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Girl scouts isn't as cool as boy scouts.

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Evangeline said

I was in Girl Scouts for 4 years and we sat inside and ate snacks and made home crafts. The most outdoorsy thing we did was to go outside and collect leaves for leaf shading.  

Yeah, this is pretty much what I was going to say. A big reason why girls want to join Boy Scouts is because Girl Scouts is (or at least sounds) pretty lame. Some feel that it reinforces dated stereotypes of what girls should do.

I guess that I don't feel too strongly either way, but I don't particularly have a problem with girls joining Boy Scouts. I've got no skin in this game. I quit Boy Scouts when I was eleven largely due to their policies on atheists and gays. (By the way, I am aware that the BSA have since changed their policies on gays).

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It's very interesting you said that because when boy scouts allowed homosexuals, my old troop disbanded because so many people left because of it, which is pretty messed up IMO but they're a very Christian organization so it's expected.

Anyways, you're right that girl scouts seems to really suck and is very feminine but the problem I have is that girls get an extra option over boys (and to a lesser extent fear that the boys and the girls will be separated within the boy scout troops making the whole change redundant and a complete waste of time). No matter how lame the option is I think boys and girls should have equal options.

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Dark Overlord said
It's very interesting you said that because when boy scouts allowed homosexuals, my old troop disbanded because so many people left because of it, which is pretty messed up IMO but they're a very Christian organization so it's expected.

Anyways, you're right that girl scouts seems to really suck and is very feminine but the problem I have is that girls get an extra option over boys (and to a lesser extent fear that the boys and the girls will be separated within the boy scout troops making the whole change redundant and a complete waste of time). No matter how lame the option is I think boys and girls should have equal options.  

There are a lot more options out there that aren't boy scouts or girl scouts. If you take all of those into consideration, then girls being able to be in one more thing really doesn't make a difference. 

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Little Piggy Dragonguy said

There are a lot more options out there that aren't boy scouts or girl scouts. If you take all of those into consideration, then girls being able to be in one more thing really doesn't make a difference.   

I agree. I went to sleep away summer camp for four weeks every year for seven years, and my outdoor skills and experience either matches or surpasses every boyscout I meet. 

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Is it okay to ever discriminate against someone solely because they have extreme views. This question came up to me after reading this article where someone successfully gets Richard Spencer banned from his gym solely because of his views. I hate Richard and his views but i think discriminating against people's beliefs, no matter how extreme they are, is wrong and it's not even like he brought up his opinions in the gym, he just went there to lift weights, he wasn't bothering anyone. I can understand the gym's POV how having the leader of the alt-right at their gym will make them lose members and also how people have the right to ban anyone they want for any reason but i still think that what the gym did was wrong.

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Dark Overlord said
Is it okay to ever discriminate against someone solely because they have extreme views. This question came up to me after reading this article where someone successfully gets Richard Spencer banned from his gym solely because of his views. I hate Richard and his views but i think discriminating against people's beliefs, no matter how extreme they are, is wrong and it's not even like he brought up his opinions in the gym, he just went there to lift weights, he wasn't bothering anyone. I can understand the gym's POV how having the leader of the alt-right at their gym will make them lose members and also how people have the right to ban anyone they want for any reason but i still think that what the gym did was wrong.  

Well, the club could allow him access, but assign a 300-lb. black Muslim bodybuilder to spot him while he's benchpressing...

All seriousness aside (as Steve Allen used to say), I think if it's a public gym it's illegal and he could sue them, but private clubs can do that.  However, more generally, the principle is that if we allow people to do that to people they don't agree with, who gets to define that?  Better to enshrine and protect the principle of free speech for all (other than direct incitement to violence).

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