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The Guitar (and Other Musical Instruments) Thread
10 October 2017
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Thank you a lot, that’s a good argument with the music I want to play! 

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…. but whichever you choose I expect that guitar to get a lot of love.   

Absolutely! 

Paul has expressed it very nicely :

And when at last I find you

your song will fill the air!

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Agreed, I’m getting both because I see them as songwriting tools. I’ve learnt some interesting chords on the ukulele and I need to incorporate that into my guitar playing but also ukulele really helped me to figure out what was my best usable vocal range. I might need to capo a bit on acoustic. Epiphone SG is on track to come home by early next month, only $150 to go!

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23 October 2017
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I like this guys tutorials, he can be a bit rude with the language (but pretty funny), here’s a good one:

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24 October 2017
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@Martha depending on your budget and or how lucky you are you may be able to afford both an electric and an acoustic but if you can’t, I’d go with acoustic if you’re more into pop, country, and folk but electric if you’re more into rock. If you can’t decide remember that an electric can be played acoustically although it’s very quietly and you can install a pickup into your acoustic guitar. There’s also acoustic electrics but be warned there’s multiple different types.

First, there’s the types like the Gibson J-160E where it uses an electric guitar pickup which The Beatles regularly used mainly acoustically but also occasionally electrically such as on I Feel Fine and She Loves You , this will sound like an acoustic guitar when played acoustically and like an electric guitar when amplified. Next, there’s the types to avoid, these are the ones where they’ll use some sort of microphone hidden under the bridge and they will sound like an acoustic at all costs, even when amplified, this is an example.

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So if you see controls on the side like this one has, it will sound like an acoustic guitar even when you plug it in. Finally, there’s guitars like the Epiphone Casino where it’s designed to be played as an electric but there are sound holes so it’s technically an acoustic electric, these are also great for feedback.

If you’d like I could help you further.

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26 October 2017
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@Dark Overlord has asked me to post these pictures of his guitars to show everyone, as is pre-moderation doesn’t allow him to.

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I’d love to show everybody my guitars, my Squier Stratocaster with a Fender neck, my Epiphone acoustic, and my modified electric acoustic First Act which I only use for feedback because it doesn’t stay in tune.

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27 October 2017
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Awesome guitars @Dark Overlord! 

I’m envious of your blue strat a-hard-days-night-john-6

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29 October 2017
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Dark Overlord said
@Martha depending on your budget and or how lucky you are you may be able to afford both an electric and an acoustic but if you can’t, I’d go with acoustic if you’re more into pop, country, and folk but electric if you’re more into rock. If you can’t decide remember that an electric can be played acoustically although it’s very quietly and you can install a pickup into your acoustic guitar. There’s also acoustic electrics but be warned there’s multiple different types.

First, there’s the types like the Gibson J-160E where it uses an electric guitar pickup which The Beatles regularly used mainly acoustically but also occasionally electrically such as on I Feel Fine and She Loves You , this will sound like an acoustic guitar when played acoustically and like an electric guitar when amplified. Next, there’s the types to avoid, these are the ones where they’ll use some sort of microphone hidden under the bridge and they will sound like an acoustic at all costs, even when amplified, this is an example.

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So if you see controls on the side like this one has, it will sound like an acoustic guitar even when you plug it in. Finally, there’s guitars like the Epiphone Casino where it’s designed to be played as an electric but there are sound holes so it’s technically an acoustic electric, these are also great for feedback.

If you’d like I could help you further.  

Wow, thank you so much @Dark Overlord! That was so helpful!

I must admit for some reason, I didn’t even take the Epiphone Casino into consideration but now that you mentioned it, I remember how much I’ve always loved it when John played it.a-hard-days-night-paul-7 That’s definitely worth some serious thoughts, thanks again for the help, it’s highly appreciated!

Also, your guitars look truly beautiful, you did an awesome job on painting the Strat!apple01

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29 October 2017
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I wouldn’t go for the Casino unless you have a lot of money because it’s fairly expensive at around $600 or €500. If you’re looking for a cheaper guitar there’s an Epiphone Wildkat for $260 on eBay.

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It’s very similar to the Casino in that it’s also a hollow body electric guitar with p90s so it sounds very similar to the Casino.

By the way that isn’t my Stratocaster that I repainted that one got thrown out and I bought a new one.

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31 October 2017
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i’d recommend you on going for a expensive model. 500 euros is not that expensive for a guitar, less than that it’ll be a very very beginner thingy that might cause you more pain than joy.
There are a few factors to bear in mind like action, tuning, sound… cheap models tend to sound like crap, action tend to be hard and tuning not consistent at all… So may be going for a 500-600 euros might be a good choice for a start as you might feel more confortable and both sound and tuning will not be that frustating…

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31 October 2017
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Yes, mid-range is a safer option where you get at least reasonable build quality. I’ve just discovered a local (Australian) retailer who is online-only and buy direct from the factory, and some of their stuff looks pretty good for the price. I think it’s worth risking some money on this 5W tube amp and they have a very tempting jazzmaster clone. The internet is good sometimes!

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Shamrock Womlbs said
i’d recommend you on going for a expensive model. 500 euros is not that expensive for a guitar, less than that it’ll be a very very beginner thingy that might cause you more pain than joy.
There are a few factors to bear in mind like action, tuning, sound… cheap models tend to sound like crap, action tend to be hard and tuning not consistent at all… So may be going for a 500-600 euros might be a good choice for a start as you might feel more confortable and both sound and tuning will not be that frustating…  

As much as I agree with you that the Casino would be a good purchase I don’t think that @Martha can afford it.

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3 November 2017
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Thanks again, everyone! And thanks to ewe2 for sharing your insider tip concerning amps!apple01

After some thought and a chat with my guitar teacher, I’ve decided to go for an electric guitar. Currently, I contemplate the Fender Squier Classic Vibe Strat 60s. 

Million thanks again for all the helpful and kind advice, I’ll record a song with my new guitar when I have it, as a thank you to all of you. ( whether you like it or nota-hard-days-night-paul-11)

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3 November 2017
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Solid choice Martha. Theres really no way to go wrong with that guitar. 

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Great choice, although I would’ve went with the MIM Fender Stratocaster if I were in your situation the Classic Vibe 60s is a little cheaper which leaves you some more money so you can get a better amp and both are great guitars. The only problem I have with the Classic Vibe is that aside from limited edition runs it’s only available in sunburst with a red tortoiseshell guard. Personally I like solid colors and am not a big fan of tortoiseshell pickguards. Fortunately there are replacement pickguards if you don’t like the red tortoiseshell one so you can have a white or black or mint green pickguard instead but if you don’t like sunburst I’d go for the MIM Fender Stratocaster which is available in many colors. I’m curious, are you going to buy this guitar new or used.

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I just purchased an electric guitar!

It’s a G&L Tribute Edition Legacy.

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We also got a Vox VT20X amp, but because my parents had to buy that, I’m not allowed to use it until after exams (which won’t be for another two-and-a-half weeksa-hard-days-night-paul-10)

So, I’ve got a guitar, but nothing to play it with…

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sir walter raleigh said
Solid choice Martha. Theres really no way to go wrong with that guitar.   

Agreed, Classic Vibes are getting their prices jacked up (I think it’s ridiculous, its $AU1000 for one now), so catching one now is a good move. Paid my guitar off, that’ll turn up in the next week or so, bought a lovely strap for it here (I picked the army green one in the seatbelt straps section), and I’ll get a case for it later. I found another great cheap source of guitars which might interest European readers: Harley Benton guitars through the massive thomman.de site. They have some fine-looking teles that would just about suit me fine for various purposes and even the postage is ok!

@The Hole Got Fixed that Legacy looks really nice! You can’t go wrong with a G&L, the Tributes are built to a very high standard. You can still play it without an amp, good guitars will have the sustain to be audible.

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That’s really awesome, Holey! Congratulations and have great fun playing it! apple01

@Dark Overlord Unless I find something on ebay, which isn’t more expensive than the original, I’ll buy it newly, I think. But I’ll probably get the Amp second hand.

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ewe2 said

@The Hole Got Fixed that Legacy looks really nice! You can’t go wrong with a G&L, the Tributes are built to a very high standard. You can still play it without an amp, good guitars will have the sustain to be audible.  

That’s relieving to hear! We asked about everything under the sun, but not durability! Thanks. 

 

@Martha, remember that the amp is a large portion of the timbre, so you should give a fair bit of thought to that too. 

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Cool guitar @The Hole Got Fixed it reminds me of a 70’s Strat with the black guard and ash body.

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@Martha I was looking on eBay and I found this great deal that I thought you might like.

Fender Stratocaster electric blue

I know it isn’t a Squier Classic Vibe 60’s but it’s a legitimate Fender and it’s cheaper than the cheapest Classic Vibe 60’s I could find. You have to act fast though, the bidding ends today.

All of this has got me wondering though, if you were willing to spend a little more money and be patient, would they let you get a color that they don’t have standard for that model such as candy apple red on a Squier Classic Vibe or would they politely say we don’t do that. I know that back in the day they did it such as with Cliff Richards red Fender Stratocaster but I wonder what they’d do if I called up and asked to have a guitar painted in a non standard finish.

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