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AppleScruffJunior, I noticed that you claimed that Swiss people speak French, which is a lie. I also noticed that you claim Irish people speak Irish, which is also a lie. Irish people speak English, Swiss people speak Dutch, and you speak English.  

Oh wow, nach bhfuil Gaeilge agam?  Caithfidh mé a rá go breathnaíonn sé an-aineolach nuair a déireann tú go labhraíonn na hEilvéisigh Ollainnis.

Die Leute aus der Schweiz sprechen Franzoesisch, Deutsch und Italienisch. Niemand spricht Niederlaendisch.  

Mais oui, les irlandais ne parlent pas la langue irlandaise? Comme j'ai déja dit, fais tes récherches avant tu fais tes postes ici. 

 

Yes I can speak English, doesn't mean I only speak English though m8. Also don't go tossing around words like "(this) is a lie" before you make a post, it just makes you look a tad bit foolish when people correct you.

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Yiddish:
The Middle East

Oh wow. XD. Yes, I can totally see Iran, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Israel to name a few, all speaking Jewish.

Egyptian:
Egypt

But they are in Africa, should they be speaking African?

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Yiddish:
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Oh wow. XD. Yes, I can totally see Iran, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Israel to name a few, all speaking Jewish.

I love how Yiddish was picked instead of Hebrew as the designated Middle East language. All Jews can speak a bit of Hebrew, few can speak Yiddish. Also there is quite a bit of antisemitism in the Arab world so I don't think they'd take fondly to having to speak Jewish. 

 

Egyptian:
Egypt

But they are in Africa, should they be speaking African?  

She has a point @HMBeatlesfan.

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Oh wow, I have not Irish? I must say that it looks very ignorant when you say that the Swiss speak Dutch.

People from Switzerland speak French, German and Italian. Nobody speaks Dutch.

But yes, the Irish do not speak the Irish language? As I have already said, do your research before you make your posts here.

Yes I can speak English, doesn't mean I only speak English though m8. Also don't go tossing around words like "(this) is a lie" before you make a post, it just makes you look a tad bit foolish when people correct you.

Please don't make me go through Google translate like that again, it really pisses me off, this isn't the outro of Sun King , now try to read this.

Así que me llaman el grande del jamón de la vaca me sheer orangután kawasaki maullido maullido pollo frito todo bong un bongo bangy sonó clang clang biddi de biddi de bop clop rop en pop no se detienen hasta que usted cae. Alle hageln Ihre neu gefunden König Sir Thomas Jerry für die Walross ist gut, Sie dürfen nicht fragen, aber chariho wie Mickey Mouse sagte in Gone Mit dem Wind Sie schmutzig goddamn LKW-Enten Ich pisse auf Laternenpfahl, wenn ich ein Kind war, habe ich früher Angst vor Sankt Claus U-Bahn diddly Boppity Moo Rutschen und Leitern sterben sie sagen, in rot ausführen weißes Land moo moo die moo. efj odof Jod vi fho ocb jdfn jw v o ego vdo efojeg jf kef kgem km osm eob o mk kn234 tykg dfe nt n9 efu hb8u hf8ugbnefn 4tk efk45irm dvi dvefijv odnbok sm okfd ofm okvx oekfn ijdgn uycvd vbusijfbmgdfoc bdfuh wsfghj  dfgh dfgh  gt   gfc gf gfv br dvet b gfh fgne vf sfbefijbnetijrvnjodgn onoin oijokenbn k noenono vknokernboknohkbn oiemnoknbosk nokef nok neokf nfokbnc okegn okvn okdf nokegb kscv erkmdf cwrmntk rkvsfhkr vket yjksd bkmrt gvjkt jkr vkjwrngojernbojfnhokfn otjoib joigmb oivmbokdf modkfbmokethmoksc nrgkmfv ekmh wkmf rkmf rkmrg vkmsfb kmfdb kmeth gmsdf hkrtf boket hok xvkobjeti0ofdgjvsoifjrwoigjoidgbj okdgjfoibn kjfb kfdb erkfnv kneth knme hkr gkmet gkmet hkmre hkjfs iovjnoitjfboigjbod btokb vjodmgoibk nvdkmhdm g d qwertyuio ifv bhyt rdcv bnjhygf cvbnj uhgf vd  qwertyuio oiugfdcv bhjkio p[l kjhgf der tyuik mnb hjkl; poi jnbvc fghj ytf cd fghj ygv.

I dare you.

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I read it, it was in an ugly block of text, thought not unusual.

Egyptian are in Africa, should they be speaking African?

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If they want to.

Maybe you should try posting more.

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What does African language look like?

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Almost identical to Swahili (or even the same as...). Or Afrikaans, depending on where you are. Or French. Or Portuguese. Or Arabic. Or English. Or Spanish. Or any range of native/tribal languages.

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But that describe the myriad of languages spoken on the continent of Africa. What I'm asking for is the singular African Language that HMBeatlesfan brought up.

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Oh wow, I have not Irish? I must say that it looks very ignorant when you say that the Swiss speak Dutch.

People from Switzerland speak French, German and Italian. Nobody speaks Dutch.

But yes, the Irish do not speak the Irish language? As I have already said, do your research before you make your posts here.

Yes I can speak English, doesn't mean I only speak English though m8. Also don't go tossing around words like "(this) is a lie" before you make a post, it just makes you look a tad bit foolish when people correct you.

Please don't make me go through Google translate like that again, it really pisses me off, this isn't the outro of Sun King , now try to read this.

Así que me llaman el grande del jamón de la vaca me sheer orangután kawasaki maullido maullido pollo frito todo bong un bongo bangy sonó clang clang biddi de biddi de bop clop rop en pop no se detienen hasta que usted cae. Alle hageln Ihre neu gefunden König Sir Thomas Jerry für die Walross ist gut, Sie dürfen nicht fragen, aber chariho wie Mickey Mouse sagte in Gone Mit dem Wind Sie schmutzig goddamn LKW-Enten Ich pisse auf Laternenpfahl, wenn ich ein Kind war, habe ich früher Angst vor Sankt Claus U-Bahn diddly Boppity Moo Rutschen und Leitern sterben sie sagen, in rot ausführen weißes Land moo moo die moo. efj odof Jod vi fho ocb jdfn jw v o ego vdo efojeg jf kef kgem km osm eob o mk kn234 tykg dfe nt n9 efu hb8u hf8ugbnefn 4tk efk45irm dvi dvefijv odnbok sm okfd ofm okvx oekfn ijdgn uycvd vbusijfbmgdfoc bdfuh wsfghj  dfgh dfgh  gt   gfc gf gfv br dvet b gfh fgne vf sfbefijbnetijrvnjodgn onoin oijokenbn k noenono vknokernboknohkbn oiemnoknbosk nokef nok neokf nfokbnc okegn okvn okdf nokegb kscv erkmdf cwrmntk rkvsfhkr vket yjksd bkmrt gvjkt jkr vkjwrngojernbojfnhokfn otjoib joigmb oivmbokdf modkfbmokethmoksc nrgkmfv ekmh wkmf rkmf rkmrg vkmsfb kmfdb kmeth gmsdf hkrtf boket hok xvkobjeti0ofdgjvsoifjrwoigjoidgbj okdgjfoibn kjfb kfdb erkfnv kneth knme hkr gkmet gkmet hkmre hkjfs iovjnoitjfboigjbod btokb vjodmgoibk nvdkmhdm g d qwertyuio ifv bhyt rdcv bnjhygf cvbnj uhgf vd  qwertyuio oiugfdcv bhjkio p[l kjhgf der tyuik mnb hjkl; poi jnbvc fghj ytf cd fghj ygv.

I dare you.  

There's a lot of German bullshit in there about pissing on lampposts, something dirty, and the Underground. It makes no sense whatsoever. What are you trying to achieve with this?

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Considering almost everybody here is from the US and the few that aren't are from the UK, it's safe to assume everybody here speaks English and nothing else.  

Wow. That's a bit of an asinine thing to say, mate. I'm Dutch and there are several other Dutch people here. Dutch people speak Dutch (obviously), and most also speak English. The majority of us has learnt German and French in school as well.

But, that's not the point. What a ridiculous thing to say, or even think, that we're all American or British here. What you wrote there is one of the reasons so many people hate Yanks. Just saying.

 

Dutch:

Denmark

Sweden

Norway

Finland

Greenland

Iceland

Scandinavia

Holland

The Netherlands

 

Oy vey. Are you really that stupid?

Firstly: Holland is a part of the Netherlands, not a separate nation. And no, it's not the same thing, either. Holland is just two provinces. The Netherlands has 10 more provinces that aren't 'Holland'.

Also: Scandinavia isn't a country.

Lastly: Dutch is spoken in:

The Netherlands

Belgium

The Netherlands Antilles (Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, Saba, St. Eustatius, and St. Martin)

Suriname

And, if you want to be technical about it, South-Africa. Afrikaans was brought to South Africa by the Dutch, and is to this day very similar although it has developed differently.

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There's a lot of German bullshit in there about pissing on lampposts, something dirty, and the Underground. It makes no sense whatsoever. What are you trying to achieve with this?  

I just wanted to show how much I hate having to go into Google translate and translate ASJ's post that she wrote in 3 languages, so I did 3 nonsensical sentences, the first sentence in Spanish, the 2nd one in German, and the 3rd one by pressing random keys on my keyboard. Here's a complimentary translation:

So call me Ham big cow me meow meow sheer orangutan kawasaki fried chicken all Bangy bongo bong one clang clang sounded Biddi of Biddi bop pop clop rop do not stop until you drop. All hail your new found King Sir Thomas Jerry for the walrus is good, do not ask, but chariho like Mickey Mouse said in Gone With the Wind, you dirty goddamn truck ducks I piss on lamppost when I was a kid, I have earlier fear of Santa Claus subway diddly Boppity Moo chutes and ladders they die say in red running white country moo moo moo the. Nonsensical Gibberish, the equivalent of the vocals in Flying .

There he (unsure of gender) goes again
Oy vey. Are you really that stupid?

Firstly: Holland is a part of the Netherlands, not a separate nation. And no, it's not the same thing, either. Holland is just two provinces. The Netherlands has 10 more provinces that aren't 'Holland'.

Also: Scandinavia isn't a country.

Lastly: Dutch is spoken in:

The Netherlands

Belgium

The Netherlands Antilles (Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, Saba, St. Eustatius, and St. Martin)

Suriname

And, if you want to be technical about it, South-Africa. Afrikaans was brought to South Africa by the Dutch, and is to this day very similar although it has developed differently.

Hard stuff to know if you're an American who dropped out at 16 in the 8th grade.

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If you are unsure of gender, why not go from something neutral like they?

Maybe Holland borders the nation of Africa where they speak African.

Also, don't use school as an excuse, you have the internet, you can research.

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A question for @AppleScruffJunior and anyone else who'd like to answer:

How difficult is it to learn German? I'm considering taking it sometime, and I'm just curious. a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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I'm not @AppleScruffJunior but I found German to be relatively difficult. I first learnt the language in school when I was 12, although I did have German pen pals prior to that -- my older sister would check my letters and correct them for me. 

The main issue are the many grammatical cases you have to take into account. I was in hospital when those were taught, and I never managed to catch up on that. Also, German nouns are either male, female, or neutral. This affects the pronouns mostly, and it can be tricky for those whose language doesn't have that distinction. E.g.:

the cat - die Katze (female)

the house - das Haus (neutral)

the footballer - der Fußballspieler (male)

Dutch does, so it wasn't too difficult for me even though male and female nouns both get a 'de' pronoun, and the neutral pronoun is 'het'. In my language, the distinction between male and female is a lot less visible than in German. Of course, the gender of words isn't always the same in German as it is in Dutch either, so it's easy to get wrong.

Anyway, I think it's a fairly complicated language to learn, but not as difficult as French. Pronunciation should also be easier than, say, Dutch. If you want to, you should have a bash at it. It's a nice language to know, and you'll be able to carry a conversation quite well relatively quickly.

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There he (unsure of gender) goes again
Oy vey. Are you really that stupid?

Firstly: Holland is a part of the Netherlands, not a separate nation. And no, it's not the same thing, either. Holland is just two provinces. The Netherlands has 10 more provinces that aren't 'Holland'.

Also: Scandinavia isn't a country.

Lastly: Dutch is spoken in:

The Netherlands

Belgium

The Netherlands Antilles (Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, Saba, St. Eustatius, and St. Martin)

Suriname

And, if you want to be technical about it, South-Africa. Afrikaans was brought to South Africa by the Dutch, and is to this day very similar although it has developed differently.

Hard stuff to know if you're an American who dropped out at 16 in the 8th grade.  

 

It's she, as you bloody well know, and your excuse has no merit with me. I'm Dutch, and I dropped out of school at the age of 16 too.

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I'm not AppleScruffJunior

You learn something new everyday.

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I'm not AppleScruffJunior

You learn something new everyday.  

.....what if she is? Have you ever seen us online at the same time? 

 

And as for @WeepingAtlasCedars  German is a lovely language. The grammar is quite difficult as @Mademoiselle Kitty >^..^< pointed out. There are 16 different ways of saying 'the' in German depending on context- der, die, das, die, den, die, das, die, dem, der, dem, den, des, der, des, der (also if somebody says "you're repeating the same ones over again", I'm not it's the grammatical cases). You also have different ways of saying mine (mich/mir) yours (dich/dir) etc. depending on the context.

The grammar is complicated but once you get 'it', you have it forever. You might feel overwhelmed at the beginning but if you ever meet some Germans, they're always very impressed that you can speak German even if it is at a beginner's level. Once you have grammar sorted it's just continuous practice and vocab building.

 

From a job perspective- German is very employable. The Germans like to conduct business through German, and the demand is ridiculously high for bilingual German-English speakers (particularly in western Europe if you ever want to move to UK/Ireland). I could leave college right now halfway through 1st year and probably got a job more or less immediately with my French and German at the standard it is now. 

 

Americans find German difficult to pronounce (especially umlauts and 'chen' words) but with continuous listening to German videos/tv shows/dubbing on YouTube or wherever you'll pick it up quickly enough. 

In saying that I would recommend to pick it up, having a 2nd language is brilliant both for employability and for your brain (studies suggest it delays dementia if it's in your genes), you also get to open up an entire new world to yourself full of fantastic literature, films and music! 

 

And as I say to everyone who is learning German, French or even Irish (you get bonus points if you're learning Irish in my books), I'm more than happy to speak the language with you over Skype or whatever. 

As they say 'Vorsprung Durch Technik Sprechen'

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But she's not.

Two reasons: number a) She says she's not (which I believe); and number b) I am AppleScruffJunior.

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Nah, the only true AppleScruffJunior is @HongKongLady.

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