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I understand where you're coming from but unlike the difference between a Fender and a Gibson, there's quite a notable sound difference between an acoustic and an electric guitar and playing a song like Paperback Writer or Lord Of This World on an acoustic guitar can be done but it would sound considerably different.

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Dark Overlord said
I understand where you're coming from but unlike the difference between a Fender and a Gibson, there's quite a notable sound difference between an acoustic and an electric guitar and playing a song like Paperback Writer or Lord Of This World on an acoustic guitar can be done but it would sound considerably different.  

True, but there's nothing wrong with it sounding different. It'd still be the same song at the end of the day. That's why I focus more on composition then equipment. 

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I wonder, do any of you guys watch Rob Chapman's YouTube videos. It's pretty much 2 guitarists reviewing different guitar models, as well as occasional challenges and some other stuff.

Nothing better than watching 2 guys sit around and talk about guitars while doing jams in between.

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Ahh, thanks aplenty, @Silly Girl!!! a-hard-days-night-george-9apple01apple01apple01 (And DO too)

I've heard before that the tremolo systems can be a nuisance, but I suppose it won't be too much of a pain, because I'd like to use it. Though, I do like Teles. a-hard-days-night-george-10 I'd rather use alternate tunings on my acoustic, anyway, so that's good.

It's quite interesting to see all those little bits and pieces in there; thanks again! john-lennon-salute_gif

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I've heard before that the tremolo systems can be a nuisance, but I suppose it won't be too much of a pain, because I'd like to use it. Though, I do like Teles. a-hard-days-night-george-10 I'd rather use alternate tunings on my acoustic, anyway, so that's good.

It's quite interesting to see all those little bits and pieces in there; thanks again! john-lennon-salute_gif  

You're welcome! I like knowing how my stuff works, especially as it's really quite simple when you get down to it. And yeah, I usually only use alternate tunings on my acoustic as well.

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I wonder, do any of you guys watch Rob Chapman's YouTube videos. It's pretty much 2 guitarists reviewing different guitar models, as well as occasional challenges and some other stuff.

Nothing better than watching 2 guys sit around and talk about guitars while doing jams in between.  

Was that the comparison of Gibson and Epi models, I think I watched that. Chappers is a shredder, he has the bad habit of playing everything either overdriven or distorted which can get annoying if you want to hear the tonal range of a guitar, but he knows guitars. Rob is better at generalising about guitars though (IMHO) so it's a good mix when they work together.

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I don't think that was the Epiphone vs Gibson one. He sure knows his guitars, i bet i could play him a Beatles song and he'd be able to tell me what guitar model is being used in less than 10 seconds. As for Rob mainly using distorted tones, he's a metal guitarist so it fits him better and also some guitars like a Gibson SG or a Jackson King V are meant to be overdriven and sound terrible clean, at least to me. But he does use some clean tones occasionally.

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Those Rob Chapman videos sound cool; I'l have to check them out.  Another guy who puts out a series of videos on guitar is named "privettricker" -- he has I think dozens if not hundreds of videos where he just sits in front of the camera and plays along with various songs (including quite a few Beatles tunes), to show the viewer how to finger the chords & licks.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrzxd25lZOcAOj-M2eHVqJQ

In going there just now to get the link, I note that he has a video "Privettricker's Final Video".  Too bad...

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I'm planning on getting a new guitar soon as the blue Fender was having problems with the action and will be missed but I wasn't going to spend another 50 bucks on him after wasting $70 on him so he had to go, I'd write a eulogy but I don't like getting sad and I've had him for 2 years which is impressive considering that I don't typically keep things for very long but he was a great guitar, a 2004/2005 Fender MIM Stratocaster.

Anyways, this may seem hypocritical considering how I've negatively mentioned them in the past but I was thinking about getting a Squier mini Stratocaster or a Squier Bullet Stratocaster, preferably one in a color that I like so I don't get the urge to refinish it. I like the small size of the mini and how it only has 1 pointless knob instead of 2 (I consider tone knobs to be pointless) and it makes you feel like you have more control and it's also slightly cheaper but on the other hand I like that the bullet contains a tremolo system so if I want to do my best Jimi and mess around with the whammy bar I can.

I'm thinking about buying a right handed Stratocaster and converting it for left handed use so I hope these guitars can handle it which they should because they have a reversible nut and a straight bridge. The only thing I'm worried about is that I hope I like it because if I get one of the guitars the first thing I'm going to do is reverse the nut and put the strings on in reverse (as well as readjust the intonation if needed) and I don't think they'd let me return the guitar after doing that so I have to be 100% sure that I love the guitar before buying it. What are your thoughts.

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  Another guy who puts out a series of videos on guitar is named "privettricker" -- he has I think dozens if not hundreds of videos where he just sits in front of the camera and plays along with various songs (including quite a few Beatles tunes), to show the viewer how to finger the chords & licks.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrzxd25lZOcAOj-M2eHVqJQ

In going there just now to get the link, I note that he has a video "Privettricker's Final Video".  Too bad...  

I've been a subscriber of his for a while 🙂  I like his sensible playing.  It's not always faithful to the original (although it very often is) but he explains things well.  He did say he was giving up his channel because of trolling.  However I can recognise his playing, his voice (and certainly his taste in teeshirts!) when he appears as 'James James'.

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Dark Overlord said
I'm planning on getting a new guitar soon as the blue Fender was having problems with the action and will be missed but I wasn't going to spend another 50 bucks on him after wasting $70 on him so he had to go, I'd write a eulogy but I don't like getting sad and I've had him for 2 years which is impressive considering that I don't typically keep things for very long but he was a great guitar, a 2004/2005 Fender MIM Stratocaster.

Anyways, this may seem hypocritical considering how I've negatively mentioned them in the past but I was thinking about getting a Squier mini Stratocaster or a Squier Bullet Stratocaster, preferably one in a color that I like so I don't get the urge to refinish it. I like the small size of the mini and how it only has 1 pointless knob instead of 2 (I consider tone knobs to be pointless) and it makes you feel like you have more control and it's also slightly cheaper but on the other hand I like that the bullet contains a tremolo system so if I want to do my best Jimi and mess around with the whammy bar I can.

I'm thinking about buying a right handed Stratocaster and converting it for left handed use so I hope these guitars can handle it which they should because they have a reversible nut and a straight bridge. The only thing I'm worried about is that I hope I like it because if I get one of the guitars the first thing I'm going to do is reverse the nut and put the strings on in reverse (as well as readjust the intonation if needed) and I don't think they'd let me return the guitar after doing that so I have to be 100% sure that I love the guitar before buying it. What are your thoughts.  

I've played Squier Strats and they've seemed pretty great. If it were me i'd go for the Bullet just because of the tremolo - of course this depends on price and playing style of course! The idea of changing to left handed sounds good, but i'd find a shop which stocks them and give them both a serious try before purchasing.

You got any other guitar models in mind? Over the past few months i've come to the conclusion that Telecasters are by far my favourite electric guitars...

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I like Telecasters too but Fender Stratocasters are my favorite type of guitar and since I only plan on buying one guitar, it's going to be an S style guitar, preferably from Squier since I don't want to spend a lot of money although if I really like the guitar I'm going to replace the Squier logo with a Fender one.

There are a few things I am worried about though:

1. The tremolo system being there just for decoration (AKA guitar goes out of tune even if I just do some Hank Marvin style vibrato)

2. The mini is made of laminated hardwood and the bullet is made of basswood and I'm worried that it won't sound exactly like a Fender Stratocaster which is an alder body because wood supposedly affects tone

3. If I buy used and have to have my local Guitar Center order it for me from a different store I'm afraid that the guitar might need refretting (something I've seen on guitars in Guitar Center in the past) or might have paint chips off of it or will have intonation problems and will need a setup and I'm afraid that I won't be able to return it because it came from a different store

4. I'm worried that once I play the guitar for a few months that it'll need to be refretted or the pickups will blow or there will be intonation problems

5. Being left handed, I'm worried that I'll keep bumping the tone control which would suck because I like my guitars as treble-y as possible although if I really like my guitar and this becomes a problem, I can just snip the tone pot therefore in theory giving me tone bypass

6. I'm also worried that once I buy it, reverse the nut, and put the strings on backwards that they won't let me return it if I have a problem with it because I put the strings on in reverse and removed the nut.

I'm left handed but am a sucker for righty to lefty converted guitars, mainly because of Jimi Hendrix, who used converted Fender Stratocasters even when he could afford a genuine left handed one, such as when he used a 1968 Fender Stratocaster at Woodstock and even if I wanted a genuine left handed guitar, the cheapest Squier would be their Affinity series which is $200 and only comes in sunburst so I'd rather get a right handed Squier in a custom color such as candy apple red, lake placid blue, or Olympic white.

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Dark Overlord said
I like Telecasters too but Fender Stratocasters are my favorite type of guitar and since I only plan on buying one guitar, it's going to be an S style guitar, preferably from Squier since I don't want to spend a lot of money although if I really like the guitar I'm going to replace the Squier logo with a Fender one.

There are a few things I am worried about though:

1. The tremolo system being there just for decoration (AKA guitar goes out of tune even if I just do some Hank Marvin style vibrato)

Be prepared to make modifications, Squires are a great choice for this. There are great 2-point bridges out there that can replace the stock one which will give you all the tremolo you need without going out of tune. Talk to the guys at the shop!

2. The mini is made of laminated hardwood and the bullet is made of basswood and I'm worried that it won't sound exactly like a Fender Stratocaster which is an alder body because wood supposedly affects tone

Basswood is fine. I have a whole bass made from it, its a perfectly fine wood that will sustain. What's important is that the hardware transmit that sustain to the wood, and as long as it does that (and Strats do), the tone will be fine. Just realize that you can't have "the" perfect tone, all guitars even of the same model will have different tone. Your strings and your pickups will have a greater effect on tone than the wood, believe me.

3. If I buy used and have to have my local Guitar Center order it for me from a different store I'm afraid that the guitar might need refretting (something I've seen on guitars in Guitar Center in the past) or might have paint chips off of it or will have intonation problems and will need a setup and I'm afraid that I won't be able to return it because it came from a different store

I can't speak to that but if they're reputable, they should have a reasonable returns policy, and I've heard that with GC it's pretty good. Ask first and make sure of it.

4. I'm worried that once I play the guitar for a few months that it'll need to be refretted or the pickups will blow or there will be intonation problems

You'd have to play the guitar for quite a long time before refretting and I've never heard of, or seen, a pickup blowing. Intonation is something you can fix yourself or get a good setup from a music shop (again, might be a good idea to ask your local GC about that!).

 

5. Being left handed, I'm worried that I'll keep bumping the tone control which would suck because I like my guitars as treble-y as possible although if I really like my guitar and this becomes a problem, I can just snip the tone pot therefore in theory giving me tone bypass

You might have to modify your technique, but Jimi did ok a-hard-days-night-george-9

6. I'm also worried that once I buy it, reverse the nut, and put the strings on backwards that they won't let me return it if I have a problem with it because I put the strings on in reverse and removed the nut.

Again, talk to the guys at the shop about this, I've no doubt they have experience with this, you have to try and trust that. 

I'm left handed but am a sucker for righty to lefty converted guitars, mainly because of Jimi Hendrix, who used converted Fender Stratocasters even when he could afford a genuine left handed one, such as when he used a 1968 Fender Stratocaster at Woodstock and even if I wanted a genuine left handed guitar, the cheapest Squier would be their Affinity series which is $200 and only comes in sunburst so I'd rather get a right handed Squier in a custom color such as candy apple red, lake placid blue, or Olympic white.  

You never know, they might have what you want already lefty in the right colours, but don't sit and brood about this, go there and talk to them! Most of your worries here can be dealt with by just asking, that's what they're there for.

 

Speaking of guitars, I've paid off over half of my Epi so far, by November it should be here! stuart-sutcliffe

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2 days ago I got a new guitar, a blue Squier Affinity Stratocaster for $70 which I modded. First, I removed all of the stickers because I hate guitars with stickers on them. Then, I tried to reverse the nut for left handed use since the guitar was right handed. However, Fender style nuts are harder to yank out than Gibson and acoustic style ones so I split the nut in half and put a huge gap in the neck while trying to do so. Fortunately for me I kept the neck from my left handed Fender Stratocaster so now it's a Squier with a legitimate Fender neck. After that there was the problem that one of the E string's saddle springs and screws were missing so I took the spring and screw from an old Ibanez bridge and fixed it in no time. Then I put the strap on the lower horn which was hard at first due to it being slippery but I got a nail and pounded in and then did the same thing with the strap.

After that came the pickguard, it had some serious scratches in it so I replaced it with my original Starcaster one which by the way my Fender Starcaster was the kind that looks like a Strat not the kind that looks like a ES-335. I was also going to replace the pickup covers but sadly they didn't fit so I kept the stock ones on. Then came cleaning the sharpie off the guitar because someone drew around the pickguard with that stuff, just some rubbing alcohol and some scrubbing and that's done. Finally, there's the knobs of which 2 were white and one cream so I decided to replace them with the chrome knobs from my bass. Sadly, while doing this the top of the 1st tone knob popped off. However, I just did the same thing to the 2nd tone knob and then did a tone bypass by removing the tone transistor, therefore getting rid of those 2 pointless knobs and only leaving me with a chrome volume knob. Then I put some 10s on with the low E closest to the synchronized tremolo and had fun.

By the way, I learned 2 things from this. Number one is that you don't need to adjust the intonation when doing this and another thing is that the knobs don't get in your way when you play this way as long you remember to play below the cable.

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Since this is a guitar thread on a Beatles forum, I think this is an appropriate video to cite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjqUUafzBg4

I quite like this guy's tutorial style, LOTS of style videos from most of your rock heroes! I was fascinated to see Alex use a Fender Jazzmaster for this, with those lovely P90's. Mentions some interesting tricks from George and John, even Paul! Listen to the sound he gets when demonstrating Helter Skelter, it's quite close. It was an odd bit of synchronicity that came along today because yesterday I was watching this:

Mike demonstrates some great stuff of John's on an Epi Casino, P90's again! He does George (Gretsch) and Paul (Gibson Midtown Kalamazoo (!) and an accoustic I'm not familiar with) on other videos, worth checking out too. The John one really impresses me though, so many unheralded tricks, particularly those triplets.

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I stayed behind at school today to practice some guitar playing. I finally decided to use one of their Squire Stratocasters! The amp I was using was cool too, as it had a knob with differentiated between different effects (e.g. tremolo, overdrive, etc.) I was messing around with them until I decided to try out the phase effect. AMAZING! beatlemaniacs_02_gif Reminds me a lot of the guitars from Across The Universe. I wish we could use that in our project, @The Hole Got Fixed and @Martha, but alas, Gerald only has overdrive. 

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^Sounds really cool! I can totally relate, by the way, every moment I am allowed to only touch an electric guitar is a holy moment for me.

This brings me to a question I have to all of you, it's a life-changing question for me a-hard-days-night-george-10.

So, the thing is with a little help from my parents and my piggy bank I will be able to have a new guitar around new year. Because the (classical) guitar I currently have is a) bought from a supermarket for 60$ ages ago (so the quality is...  modest) and b) it is a bit broken (I had to stick the tailpiece to the body with glue, for example). The question is now: if you were in my situation, would you rather buy an acoustic guitar with a pickup or an electric guitar? 

I'm really thankful for any thoughts!

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HMMMM! ahdn_george_01

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WELL... First of all, congratulations @Martha! Secondly, that is a jolly good question. You do need to realise that an acoustic/electric guitar is really not going to be a substitute for an electric guitar, as it is mainly intended to amplify the acoustic sound for live performance purposes. (I think you can put effects on, but I haven't explored it, and it's not going to be a good idea for bedroom playing because the guitar is going to make a lot of regular acoustic guitar noise on its own that you don't want to hear if you're trying to be cool and overdriven. Goodness knows electric guitars, with their puny un-amplified sound, make enough string noise as it is. Trust me, I speak from experience. *Chingachinga*)

So what I'm saying is: if you want an electric guitar, get one. If you want an acoustic guitar, you should be fine with just a regular pickup-free acoustic guitar.

As to whether you should choose an acoustic or an electric guitar, I'm not going to tell you what to do. That will take some soul-searching. (If I had no sense of fun, then I would tell you to get an acoustic because it's better for your learnin', being harder to play and all that. But I do have a sense of fun, so I'm not going to tell you to deny yourself the thrill of electric amplification just for discipline's sake. We are in this for fun, after all!

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Thank you very much for your response @Silly Girl! That was very, very helpful!apple01heart

You really made it clear that an acoustic guitar is an acoustic guitar and an electric guitar is an electric guitar and that none of them can be a half substitute for the other only because there are some pickups attached. So, it's all down to acoustic vs electric again, which makes it easier (but not easy!paul-mccartney)

I guess, I'll have a lot of soul searching and long sessions with George'n'Jimmy'n'David ahead nowa-hard-days-night-george-10

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I’ll tell you that its a lot more fun playing on a nice new acoustic guitar than an old crummy one. But there is also nothing like playing your elecric guitar for the first time. So it really just depends which type of music you expect to play more, but whichever you choose I expect that guitar to get a lot of love. 

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