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12 March 2020
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Wow, intriguing…

I think my internal monologue is a combination of words and vaguely visualized concepts. It depends on what I’m doing. I spend a lot of time in my head — it’s a fascinating place. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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I have an internal monologue and it’s quite irritating a lot of the time. 

A quick question that’s maybe not suited for this thread but whatever:

Are certain smells or feelings associated with weather/holidays/seasons for anyone else? If I say it smells like summer or it feels like Halloween, does that make sense? (I’m assuming it’s a sort of association my brain is making, like the smell of certain trees that flower in specific seasons or whatever, but I’m still curious.)

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^ yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes

I’ve always had strong associations with certain smells and certain circumstances/times of year, and I think most people probably do, because if I recall from General Psych, the smell-processing-area of the brain is quite connected to the memory-processing-area of the brain.

I also get very strong feelings at various times of the year prompted by a complex combination of factors including smell/climate/temp/sunlight levels/flora, I’m glad I’m not the only one.

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@Beatlebug is correct: smells are processed through the amygdala, which is kind of the emotional center of the brain (major simplification, but that’s the basic gist). For example, I always associate the smell of charcoal with winter in my original hometown, and my current hometown definitely has a certain smell and “feel” that I’ve never been able to adequately describe to anyone else. And other smells, like the smell of car exhaust, can remind me of New York City, even if I’m nowhere near an urban area. Smells are weird that way. 

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As for the question of internal monologues, I very much have one, and I’m either talking to myself or at least “hearing” thoughts all day. However, I am also a very visual person when it comes to ideas: for example, I have been obsessed with history for most of my life, and I can visualize a timeline of world history in my head and place events on it. I also imagine ideas in an almost visual way, but not entirely; they don’t fully manifest as images in my head, they’re more like shadows of images. 

God , the human mind is fascinating.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 Same here, I’ve always remembered things better when I could see them as hazy shadows in my mind. It’s how I remember most everything, from concepts and facts to the arrangements and lyrics of songs.

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I definitely have an internal monologue and also have conversations with myself throughout the day in my own head. Though when I think about it too much, I start to have an existential crisis…

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 Same here, I’ve always remembered things better when I could see them as hazy shadows in my mind. It’s how I remember most everything, from concepts and facts to the arrangements and lyrics of songs.

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God , the human mind is fascinating.  

  

I also remember things visually. Like when I remember math equations or stuff for physics or chemistry, I remember it as an image of the formula/concept rather than the actual thing. Like when I memorized the unit circle for pre-calculus I memorized the actual image of the unit circle. Or when I try to recall song lyrics I recall an image of those lyrics written out and then sort of just read it from inside my mind…..

It’s very weird and hard to try to put how my brain works into words and explanations…

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^I usually try to do that but I can’t remember any actual information that’s a part of the picture. If I need to remember information I just visualize it in my mind.

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I too have an ongoing internal monologue that is usually pleasant, but can become stressful. Meditation is a good tool to deal with an overactive mind. I also would visualize the contents of a text book when taking tests, part of my memorizing technique. My mind does have an odd trick it plays on me sometimes which is not part of an internal dialogue. I can do some activity (say pumping gas) and as I drive away I look in the rear view mirror and the sight of where I was just standing triggers a warm nostalgic feeling. Or have family time on the ocean pier and as we walk back to the car along the ridge above it, look back to where we just were and without conscious effort visualize everything that just happened as though it is a long ago memory. 

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I am hit by nostalgia at the most random of times and also the most reliable. For instance, I felt super nostalgic on the way home from school for some reason, but then every time I smell spring the nostalgia is smothering.

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50yearslate said
every time I smell spring the nostalgia is smothering.  

I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE

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Beatlebug said

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every time I smell spring the nostalgia is smothering.  

I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE

  

oh my goodness this also happens to me! 

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Also bay trees and night air.

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^Not sure what bay trees are like but it sounds nice. ahdn_john_08_gif

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That would be the Laurus Nobilis, Bebe…

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…from which we get Bay leaves of cooking fame.

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Are you sure, Ron? That looks awfully small… I’ll look up other names for the tree I have in mind.

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This lil guy. I can’t tell if that’s the one in Ron’s picture but these things get huge, I can’t imagine why you’d have one in a pot.

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The Laurus Nobilis is definitely the Bay tree, or Bay Laurel, Fiddy… a-hard-days-night-paul-7 

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They do grow taller but are often trained to be smaller to make the leaves easier to harvest…

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Well, I knew what a bay was, but I’m not familiar with the smell of bay trees and night air in California. I imagine it must be very nice.

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It’s quite nice. The scent of bay leaves themselves is actually a bit too strong for my taste but when you smell them from afar it’s marvellous.

And Ron, sorry for the mistake, I was confused as the tree you posted looked nothing like what I know a bay tree to be. I know them as sky-scraping monsters with little yellow florets. I love them.

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