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26 September 2019
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Thank you but I have to admit the honesty story isn't actually true......It's just a stereotypical depiction of how old people can get.

The ugly thing might be true, except we never had a dog.......However beauty is in the eye of the beholder 555!

Though these days ......I only look in mirrors at the barbers and I often sit there helplessly compelled to wonder who is that? I still feel so young behind the eyes .......The truth should always trump feelings.

Anyway..... As far as I can tell you're still young.....You're talented, and you know your own mind.....I'm only one of those things.........(I think)..5555

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Airline flash sales the week after I bought tickets to the Philippines.

And now they are HALF price blue-meanie

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^ Ouch!

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Ahhh Girl said
^ Ouch!

  

And I get the ads here every time I visit just to remind me ...

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When they ask for your gender/race on a job application. It's so stupid because the only way they can discriminate against you based on gender/race before having an interview is by asking what gender/race you are on the application. Fortunately, they typically give you a refuse to say option (which i always use) but even then, selecting that option could imply that you're not the right gender/race for the job.

No one should use gender or race as a determinate of whether or not they deserve the job and doing so is as stupid and bigoted as hiring a fry cook based on how well he can play the piano.

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I'm wondering what purpose that question might serve to justify its inclusion on a job application form. I suppose they are trying to get an idea of what kind of person they are dealing with, and gender/race might well be a part of that. I think gender seems more relevant than race, though. I'd rather we were all colourblind. ahdn_george_01

As a mixed-race individual I have fun with [check all that apply] race forms; I never check less than three, including [other]. a-hard-days-night-john-6

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^I'd reckon it's for quotas, ensuring they're bringing as close to 50-50 (in gender for example) to 2nd round of applications. Also, gives them a general idea of what type of person is attracted to their company.

 

Someday, someone will play the "THEY DIDN'T INTERVIEW ME BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN" card and they'll quickly retract the gender/race question, it's just asking for trouble.

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I can understand why they have quotas, but they’re a pretty dumb way to ensure relative equality. I’d rather they weren’t necessary.

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The irony here is that while it's typically used to force equality (or to hire as few white men as possible), a white supremacist can use it to only hire white men.

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The irony here is that while it's typically used to force equality (or to hire as few white men as possible), a white supremacist can use it to only hire white men.

  

Surely a white supremacist would want a balance of white men and white females* so they could continue the certainty of the "uncontaminated" white race for future generations? 

 

*I used to enjoy lurking on white supremacy forums back in the day because I found them hilarious, bunch of incels who couldn't get a girl to go out with them so would rant and rave about these imaginary black guys "polluting" the white race. Of course, no girl would want to come within 10 feet of them probably because the last time they had a meeting with a shower was when Bush was still president (which one? you decide!) but of course it's the black guys' and the females' fault. Right, right?!?!!?

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Yeah but white supremacists are also typically chauvinistic misogynists who think women belong in the kitchen because they're too stupid and weak to have a man's job.

Also, it's not just blacks they hate, they hate everyone who isn't a straight cisgendered able bodied masculine man (or feminine woman) of Germanic descent who's willing to conform to their social standards.

Since we're on the topic:

I really hate when white supremacists suggest that the US should be a white ethnostate. Even if they turned a Germanic country like England into a white ethnostate, it'd be stupid and wrong but this isn't the case at all. A true American has reddish-brown skin and descends from Siberia, so these people are advocating for making a country that doesn't belong to them (in fact, one they stole) theirs.

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I think quotas are really dumb but that's a topic for another thread... a-hard-days-night-john-6

On a lighter note (I clicked into this thread and went 'Whoops how did we get to white supremacists so fast?! a-hard-days-night-paul-4') my pet peeve is when you get to that stage where you're done being sick but you still have to clear all that.... STUFF.... out of your sinuses and lungses and things. a-hard-days-night-paul-3 COFF COFF.

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Bringing the subject back to white supremacists because you know why not?..... >.>

 

I used to laugh at the Irish subforum on their website. The Irish were treated internationally like dirt until the 20th century because there was (and maybe is ) an image of alcoholic, brutish, boisterous, stupid peasants who were too Catholic and had too many children. 

 

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If they did find themselves teleported back to the 'glory days' pre-Emancipation Declaration, they'd be hated. Also, the fact that the Irish have the highest incidence of Cystic Fibrosis in the world (with 1 in 19 being carriers- not so fun fact. All hail living on an incredibly isolated island nation for thousands of years!), surely a bit of non-Irish mixing is genetically a good thing?

 

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World record for how many posts in a conversation it takes to reach the topic of white supremacism? a-hard-days-night-john-6But yes, they are the absolute worst. Most of them seem to be just lonely men who don't have much of an identity or future and have no luck with women, so they end up turning to misogyny and racial hatred (mostly based on the belief that they are being 'cucked' by men of different ethnicities) rather than doing anything to improve their own situation.

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Well the way you all keep bringing it up, you'd think ye were white supremacists. 

 

It's white supremacy this, white supremacy that, blah blah.

 

May I remind you all this is a Beatles forum and we are to conduct ourselves in a most dignified manner and have good hygiene!

We have one of those achieved now can we please focus on the other.

Thank you.

 

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8A respectable pet peeve - All You Need Is Love , and love has no room for that nonsenseheartheart

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I think it's all nonsense.  If they want equality, they should just hire everyone based soley on their ability to do the job.  That way all the numbers of race and gender and stuff will fall into place ratio wise...or maybe not, but it doesn't matter because they were all hired equally, and their race and stuff had nothing to do with it.

As for answering the question on job applications, I'll put my gender, but I never put my race.  Most of them have a "prefer not to disclose" option.  My race has nothing to do with how well I flip burgers.

New Pet Peeve, new records with the pinhole too small to fit on the peg.  It's usually due to some sort of manufacturing error, I suppose.  A letter opener does a good job fixing it, but I shouldn't have to fix it.

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I'm kind of mixed. Typically, I prefer other methods of helping out vulnerable communities (such as investing more resources in majority black communities) but that's harder to do for say, LGBT people or women. 

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