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A.V. Club article focusing on their least-skippable Beatles tracks.

One point in the article caught my attention

Over the course of their eight-year existence, the Beatles released 27 studio albums, churning out LPs like Help , Rubber Soul , and Revolver within the space of a single year. 

Anyone care to explain how they got 27 studio albums in 8 years (or just over three a year on average)?

 

They're probably playing pretty fast and loose with the definition of "studio album."  They're probably counting stuff like A Collection Of Beatles Oldies and Hey Jude .

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Ooh, great thread... 

I have to reeeeeeeeally hate a song to skip it. And since I'm pretty much physically incapable of truly hating any Beatles song, there are few songs I skip (Dizzy Miss Lizzy being one of them). 

I feel like it's disloyal to the band to skip songs-- if they put it there it is my duty to find some value in it-- and I'm a fiend for 'correct' track listings. (Hence, why I can recite the track listing of Rubber Soul from memory.) There are songs, such as I Want You (She's So Heavy) that I didn't like at all at first, but after several listenings, they grew on me and now I love them. 

No offence meant to anyone who has no qualms about skipping a song they don't like, of course. It's only me. 

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Necko said

meanmistermustard said
A.V. Club article focusing on their least-skippable Beatles tracks.
One point in the article caught my attention

Over the course of their eight-year existence, the Beatles released 27 studio albums, churning out LPs like Help , Rubber Soul , and Revolver within the space of a single year. 

Anyone care to explain how they got 27 studio albums in 8 years (or just over three a year on average)?

 

They're probably playing pretty fast and loose with the definition of "studio album."  They're probably counting stuff like A Collection Of Beatles Oldies and Hey Jude .

I'd guess they're talking US albums. If you include the VJ albums, and The Beatles' Story, you can get it up to close on that figure (I can make 23/24-ish), and add a couple of variations on the Tony Sheridan, you're just about there. They're not good on figures though, as they claim 237 songs, when it was 217.

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However far you stretch the elastic its difficult to get to 27 without pulling so hard it snaps and hurts your fingers - no-one in their right mind would seriously consider if ever tallying up released US Beatles albums variations of albums.

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However far you stretch the elastic its difficult to get to 27 without pulling so hard it snaps and hurts your fingers - no-one in their right mind would seriously consider if ever tallying up released US Beatles albums variations of albums.

Maybe they're counting Canadian and Australian discographies, as well.

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Here are the U.K. albums:

1. Please Please Me

2. With The Beatles

3. A Hard Day's Night

4. Beatles For Sale

5. Help !

6. Rubber Soul

7. Revolver

8. Sgt. Pepper

9. The Beatles (White Album )

10. Abbey Road

11. Let It Be

Total Albums: Eleven

 

U.S. Albums (not including identical/mostly identical albums released simultaneously in U.K.) :

12. Introducing... The Beatles

13. Meet The Beatles!

14. The Beatles' Second Album

15. Something New

16. Beatles '65

17. Beatles VI (also released in New Zealand)

18. Yesterday And Today

19. Magical Mystery Tour

Total albums: Eight

 

Canadian Albums (same rules as U.S.) :

20. Beatlemania! With The Beatles

21. Twist And Shout

22. The Beatles' Long Tall Sally

Total albums: three

 

Notable compilations during the Beatles' eight-year run:

23. The Beatles' Story (U.S., 1964)

24. The Early Beatles (U.S., 1964)

25. A Collection Of Beatles Oldies (worldwide, 1966)

26. Greatest Hits Volume 1 (Australia, 1966)

27. Greatest Hits Volume 2 (Australia, 1967)

 

If you stretch the rules a bit, it's easy to get to twenty-seven.

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Flippin' hell - never realised the Beatles were that busy. And here was me thinking they didnt release that much. I must be missing a hell off a lot of their material - at least 20 tracks.

 

And you missed 'Yellow Submarine ' @Necko. 28 now.

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Including the Canadian albums (which were not hard to find in the US), you can reach 28 solely with North American releases (although I agree with mmm that some of this is pushing it):

1: Beatlemania! With the Beatles (Capitol Canada; 1963)
2: Introducing... the Beatles (Vee-Jay; 1964)
3: Meet the Beatles! (Capitol; 1964)
4: The Beatles with Tony Sheridan & Guests (MGM; 1964)
5: Twist And Shout (Capitol Canada; 1964)
6: The Beatles' Second Album (Capitol; 1964)
7: The Beatles' Long Tall Sally (Capitol Canada; 1964)
8: A Hard Day's Night (United Artists; 1964)
9: Something New (Capitol; 1964)
10: Ain't She Sweet (Atco; 1964)
11: Jolly What! The Beatles & Frank Ifield (On Stage) (Vee-Jay; 1964)
12: The Beatles vs. The Four Seasons (Vee-Jay; 1964)
13: Songs, Pictures and Stories of the Fabulous Beatles (Vee-Jay; 1964)
14: Beatles '65 (Capitol; 1964)
15: The Early Beatles (Capitol; 1965)
16: Beatles VI (Capitol; 1965)
17: Help ! (Capitol; 1965)
18: Rubber Soul (Capitol; 1965)
19: Yesterday and Today (Capitol; 1966)
20: Revolver (Capitol; 1966)
21: Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Capitol; 1967)
22: Magical Mystery Tour (Capitol; 1967)
23: The Beatles (Apple; 1968)
24: Yellow Submarine (Apple; 1969)
25: Abbey Road (Apple; 1969)
26: Hey Jude (Apple; 1969)
27: In the Beginning (Circa 1960) (Polydor; 1970)
28: Let It Be (Apple; 1970)

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(although I agree with mmm that some of this is pushing it):

Well, I never said that they weren't.  I agree as well.

 

EDIT: Let's be honest, here, though.  Most people aren't going to be as picky about this as we are.

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Necko said

Ron Nasty said
(although I agree with mmm that some of this is pushing it):

Well, I never said that they weren't.  I agree as well.

 

EDIT: Let's be honest, here, though.  Most people aren't going to be as picky about this as we are.

I was talking about my North American releases-only list there, Necko. It wasn't a comment on your list.

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Albums used to be creative entities, they aren't any more. When I was younger I'd listen to whole albums, but depending on what I'm doing at the time, I tend to listen to playlists now, the unit of art is back to the song, and you can blame the industry for that. There's still the odd album I regard as listenable throughout but it's a rare band that can carry that off these days, if there ever was. Songwriters just don't know what people are going to latch onto anyway, and I can't name a producer worthy of the title to make an album worth listening to all the way through. Maybe Rick Rubin who's managed the rare feat of doing it at least twice for me (Paul's Boutique and Blood Sugar Sex Magick, and they're long albums too!).

Beatles are a special case to me, I came to them through singles and famous album tracks. I'm much more likely to let the White Album or Revolver play through than Sgt Peppers or Abbey Road , so go figure.

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Necko said

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(although I agree with mmm that some of this is pushing it):

Well, I never said that they weren't.  I agree as well.

 

EDIT: Let's be honest, here, though.  Most people aren't going to be as picky about this as we are.

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The follow-up to least skippable tracks (posted earlier in the thread) - most skippable tracks.

I think this was at times 'name a Beatles song starting with that letter of the alphabet' and then gripe; eg for 'Old Brown Shoe ' -  "a George Harrison song so underwhelming it didn’t even make an official Beatles LP".

And low and behold they don't like 'Run For Your Life ': "But the horrible message—“I’d rather see you dead little girl, than to see you with another man,” throwing Lennon in the role of crazed stalker (“You won’t know where I am”)—has no place in the peace and love of the Beatles canon." Can't be having no nasty Beatles a-hard-days-night-ringo-6- strangely no 'You can't Do That' tho.

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meanmistermustard said

And low and behold they don't like 'Run For Your Life ': "But the horrible message—“I’d rather see you dead little girl, than to see you with another man,” throwing Lennon in the role of crazed stalker (“You won’t know where I am”)—has no place in the peace and love of the Beatles canon." Can't be having no nasty Beatles a-hard-days-night-ringo-6- strangely no 'You can't Do That' tho.

Also Maxwell's Silver Hammer isn't on the list even though it is even more violent than Run For Your Life .

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meanmistermustard said

The follow-up to least skippable tracks (posted earlier in the thread) - most skippable tracks.

Is there a topic for "dumbest reasons to hate Beatles songs"? Because this list has it all. Hating Walrus for "the bullshit between the notes", and Hey Jude because Linda sang it badly once, wow.

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Read thru their entry for 'This Boy '. Their reason for not liking it is that its not as energised as earlier Beatles songs (its not that type of song for goodsake sake, what about 'All 'Ive Got To Do', 'If I Fell ') and where in the released version (not the outtakes) does it get "a little lost in the lyrics between “This Boy ” and “that boy”. 

And for 'Come Together ' you cant take the lyrics seriously nowadays but back in 1969 shooting coca-cola and being a holy-roller you could! And they ignored 'The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill '. But an article this stupid probably thought that started with the letter 't'.

If the article was based on sensible arguments I wouldnt have been so irked.

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For Piggies  it says: George Harrison attempted some societal commentary on The Beatles’ worst track. I get it if you don't like Piggies and you hate it with all your heart, but, the worst song on The Beatles?

The Jazz Piano Song (which I didn't know of until now) part is even better: It barely even qualifies as a Beatles song, which is why it should barely even be acknowledged as one. So, why do you even put it?

Also, did anyone notice Hey Jude and Komm Gib Mir Deine Hand are in both lists?

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I'm just curious about the whole "I don't like that song so I skip the track" thing.

I have no problem skipping:

Revolution 9 , as it isn't even a song, but a collage of sounds (not to my liking, and god knows I've tried)

Till There Was You , only because I find it so outdated and ok if your a girl, (but do find myself humming it sometimes), but again there a few more on the early LPs that fit that bill!

 

Unlike most bands, you can listen to a whole Beatles album!

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Another article generated from the Beatles now being available to stream (think Apple about all that money and publicity you missed out on over the years because you're all idiots), this time focusing on the top 10 skippers.

note: not based on figures but someone's opinion, hence you may disagree, I certainly do.

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