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Some discussion here and elsewhere about MP’s/politicians having consciences and guts to stand up to their own Parties…….

Here’s a wonderful example of both…….Hats off to this man…….He gives a history lesson and some refreshing honesty to parliament.

You really believe Biden will win the nomination?

For contextual information…….The median average age for Presidents at their time of inauguration is 55 years and 3 months…….Reagan was the oldest president to leave office……He was 77 and 349 days after his 2nd term.

Trump at 70 years and 220 days is already the oldest ever to assume office……..

All I have with regards to proof is that Trump says he was joking….and winding the media up.

Let’s hear your proof that he wasn’t joking…….. 

For me this should go in the happiness thread, as I see the humour………But I thought I’d get complaints so…….

Here’s a moral for the age…… This age!

The Ant & the 

GRASSHOPPER

 

This one is a little different …

Two Different Versions … 
Two Different Morals

 

OLD VERSION

 

The ant works 
hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

 

The grasshopper 
thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

 

Come winter, the ant is warm 
and well fed.

 

The grasshopper has 
no food or shelter, so he 
dies out in the cold.

 

MORAL OF THE OLD STORY:

 

Be responsible for yourself!

 

MODERN 
VERSION

 

The ant works hard 
in the withering heat and the rain all summer long, building his house
and laying up supplies for the winter.

 

The grasshopper thinks the ant 
is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

 

Come winter, the shivering grasshopper 
calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be 
allowed to be warm and well fed while he is cold and starving..

 

CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN,   
and ABC show up to 
provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper 
next to a video of the ant 
in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. 
America is stunned by the sharp contrast.

 

 

How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper 
is allowed to suffer so?

Kermit the Frog appears 
on Oprah 
with the grasshopper 
and everybody cries when they sing, ‘It’s Not Easy Being Green’

Occupy the Anthill stages 
a demonstration in front of the ant’s house where the news stations film the

Black Lives Matter group singing, We shall overcome.

 

Then Reverend Al Sharpton  
has the group kneel down to pray for the grasshopper 
while he damns the ants. He later appears on MSNBC to complain that rich people do not care.

 

Former President Obama condemns the ant 
and blames 
Donald Trump, President Bush 43, President Bush 41, President Reagan, Christopher Columbus, and the 
Pope 
for the grasshopper’s 
plight.

 

Nancy Pelosi & Chuck Schumer   
exclaim in an interview on The View 
that the ant has 
gotten rich off the back of the 
grasshopper, 
and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share.

 

Finally, the EEOC drafts 
the Economic Equity & 
Anti-Grasshopper Act 
retroactive to the beginning of 
the summer.

The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number 
of green bugs and, 
having; nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the 

Government Green Czar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and given to the grasshopper.

 

The story ends as we see the grasshopper 
and his free-loading friends finishing up the last bits of the ant’s food while the government house he is in, 

which, as you recall, just happens to be the ant’s old house, 
crumbles around them because the grasshopper doesn’t maintain it.

 

The ant has disappeared in the snow, never to be seen again.

 

The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident, and the house, now abandoned, is taken 
over by a gang of SPIDERS who terrorize the ramshackle, once prosperous and peaceful, neighborhood.

 

The entire Nation collapses bringing the rest
of the free world with it.

 

MORAL OF THE STORY:

 

Be careful how you vote in 2020.

 

I think your interpretation is a stretch……But why not?   That’s the beauty of the human parallax D.O.

We see what we want to see from the different degrees of angle of our views ……..We rationalise a way that the, irrational and the rational can merge to fit best with our established world views…..See order in chaos or chaos in order……….

Or…… as in this example see the weaknesses in capitalism where others would see it’s virtues……or the virtues in socialism where others see only its pitfalls.

We are free,  (I think, our conditioning aside), to decide for ourselves the lessons that fables, allegories and parables are designed to illustrate…..

The fable I pasted is only a bit of fun……

Anyway…… why do you call yourself Dark Overlord…I’m not aware of it being a Beatle reference??

You must understand – the vast majority of those who need help from the government etc. are actively trying to work, but they can’t get a job. No one wants to be in that situation, so >90% of people getting hand outs from the government are only thinking about trying to get a job.

  

Except when someone is exempt by law, you must search for work each week that you file a claim for benefits. If you do not search for work during a week in which you file a claim, benefits may be denied until you show that you have started looking for work.

The Hole Got Fixed said
So we agree? Cool!

That’s pretty much exactly what I said? People on benefits are looking for work – so why should we deny them benefits?

  

Some fancy footwork there…….5555.

Maybe explain my consternation over what you state and these figures……….?

If there are a million more jobs…….(a million more jobs) available than there are workers looking for jobs

……..Why can’t they find one? 

The Hole Got Fixed said
Could be for a myriad of reasons.

Lack of qualifications

Unable to travel the distance to said job

Type of work isn’t suited to the individual

 

It’s kinda like making suicide illegal, and when people keep committing suicide, wondering why people haven’t stopped committing suicide.

Sometimes there are other things that need to happen first, before you can throw jobs at people. 

 

Reveal Spoiler

Also, I’m assuming that my google search for ‘what does 5555 mean’ has returned the correct result: hahahaha, as 5 sounds like ha in Thai?

  

You’re right about 5555…

You watch….. you’ll all be doing it……555!

As for your myriad of reasons? I can go with all of those as being possible……Though  I feel it’s realistic to add that if someone really wants to get a job..That with a million more jobs on offer….. together, don’t forget, with the number of jobs on offer that equal the number of unemployed……I reckon someone who was seriously searching for a job could find one….

It’s a possibility isn’t it?……Surprised you omitted that one…Just a slip?

Never mind……’Get woke, go broke’ you’ll see..5555!

Cheers