky, and D'addario Regular Light are good too. If you want the lighter, Ernie Ball Super Slinky 9-42 as used by Angus Young and many others. Most well-cut nuts can handle either gauge, going heavier will probably cause problems because they won't fit the slots properly. If you do have that issue with your current nut, get a tech to look at it (and set your guitar up as well).

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@QuarryMan In addition to what ewe2 said, here's a nice run over of string gauges

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As for the brand and that, I can't provide you with much guidance. I and a million others use Ernie Balls, merely because a million others use them, they seem to work pretty good, and their availability is unbeatable. I haven't done any real comparisons, but to me, a guitar string sounds like a guitar string... as long as it's fresh, I'm happy. paul-mccartney-thumb_gif

I've been using Power Slinkys on both my guitars (the Regulars sounded and felt too thin for my acoustic, and I wanted both guitars to feel as similar as possible), but I'm thinking of going with Regular Slinkys on my electric for premium Gilmourising. I don't know if you've ever tried a trademark David Gilmour three-whole-step-bend on .11s, but I don't recommend it. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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If you use 8s or 9s they will break quickly unless if you have a very delicate playing style so i would stay away from those, 10s or 11s is what i'd go for, i personally use Ernie Ball Regular Slinky 10 gauge strings, 12s should work as well but you might have to adjust your guitar in order to accommodate the heavy string gauge, anything above 12 isn't going to work unless if you plan on detuning your guitar or accepting that you will never be able to bend your strings. As far as what brand, i'd go for Ernie Ball solely because that's what i use.

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I've never used any other strings besides Ernie Ball, are they very different?

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Thanks all for your help. Since I'm utterly starved of any like minded musicians in my small farming town it's nice to be part of a community of guitarists.

I've decided to get these.

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