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12.06pm
27 February 2017
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Starr Shine? said
It might be more how it is presented then what it is.There are some arguments both for and against modern feminism that can be made.
If you want to make an argument about this subject, you can and I’ll try and hear you out.
I find there is a problem now a days with echo chambers where people seek and stick themselfs only in places that parrot what they already think.
I would agree on that one since I too find myself guilty of it sometimes due to lacking confidence. Seeing that no one has posted anything on the last discussion for quite a while, I will ask a new question.
Do you think mathematics was invented or discovered by human beings? Personally, I go for the latter because I believe mathematics is something like an extra dimension that exists apart from the human brain.
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I say invented.
There probably was some cavemen who wanted to keep count of thier supplies and came up with basic adition and subtraction to keep track of how many arrows they have or how many berries they picked.
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1.07pm
27 February 2017
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I say invented.There probably was some cavemen who wanted to keep count of thier supplies and came up with basic adition and subtraction to keep track of how many arrows they have or how many berries they picked.
Of course, that’s what happened. But what I am fascinated by the fact that different cultures which could not have possibly known each other came up with the same basic system of rules. Even more sophisticated achievements than counting, like the Pythagorean theorem, were made independently by lots of cultures.
Therefore, I wonder whether the reason why humans all began counting, addition, and subtraction and have a notion of numbers in general which they find very intuitive is because it really is intuitive. And if something is intuitive it somehow has to exist apart from our mind. Or am I concluding prematurely?
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1.10pm
1 November 2013
Offline It could be that it acts the same everywhere on the planet and so people come to the same conclusion with the same acting objects.
People all over the world will make the same constellations .
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17 December 2012
Offline I believe it is a combination of invention and discovery.
The invention is the language of maths, whether that be the creation of numbers or more complicated ideas such as gravity.
That societies came upon common solutions, such as using base 10 for everyday maths, is not surprising – we have, usually, ten digits on our hands.
I doubt that you would find many theoretical mathematicians who would say they are inventing the ideas they come up, but rather they are discovering explanations for things that have always been there.
The tides come in daily at predictable times. This can all be explained and calculated using maths. However, it is something that has happened since the birth of the oceans.
It should be pointed out that people all over the world did not come up with the same constellations, by the way. Many ancient astronomers came up with their own lists of constellations. Greek astronomers Hipparchus and Ptolemy came up with the 12 constellations used by European-based cultures, while – as an example – Chinese astronomers came up with 255 constellations, many of which had only one star, and few of which had more than half a dozen.
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2.40pm
1 November 2013
Offline I mean shape. Several culutres have ursa major like constalation in some capasity.
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17 December 2012
Offline **No, not even shape. You would be hard pressed to find any constellation in the Chinese charts that matched the shape and involved the same stars as found in the European charts. They might come up with similar shapes but in completely different areas of the sky involving completely objects. That there are common symbols found in most lists simply shows that many societies placed a similar importance to certain objects and ideas which they elevated into the heavens.
Ursa Major is about the only constellation that exists in some form in most constellation charts, but that has much to do with it’s use in navigation and its relation to Polaris.
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3.58pm
1 November 2013
Offline It’s more ursa minor that is the main navigation constellation.
It is more the shape of Ursa Major that makes it in labeled around the world
Orion gets the same treatment.
11.09am
27 February 2017
Offline Earlier this day I had a kind of insight. The language we use and learn ( I don’t just mean English, Italian, German,… but also the slang and dialect) represents the categories in which we think through different terms which stand for different concepts. So the language influences our way of thinking and hence also our opinion and in the end our moral values. Therefore, the conclusion would be that the language we learn has an impact on our personality right from the beginning. Does this make sense?
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12.43pm
1 November 2013
Offline I headed Language equals thought was disproven.
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27 November 2016
Offline I recall hearing about a scientific study that proved that a couple of years ago. You need to become a scientist!
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27 February 2017
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I headed Language equals thought was disproven.
I’m sorry to bother you but what does ‘headed’ mean in this context? I don’t know exactly what you mean.
The Hole Got Fixed said
I recall hearing about a scientific study that proved that a couple of years ago. You need to become a scientist!
Thanks, that’s my plan actually!
Do you still know who carried out this study?
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27 February 2017
Offline Ok, yes I agree. I don’t think your thoughts are only words, there are always images and sounds as well. But still, language plays a big role in our thoughts and at least influences the categories we think in.
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4.59pm
1 November 2013
Offline You might find the Sapir–Whorf hypothesis interesting. Along with New Speak.
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27 November 2016
Offline Martha said
The Hole Got Fixed said
I recall hearing about a scientific study that proved that a couple of years ago. You need to become a scientist!Thanks, that’s my plan actually!
Do you still know who carried out this study?
Cool career plan!
I don’t know about who performed it, sorry. As I have a music excursion today, I won’t be able to look it up for at least another 7 hours, sorry. 
I’ll look it up when I get home, though.
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5.29pm
27 February 2017
Offline No problem, @The Hole Got Fixed since I will sleep in the next hours
, well at least after I have finished the article about the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis which sounds really interesting. Enjoy the excursion and thanks again!!!
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27 November 2016
Offline Here we go, @Martha : this article was the one I read. It combines many studies.
Hope this helps!
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1.27am
27 February 2017
Offline Thanks a lot @The Hole Got Fixed 
! The article was really interesting and funny written. I especially liked the example with the ethical question about the antidote. It is always surprising how simply putting a question in other words can change the answer.
The recommendation of thinking about a problem in another language to solve it was great, too, I will definitely make use of it in the future!
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9.30pm
10 March 2017
Offline You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to, but what is your religion, what do you believe in?
For me, despite growing up in a devout protestant family, I believe in self-religion, that is I believe that we are all equals and when you die, you restart at the beginning of you life. For example, when I die, I will come back in 1999 as a baby again and have another chance at my life with all of the memories of my past life wiped. Think of each life as a chance to do something with yourself and think of eternity as an extended version of Groundhog Day.
If you're reading this, you are looking for something to do.
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