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14 November 2017
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Strictly speaking, that may be so, but knowing things outside of your specific field of expertise is never a bad thing, and can sometimes contribute to your success in unforeseen ways. At the very least, though, it makes you a more well-rounded individual, and you won't look stupid when talking to someone who references a culturally well-known Shakespearean quote or something. As for history, well, history always needs to be taught. We all need to know where we came from and what mistakes have been made in the past so we can learn from them.

Plus, learning is good for your brain -- even if it's something you hate -- especially if it's something that doesn't come naturally to you.

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People dont know what they want. In your system, if they pick wrong they are screwed.

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Since everybody starts celebrating Christmas early here's a Christmas themed philosophy question.

What are your thoughts on what Kevin does to Harry and Marv in the Home Alone movies. Personally I think he went way to hard on the guys. All these people wanted to do was break into the McAllister house and steal their stuff, they had no intention on harming Kevin.

Now you may say that he was just defending himself but if he's smart enough to pull off all of these traps then surely he would be smart enough to leave something valuable on the ground and when they tried to pick the thing up a rope grabs them and ties them up.

Kevin was more than capable of doing so but he didn't, he wanted to make them suffer so he put some elaborate traps around the sound that caused severe injury and to be honest, some of these traps could've killed them such as when the guy sticks his head into a toilet filled with gasoline only for a lit match to touch him. Hell, in the 2nd movie the guys offer a peace offering, if Kevin had given them the camera they wouldn't enter the house but Kevin wanted them to suffer through all of his traps so instead he threw a brick on Marv's head, knocking him out temporarily.

This clearly isn't some kid who's trying to protect himself from robbers but rather a child genius who will grow up to be a psychopath, some claiming that he turns into Jigsaw.

Don't get me wrong, The Wet Bandits are bad guys and are also very stupid but that doesn't excuse what Kevin did to them, it reminds me of what Cartman does to Scott Tenorman in the South Park episode Scott Tenorman Must Die except Harry and Marv felt physical pain while Scott felt psychological pain. In both cases the antagonist does something wrong and the protagonist goes way too far to make it in his favor.

As for what sentences I would give everybody I would first take The Wet Bandits to the hospital because that's what good cops do to criminals who need to go there. After they got better I would give them a suspended sentence which means that you're good to go for now but if you commit any more crimes you're paying for this one in addition to that one. As for Kevin, I wouldn't put him in jail but I'd force him to have a psychological exam and I might temporarily place him in a mental hospital depending on the results of the exam. If they went through all of this and still did what they did in the 2nd movie the following year, they'd both go to jail, The Wet Bandits for home invasion and Kevin for vicious assault.

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It's America where in some States you shoot to kill and go buy yourself a burger, and no doubt only one successful vote away from if you've killed enough people claim your prize from the prize cabinet.  

It's also a fictional film. I don't get too hung up on the violence and ethical dilemmas in cartoons like 'Tom and Jerry' or 'Bugs Bunny's or whatever else. 

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Kevin McCallister needs to be locked up. He’s crazy and aggressive, acting in ways that go far beyond acceptable self defense and seem more like sadistic torture. 

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20 November 2017
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The bad guys were practically indestructible so he had to of used crazy techniques.

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I think Kevin is ok, i mean...you wanna enter my house and steal some stuff? ok, but you must pass a series of tests that prove you as the right thief to take my stuff. It's up to you whether you want to continue or not.

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28 November 2017
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What are your thoughts on political correctness. When I was younger I hated it and thought it ruined the fun for everybody but now that I am more of a liberal instead of a conservative I feel differently about it. At it's core, political correctness is about being nice to people and not hurting their feelings and I think that it's great to be politically correct sometimes, such as not calling certain people certain names. However, it's not without its flaws. For example, if you're hiring someone and there's 2 equally qualified people but 1 is a white man whereas the other one is a black woman it would be PC to hire the woman solely based on her race and gender which I believe would be a racist and sexist choice. In this case I believe choosing either one would be fine whereas choosing either one solely based on their gender, race, or sexuality would be wrong. The BBC even took this one step further by refusing to hire white people for a certain job. So overall I'm fine with political correctness but sometimes it gets out of hand and goes too far.

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I think that people often miss the point of it. 

I'll give you an example. I'm very much so into scientific skepticism. Once (I'm not sure how long ago it was), a skeptical page on Facebook promoted content from a female science blogger with the word "chick" in the pen name (I don't remember which one specifically, as there is more than one). Somebody in the comments section took issue with the fact that she used the un-PC term chick.  She chose to call herself that. Nobody forced her.

Political correctness is supposed to make individual people feel comfortable. It's not designed to be hard-and-fast rules that require no thought. If you are comfortable with and would prefer to be called something non-PC, then I'll gladly do it. I might cringe while doing it, but I'll do it nonetheless. Just call people what they want to be called. 

On the whole, I'm fine with it, but I wish that people would not lose sight of its true purpose. 

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It is basically not being a jerk to people at its core.

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It seems that most of the topics I've brought up in this thread don't affect me, issues like abortion and feminism are fun to discuss but they don't affect me so I thought today since I have at least 10 ideas of things to put in this thread and have put so many ideas in this thread already that you can call this thread something like Dark Overlord's philosophy thread that I'd do an issue that affects me.

Do you think adults should be able to have friendly and not sexual relationships with minors. I think it's perfectly fine as long as the relationship isn't sexual, if an 18 year old man has a 11 year old friend and the relationship is friendly, not sexual, than I'm all for it, the 18 year old clearly isn't a pedophile because he wants to have a friendly relationship but knows that having sex with the minor is wrong and isn't even aroused by the minor and just wants to be friends. Sadly, the 18 year old will be told that he could end up in jail because they'll think he's a pedophile, a stereotype that he hates, so he discouraged from being friends from hanging out with this kid by his parents and many other people in fear of getting arrested although the 18 year old would really like to hang out with the 11 year old some day.

If you're wondering why I said this affects me, it's because the above statement is a true statement about me and my 11 year old friend who I'm discouraged from seeing because I'm scared that I will end up in jail even though I clearly don't want to have sex with him because that's wrong and messed up. It'd be cool to take him to the mall or Chuck E. Cheeses or somewhere fun where an 11 year old would like to go but because of the stereotype that all men who hang around with boys are pedophiles, I don't in fear of prison time and to a lesser extent the parents reacting negatively to the friendship.

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That is find to have inter-generational fans.

Also Abortion and feminism can affect you. Especially the latter.

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Necko said

[...On the whole, I'm fine with it, but I wish that people would not lose sight of its true purpose].   

Starr Shine? said
It is basically not being a jerk to people at its core.  

But who decides what it's true purpose is or what constitutes being a jerk? I don't believe that political correctness is wholly benevolent. Often, it seems a gagging order. Most countries have  guidelines or laws regarding hate speech, libel or defamation, which protects us. But an inoffensive world where people are afraid to speak for fear of causing offense would be completely boring and dull. 

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If someone says, "I'd like to be called B" it is political correct to call them B and not A, X, Q, R or T regardless of your own beliefs.

You can still say things about issues but don't impose your beliefs onto others.

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Starr Shine? said
Also Abortion and feminism can affect you. Especially the latter.

Good point, there's the whole taxpayer funded abortions thing (which I think is messed up IMO) and some feminists are trying to or have done things that affect men and those things could affect me, although it doesn't affect me nearly as much as being able to have a non sexual relationship with a minor does so I should've said that it doesn't affect me as much. Thanks for pointing that out.

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I don't think an adult having a platonic friendship with a kid is wrong. I'm pretty close with a few of my kid cousins. But if an adult were to be actively seeking out kids to befriend, I think that would be a little creepy (even if it was a platonic relationship). I definitely wouldn't let my eleven year old hang out with an eighteen year old I didn't know, though. If they had good intentions it wouldn't matter because I wouldn't know that. 

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What are your thoughts on cultural appropriation. Personally, I think it's racist to tell people of certain races that they can't do certain things that are part of another race's culture. For example, I see nothing wrong with a black guy wearing a Native American costume or a Chinese person wearing a kilt or a white person sharing Michael Jackson GIFs on the internet. In fact, I love the idea of mixing various cultures together because I think it shows racial equality because if any race can do any thing related to any race, then there's no racism to be had. I can understand why people would want to have this but calm down, let people do their own thing regardless of their race.

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It depends. I’m fine with combining cultures and appropriating to promote exploration and acceptance of other cultures, but if it crosses a line such as a sacred Indian garb or ritual, I think it is best to hold off on dressing up as that person until one gets does more research on the implications. 

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For example, I see nothing wrong with a black guy wearing a Native American costume

That is the problem. The cultures (since there are many Native Americans cultures) are all condensed into a holier costume that others put on like a witch, devil or Cowboy.

People can wear outfits and engage in stuff found more often in another but it should be done with respect to the original culture

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I wish to comment on two controversial subjects that @Dark Overlord has brought up and often alludes to, the age of consent and incest. I want to offer a personal testimony, which is phrased very carefully, does contain details that may disturb, and I recommend caution.

I was sexually abused as a child by my father.

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It was the secret that couldn't be told. What happened to me happens to millions. I did what Daddy told me to do, just I always had done. There was not, and could not be, any hint of informed consent, just a child doing what their parent, who they are told to trust more than anyone else, has asked them to do. And keep secret, because it's special.

So special that it has left me with mental health problems, several suicide attempts, an incredible awkwardness in social situations which makes trust and friendship the hardest thing.

I only ever had the balls to confront him about it once, he told me if I was a real man I would have stopped him, that he was making me into the real man that could stop him. I asked him how old I was when it began, as I always remembered it, and hating it. He told me he had shown me how to... when I was four.

My life, and my ability to conduct relationships with other people to make it a life, was destroyed by whatever that man had me do when I was four. How could that be consented to by me?

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