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We Can Work It Out - Politics & Philosophy
23 June 2017
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I disagree. I think that many people, if not the majority, chose/will choose their sexuality. They might have influences, but that doesn’t mean they’re forced. 

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It’s hard to say for sure but I believe that sexuality is an urge, whether it be towards people of the same or opposite sex but I also believe that it can be toyed with. For example, if you are a straight male and I locked you up in a room with 3 homosexuals, there’s a chance that you would become gay or at least bisexual.

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People aren’t made to be homosexual. 

Sorry, but some people are. To turn around and say that nobody is naturally homosexual, which that statement effectively does, is to label those who are homosexual as making a deviant lifestyle choice instead of that being just who they are. Everybody has their own sexuality, and it’s rarely a choice.  

That wasn’t what I meant. I was referring to Dark Overlord who said that people are made homosexual in prison which is untrue. Made by a person. Poor phrasing on my end tbh.

They are born that way. People don’t wake up and choose their attractions.

Though to the people who disagree, when did you choose your sexual attractions and why? What made you decided to be attracted to the group of people you are?

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8(I did say i’m most likely asexual in the 9 random facts thread, so I should answer that question, even though I’m only sleeping 90% sure)

I realised one day that I’m not really attracted to girls, and I’m not muc hmore attracted to boys, so using power of deduction, I think I’m asexual. Nobody forced me to be asexual (in fact, my entire family pretty much are presuming I’m heterosexual), it was completely natural.

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I thought that I’d recap some of the stuff we’ve talked about in this thread, mainly for users like Martha and Flyingbrains who weren’t here when the thread started who might want to give out their own opinions on this stuff, so here’s a list of all the topics we’ve talked about as well as my stance on each of them.


Donald Trump:

He’s an old man with the mind of a 10 year old.

Superiority complexes:

I got nothing.

Age of consent:

16.

Dream utopia:

A hard question, there are many that I would be perfectly fine with.

Abortion:

I think that it’s wrong and should be outlawed.

Incest:

Fine by me, as long as both parties consent and it isn’t pedophilic.

Religion and Christianity:

I believe that God is fake and that the stories of the bible are fictional stories rather than things that really happened and even if he were real, he doesn’t seem like the nicest person, especially to the people who deny his existence.

What should happen to your corpse after you die:

Try removing body parts and placing them on people who need them, similar to using a broken computer for parts. If that doesn’t work, feed them to vultures, lions, and other animals who like to eat people. As for what I’d do if I found a dead person, I would steal all of their belongings, such as their wallet and clothes and walk away because as

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They can’t do anything with it once their dead.

Self evident truths of the world:

I got nothing.

Conspiracy theories that are too big to prove wrong:

I got nothing.

Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton:

I think both of them are mentally incapable of running a country but due to our stupid 2 party system, I prefer Trump.

Last Thursdayism:

I got nothing.

Military:

I think that people should use peace and love instead of killing others but what has to happen must happen.

Should non-Christians be able to celebrate Christian holidays:

I don’t see why not, it’s not like Jesus was actually born on Christmas or that Jesus actually died on the cross on Easter.

Peanut free schools:

It pisses me off that they would even do this, especially considering that there are other life threatening allergies that people have such as to dairy.

Natalist or Anti-Natalist:

I got nothing.

Drinking age:

18.

Tell me some facts about reality that you did not get from the media:

There are some schools where they allow teachers to restrain students for non-violent acts, even in America.

Legalization of drugs:

Sounds like a good idea because people will get their drugs safer than if they were illegal.

Self defense:

I don’t have a problem with it, whether it be hit for hit or lethal, as long as you’re not hitting children.

Language death:

This may sound wrong but I actually like this because I want English to be the 1st language of every country in the world.

Modern day feminism:

I’m fine with women having their rights, but I don’t like MDF, mainly because it seems to be giving women the upper hand rather than making men and women equal.

What is your religion and your thoughts on the afterlife:

I practice self-religion, as in I made up my own religion. I believe that when you die, you will be transported back to the womb at the point of conception at the same time (for example, when I die, I will return to June 1998 back in my mother’s womb) and you will live a slightly different life every time this happens, it might be better or worse than the last.

Thoughts on other religions:

I don’t believe in them but I don’t have a problem with them.

Death of Osama Bin Laden:

They shouldn’t’ve killed him because he was unarmed.

Bill Cosby going to jail:

I think they should either drop the charges or place him in a mental institution because if he was sent to prison, he’d be beat up, raped, and stabbed.

Partial birth abortion:

I hate it even worse than abortion.

Environmentally friendly:

I don’t mind it but at the same time, I think people go too far with this.

Bringing mammoths back:

I’ll pass.

Death row:

I don’t have a problem with it because some people would rather die than spend their life in prison. However, I think paroleless life sentences and death row should be avoided.

Vigilantes:

They often go too far.

Porn:

I think it’s ok, as long as they are consenting adults and it doesn’t prevent you from having sex with your significant other.

The word retarded:

I don’t have a problem with it being used to refer to someone with such a medical condition although ever since reading mmm’s post, I’ve held back on using that word in real life.

There’s also another reason I did this, so we can view all of this stuff without spending an hour searching through 31 pages like I just did.  

Let HMBeatlesfan remain buried @Dark Overlord. It’s not very clever bringing up past mistakes on the forum and reminding us of them.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8(I did say i’m most likely asexual in the 9 random facts thread, so I should answer that question, even though I’m only sleeping 90% sure)

I realised one day that I’m not really attracted to girls, and I’m not muc hmore attracted to boys, so using power of deduction, I think I’m asexual. Nobody forced me to be asexual (in fact, my entire family pretty much are presuming I’m heterosexual), it was completely natural.  

Note that this was a realization and not a choice which is a big difference. Realizing what you are isn’t choosing what you are like realizing a room you walk into has panted walls but not painting the walls yourself.

This applies to sexual attractions and the lack of them.

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24 June 2017
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@Starr Shine? did you come up with the painted walls analogy? That is a brilliant way of putting it. 

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Yes.

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I thought I’d do a new topic on something that’s a little more kid friendly to discuss than other things that have been brought up in this thread:

What’s your opinion on taxes, I personally dislike them because it’s extra money that you have to pay although I understand that bad things could happen without them.

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What would you replace taxes with?

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Do you believe JFK’s assassination was legitimate or a conspiracy?

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Do you believe JFK’s assassination was legitimate or a conspiracy?

No I don’t believe that it was a conspiracy. I can’t see how anybody/group would want him dead as part of a conspiracy, particularly the likes of the CIA and security services.

In general I don’t subscribe to conspiracy theories at all, especially the JFK and 9/11 ones.

At a push I might follow the whole New World Order idea but I still think it’s far-fetched.blue-meanie

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Although I think that conspiracy theories are fun to read about, I typically don’t believe in them, so I’m siding with Flyingbrains here.

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The Hole Got Fixed said
Do you believe JFK’s assassination was legitimate or a conspiracy?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?…..7rpXQY  

Yeah. The special investigation team was constantly being told to end the investigation by government officials. Lee Harvey Oswald probably killed him, but I believe there was some sort of government cover up. 

I don’t however believe in any 9/11 related conspiracies or any of the Jews/Aliens control the entire world theories. However, big banks are a problem that have massive influence on national governments. 

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About the magic bullet, there is a game where you become Lee and can shoot JFK, the shots he took are possible with a solo guy.

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About the magic bullet, there is a game where you become Lee and can shoot JFK, the shots he took are possible with a solo guy.  

That’s kind of a fucked up game. 

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I always feel so sorry for Jackie watching that clip, what a horrifying thing to have to witness.

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Only just realised that With the Beatles was released in the UK the day before JFK was assassinated…

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I don’t believe in any conspiracy theories. 

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Only just realised that With the Beatles was released in the UK the day before JFK was assassinated…  

Then the next day the first episode of Doctor Who aired.

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